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WHAT? Renee Ellmers Claims She Has ‘Same Immigration Stance as Cruz, Paul, Lee’ (Loses Straw Poll)
PJ Media ^ | March 21, 2014 | David Steinberg

Posted on 03/22/2014 4:53:34 PM PDT by PJ-Comix

Last Saturday, Renee Ellmers (R-NC02) — a 2010 Tea Party favorite who has since lost the support of conservatives — gave a brief speech to the Moore County, North Carolina GOP Convention. During the speech, she claimed to hold the same views on immigration as Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Rand Paul, and even Dr. Ben Carson.

This statement came a few days after Ellmers’ tendentious appearance with Laura Ingraham last week — an interview that might have progressed smoothly had Ellmers actually expressed the same views on immigration as those four.

Ellmers’ brief speech in Moore County offered no specification backing her claim, did not address how the statement was at odds with her recent appearance with Laura Ingraham, and was given seemingly without considering that someone would reach out to one of those four for comment.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; reneeellmers; rino
Following Ellmers’ speech, the convention attendees proceeded to select her opponent Frank Roche two-to-one in the straw poll. A terrible showing, especially considering she is the two term incumbent, and this was a GOP convention, not a Tea Party gathering.

In some recent videos of her, Ellmers sounds like she has gone over the edge MENTAL.

1 posted on 03/22/2014 4:53:34 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: PJ-Comix; Impy; AuH2ORepublican; MitchellC; JohnnyZ; BillyBoy

Is there some hope to bounce her in the primary ? Her sole opponent, Frank Roche, has only $2,695 in the bank, while Ellmers has almost $600,000. We can’t beat incumbents with no bucks.


2 posted on 03/22/2014 5:08:14 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: PJ-Comix

The duplicitous, lying snake of a sell-out that Renee Elmers has become needs to be voted out of office. She’s become a John Boehner puppet and needs to go!

I’d encourage anyone in a position to do so to support Frank Roche, her Tea Party opponent in the primary. He’ll stick with his Tea Party values and not lose his integrity as Renee Elmers clearly has in the corrupting pit that is Washington DC.

http://frankrocheforcongress.com/


3 posted on 03/22/2014 5:10:28 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“Is there some hope to bounce her in the primary ? Her sole opponent, Frank Roche, has only $2,695 in the bank, while Ellmers has almost $600,000. We can’t beat incumbents with no bucks.”
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There is an OUTSTANDING possibility of defeating her in the primary. Frank Roche is rapidly gaining support and the despicable Renee Elmers is rapidly hemorrhaging support.

In regard to your last sentence-—we can’t beat incumbents or anyone else if we are filled with DEFEATISM. I’d encourage ALL FReepers to not allow anyone to inject you with the disease of Defeatism.


4 posted on 03/22/2014 5:14:32 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: PJ-Comix

great job Laura. The argument from us should be we espouse a comprehensive guest worker program. And then ask the sen/conress/ah the question: why doesn’t our guest worker/ farm worker programs work. this is the heart of the issue not the talking points. Immigration law is fine. (except big business wants cheaper labor) I liked Laura saying that if you can’t operate a business in the us within present law then you should not be in business. Problem is there are so many regulations it make it hard on any business. The killer for the demorat talking point that our immagration law is unenforcable is “ senator - congressman: why did you pass the current law. And what makes you think that the next law will be enforcable. since most laws aren’t being enforced now.


5 posted on 03/22/2014 5:15:40 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

And there is clearly more where that $600K came from; the Koch brothers are passing money out like crazy to the Amnesty RINO’s.


6 posted on 03/22/2014 5:16:19 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: House Atreides

Ellmers sounds like she is in a midst of a mental meltdown. In recent videos she sounds like she has lost control of herself. I mean like looney toons mental. No joke.


7 posted on 03/22/2014 5:17:01 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (ObamaCare unsubsidized PAID Enrollment Prediction: 66,666)
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To: House Atreides

Ellmers sounds like she is in a midst of a mental meltdown. In recent videos she sounds like she has lost control of herself. I mean like looney toons mental. No joke.


8 posted on 03/22/2014 5:17:01 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (ObamaCare unsubsidized PAID Enrollment Prediction: 66,666)
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To: PJ-Comix

“The system is broken’ “those living in the shadows” “when Hillary Clinton is president”
It was difficult to listen to this sell-out spewing the Republicrat party line:
`She offered her honor,
They honored her offer.
So, for two long years—
It was on her and off her.’


9 posted on 03/22/2014 5:27:05 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: House Atreides

i sent him 100 buck but i’ll look for somewhere on his website to post my comments


10 posted on 03/22/2014 5:27:21 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: House Atreides

It has nothing to do with defeatism, it has to do with reality. Candidates need money, especially federal candidates, and lots of it. It’s hard enough to beat incumbents, even harder when you have no money. There have been instances where candidates badly outspent have won, but they tend to be rare. You need money to get out a message and signal to others you’re serious about winning. If Roche was closer to $150 or $300k, I’d regard him more of a serious candidate. With $2,695, it’s hard to consider him more than desultory opposition.

If you need an example, look at Katrina Pierson against Pete Sessions in TX-32. She was well regarded by the grassroots and Tea Partiers. She also had no money. She lost by a wide margin. We have the same problem with Lamar!’s opponent here in Tennessee for Senator. Very little money.


11 posted on 03/22/2014 5:29:09 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: PJ-Comix
Oh, fine!!! Let Republicans destroy their own!

Now, is anybody watching as Aitken and Crisco vie for unseating her and getting that seat back into the Democrat column where it was with Bob Etheridge?

12 posted on 03/22/2014 6:00:02 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: PJ-Comix; Lazamataz
Laz would hit that. Hittable: Gooogle.
13 posted on 03/22/2014 6:03:12 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: loveliberty2

Anyone who believes that immigration capitulation should be taken up by the House deserves to be defeated. Bob


14 posted on 03/22/2014 6:18:01 PM PDT by alstewartfan (Two broken Tigers on fire in the night Flicker their souls to the wind. From RTMoscow by Al Stewart)
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To: loveliberty2; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; Clintonfatigued; randita

The seat as currently drawn is pretty much safe Republican, 57% Romney. No rat will win under normal conditions, especially some dipstick like Aiken, I doubt he’ll win their primary though.

But I agree with FMDJ, if Elmer’s primary challenger only has a few k he has very little chance of beating her. He can win a straw poll of hardcore activists who are probably fans of his radio show, but that doesn’t speak to his ability to reach the primary electorate at large.

Anyway, Elmers was a come out of nowhere self-proclaimed “tea party candidate”. If she’s indeed going off the reservation that speaks to the dangers of electing just anyone who happens to talk a good game. Words are cheap.


15 posted on 03/22/2014 6:27:59 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Well, you certainly have down pat the arguments used by defenders of incumbent RINOs and put out by the League of RINO Protectors.

As for me, I’ll stand and work with those who believe in Constitutional values and are not puppets of the GOPe eager to have waves upon waves of 10 Million Illegal Aliens. And believe me, the current Amnesty being surreptitiously pushed will be followed by others later—and Renee Ellmers will be feathering her personal nest.


16 posted on 03/22/2014 6:32:57 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: House Atreides

Did I say I supported Ellmers ? Did I say I supported any liberal RINO or any pro-Amnesty fraud ? My point has nothing to do with Ellmers.

This is the one basic necessity that goes for ANY person running for Congress today: the main tool you need in order to win office is MONEY. If you don’t have it, you can virtually dismiss any candidate out of hand. It doesn’t matter if you don’t like that, it’s simply how it is.

If you think that’s some sort of “RINO talking point”, you’re being incredibly naïve.


17 posted on 03/22/2014 6:54:39 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Impy

Apparently I’m being called a RINO/shill for Ellmers for pointing out that having no money will keep you from winning.

I remember when the late FReeper Congressman Billybob declared his run for Congress against Heath Shuler. I told him he needed to raise between $500k to $1 million to mount a credible challenge. I’m sure he wasn’t happy about that.


18 posted on 03/22/2014 7:01:47 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: House Atreides
Endorsements for Frank Roche:
Ann Coulter Laura Ingraham, ConservativeHQ, ALIPAC, Conservative Party, U.S. Immigration Reform PAC, Glen Bradley, USMC Ret
19 posted on 03/22/2014 7:08:45 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: fieldmarshaldj

There is no arguing with people who back the extreme longshots and pretend that they can win. It’s like they believe in magic, evidence doesn’t matter. “The grassroots” can do anything with nothing but moxie and a couple cups of coffee.

None of them seem to grasp that a candidate needs to have name recognition, which usually must be bought with advertisement.

One particular freeper often backs such candidates and when I say “few voters have ever heard of him” he disagrees, because the fellow activists he hangs out with have heard of them. That most primary voters are not activists is another thing they don’t grasp.


20 posted on 03/22/2014 7:20:47 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy

Yeah. I mean, I was backing Pierson in Texas. When I saw her fundraising numbers, I knew it was going to be almost impossible to overcome Sessions. What’s the alternative ? Giving all candidates the same amount of money ?


21 posted on 03/22/2014 7:24:26 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: FredZarguna
the Koch brothers are passing money out like crazy to the Amnesty RINO’s

I sure wasn't aware of this. Got a link for this? Thanks.

22 posted on 03/22/2014 7:31:04 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: FR_addict

Endorsements for Frank Roche:
Ann Coulter Laura Ingraham, ConservativeHQ, ALIPAC, Conservative Party, U.S. Immigration Reform PAC, Glen Bradley, USMC Ret

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Here another one to add to your list:

http://www.redstate.com/diary/spoasteph97/2014/02/01/frank-roche-for-congress-2014-nc02/


23 posted on 03/22/2014 7:44:12 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Jane Long
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/05/10/Koch-Sponsors-Pro-Amnesty-BuzzFeed-Event

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jzVx8QTGJU

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2013/05/the-pro-amnesty-cheap-labor-koch-bros.html

http://www.nhteapartycoalition.org/tea/2014/01/24/are-you-unwittingly-supporting-pro-amnesty-groups/

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/02/us/politics/gop-groups-offering-cover-for-lawmakers-on-immigration.html?_r=0

Also Google the amount of money spent in Talk Radio in 2013 by Americans for Prosperity and other front groups funded by billionaires who want cheap labor; The Koch brothers, Bill Gates and Soros are all in bed together on this, among many. They spent $100 million on ad-buys in 2013 to influence Rush, Hannity, and Beck fans. They got ... Bupkis.

People have been puzzled about why Scott Walker and Marco Rubio have ruined their chances in 2016 with pro-Amnesty positions. Answer: both get funding and media help from the Koch Brothers. Follow the money.

24 posted on 03/22/2014 7:54:01 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: PJ-Comix

Ellmers is a liar and all too willing to roll over for the DC elite....time for a true conservative


25 posted on 03/22/2014 7:55:27 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: PJ-Comix

fool me once shame on you. fool me twice? shame on me.


26 posted on 03/22/2014 8:06:46 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: FredZarguna

Thanks for the links. Koch’s support of amnesty stinks!


27 posted on 03/22/2014 8:27:23 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Impy

“Money talks and BS walks.” This is an exact quote of a statement directed to me from a head of a Tea Party group.

I think about the many times that Obama tweeted out that he needed money to defeat those rascally Republicans, and millions of people picked up their Obama-phones and texted $1-$2 to Obama to get the job done. Now $1-$2 may not seem like a lot of money, but when multiplied by a million or more people it becomes a political goldmine.

There are slightly more than 4,000,000 (yes, 4-million) people who claim to be Tea Party supporters, or working to forward conservative causes, on the internet. The sad bottom line is that almost -0- respond to Tea Party and/or Constitutional Conservative candidates with anything beyond a multitude of “likes” and positive comments. If each one donated even $1 (yes, one single dollar) to each truly conservative, Constitutional conservative, and Tea Party candidate, there is little if any reason that each and every candidate couldn’t build their campaign with a $1-million or more warchest, which would alter the current direction of our country and change the face of American politics. However, until and unless we who call ourselves “Tea Party” and “conservative” put our money where our mouth is, we will continue to be irrelevant in the overall political arena.


28 posted on 03/22/2014 8:34:32 PM PDT by LTC.Ret (You'd think I would know better than to volunteer!!! www.sendmetocongress.us)
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To: PJ-Comix

Cruz and Paul have very different opinions on that


29 posted on 03/22/2014 8:36:52 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: PJ-Comix

all anybody has to do is go to Ellmers web site and see for themselves, her own words betray her.

http://ellmers.house.gov/latest-news/how-do-you-solve-a-problem-like-immigration1/

grab it before it’s gone


30 posted on 03/22/2014 10:26:48 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama ----> Fredo smart)
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To: Impy; loveliberty2; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; Clintonfatigued; randita; GOPsterinMA; ...

“Anyway, Elmers was a come out of nowhere self-proclaimed “tea party candidate”. If she’s indeed going off the reservation that speaks to the dangers of electing just anyone who happens to talk a good game. Words are cheap.”

That’s just crazy talk, Impy. I read on FR that only people with no record of accomplishment are pure enough to be trusted.


31 posted on 03/23/2014 8:46:40 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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