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The climate change deniers have won
The Guardian UK ^ | March 22, 2014 | by Nick Cohen

Posted on 03/23/2014 5:57:56 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

... David Cameron, who once promised that if you voted blue you would go green, now appoints Owen Paterson, a man who is not just ignorant of environmental science but proud of his ignorance, as his environment secretary. George Osborne, who once promised that his Treasury would be "at the heart of this historic fight against climate change", now gives billions in tax concessions to the oil and gas industry, cuts the funds for onshore wind farms and strips the Green Investment Bank of the ability to borrow and lend

All of which is a long way of saying that the global warming deniers have won. And please, can I have no emails from bed-wetting kidults blubbing that you can't call us "global warming deniers " because "denier" makes us sound like "Holocaust deniers", and that means you are comparing us to Nazis? The evidence for man-made global warming is as final as the evidence of Auschwitz. No other word will do.

Tempting though it is to blame cowardly politicians, the abuse comes too easily. The question remains: what turned them into cowards? Rightwing billionaires in the United States and the oil companies have spent fortunes on blocking action on climate change. A part of the answer may therefore be that conservative politicians in London, Washington and Canberra are doing their richest supporters' bidding. There's truth in the bribery hypothesis. In my own little world of journalism, I have seen rightwing hacks realise the financial potential of denial and turn from reasonable men and women into beetle-browed conspiracy theorists.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: climategate; davidcameron; demagogue; georgeosborne; globalwarminghoax; hoax; journalism; leftwinghack; mediascumbag; nickcohen; owenpaterson; socialism
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Journalism. The festering left where green is actually red.
1 posted on 03/23/2014 5:57:56 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

A very non biased article. /s

[cowards, hacks, deniers, etc.]


2 posted on 03/23/2014 6:00:57 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

Well, we weren’t the ones who changed it from global warming to climate change because our theories were debunked.


3 posted on 03/23/2014 6:03:27 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

i am always amazed at the logic of writers such as this that seem to believe that somehow rich industrialists want global warming. the idea that maybe there isn’t any global warming never occurs to these people.


4 posted on 03/23/2014 6:04:15 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: beebuster2000

Deniers are headed for jail. LOL! See you there.


5 posted on 03/23/2014 6:05:35 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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To: beebuster2000

“i am always amazed at the logic”

It’s not logic. It’s an article of faith. It’s their religion. Therefore logic and reason do enter the fray. In their mind it “is” and there is no debating or doubting that fact.


6 posted on 03/23/2014 6:07:17 AM PDT by FAA
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I don’t know anybody who says the climate doesn’t change. If you live long enough you’re going to experience warmer decades and cooler decades. Man has as much to do with the heating and cooling cycles as a man peeing into Winnipesaukee controls how it will freeze or thaw.


7 posted on 03/23/2014 6:07:34 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Guardian -a hotbed of folks who couldn’t get a job cleaning floors in the physics department - jests grandly when it speaks of those “...ignorant of environmental science...”

Send your clowns over to a real science department (not in East Anglia) and watch them be pwnd.


8 posted on 03/23/2014 6:07:56 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The billionaire Chinese politburo members and unreformed soviet industrialists aren’t buying into AGW either.


9 posted on 03/23/2014 6:10:27 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The article's author hints that the world will be saved by plant-eating hippies in hybrid cars (preaching to his choir). But in fact he is lying to them. Their hybrid car will be uneconomical under his plan, and heating their homes will be a luxury. They will only be able afford a cramped and cold city apartment next to a bus line, but even that won't work ultimately. No, his followers must die to save the planet nothing less will work.

So he is a mass murderer at heart or just a clueless tool of the real mass murderers.

10 posted on 03/23/2014 6:11:27 AM PDT by palmer (There's someone in my lead but it's not me)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The evidence for man-made global warming is as final as the evidence of Auschwitz. No other word will do.

I cannot believe that a "reputable" source would publish that statement. One of the most ignorant and idiotic things I have ever seen printed.

11 posted on 03/23/2014 6:12:36 AM PDT by Paradox (Unexpected things coming for the next few years.)
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To: FAA

OK!! Everybody pay attention!

Lesson for today:

1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.

2. The sun is a ball of fire that controls the climates of all its planets.

3. The earth is one of the sun’s planets.

4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.

5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.

Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?


12 posted on 03/23/2014 6:14:20 AM PDT by abclily
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To: abclily

“Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?”

Hater!

(Quoth the Global Climate Change Church)


13 posted on 03/23/2014 6:16:46 AM PDT by FAA
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Articles like this are the equivalent of sticking fingers in ears and going, “Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.”


14 posted on 03/23/2014 6:18:36 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Thanks for the post .. reminds me to torch the burn pile this week   d:^)
15 posted on 03/23/2014 6:18:52 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Well, since it’s a natural science, it evolves...


16 posted on 03/23/2014 6:19:43 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

It’s remarkable how transparent is the left — all the tactics and subterfuge and conspiratorial behavior they have, they project onto the people they continually condemn.

Thanks Oldeconomybuyer.


17 posted on 03/23/2014 6:19:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
And please, can I have no emails from bed-wetting kidults blubbing that you can't call us "global warming deniers " because "denier" makes us sound like "Holocaust deniers", and that means you are comparing us to Nazis?

The Left's idea of "diversity"; they speak, you shut up.

18 posted on 03/23/2014 6:21:24 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“If temperatures are rising, and it’s an irrefutable fact that humans are to blame, why does it require hundreds of millions of dollars to continue to prove it each year? “

http://townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2014/03/23/unsettling-settled-science-n1813037?utm_source


19 posted on 03/23/2014 6:31:15 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: beebuster2000

It’s almost like Nick Cohen wants global warming to be true. He’s disappointed when the sea levels don’t rise - when people don’t die... Something feels very sick about him.


20 posted on 03/23/2014 6:32:35 AM PDT by GOPJ (NASA: N othing A bout S pace A nymore - - FreperClearCase_guy)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The climate change deniers have won

Hallelujah!

In your face, climate change hoax deniers!

21 posted on 03/23/2014 6:32:57 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Man Bear Pig has more lives than anything. I do not claim credit for the earth’s climate.

Global warming is dead in America due to the longest winter in recent memory. Let’s give God’s creation credit for that.

Libtards reject the notion of God and therefore are allowed to shovel snow in their summer shorts.

I reject the notion that a government is my creator.


22 posted on 03/23/2014 6:33:41 AM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
What makes man unique among all God's creatures is that he significantly alters his environment, far beyond digging a burrow or building a nest.

Environmental modification is, in fact, our raison d'etre without which we would not dominate the planet.

Rather than shun our nature we should embrace it and explore new frontiers - the seas and space would be fine new worlds for the most advanced of all species.

Would we be created just to insist that it was our destiny commit suicide as a species?

23 posted on 03/23/2014 6:36:17 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Historians will refer to this administration as "The Half-Black Plague.")
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To: FAA
logic and reason do enter the fray

In Mark Twain’s classic, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court, Hank Morgan
uses science to create the illusion of magic.

Contrast that with the global warming alarmist of today who
uses magic to create the illusion of science.

Those illusion are exposed now.

24 posted on 03/23/2014 6:37:18 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: FAA

True dat!


25 posted on 03/23/2014 7:02:16 AM PDT by abclily
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To: abclily

Heritic! Off with his head! Your lack of enthusiasm for our cause has been noted comrade! ;-/


26 posted on 03/23/2014 7:16:34 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The evidence for man-made global warming is as final as the evidence of Auschwitz. No other word will do.

LOL! Freaking drama queen!

27 posted on 03/23/2014 7:19:07 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yet again a writer pulls the thoroughly debunked claim that 97% of all scientists agree. As soon as I read that line anywhere in an article I know that the writer isn’t serious and is just spouting propaganda, for that’s all the 97% claim is, pure propaganda.

There should be a concerted effort to get a major news organization to honestly investigate that 97% claim and print or broadcast a thorough debunking. Then move on to the next organization, until it’s acknowledged by all but the propagandists that the claim is ridiculous.

Won’t happen, but in a world of honest journalism, it would.


28 posted on 03/23/2014 7:22:09 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: EEGator

” The evidence for man-made global warming is as final as the evidence of Auschwitz. No other word will do.”

Well.
Glad that’s settled.

/s


29 posted on 03/23/2014 7:22:50 AM PDT by mkleesma (`Call to me, and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things you do not know.')
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Nick sure does like to lie a lot.


30 posted on 03/23/2014 7:28:11 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: beebuster2000

“i am always amazed at the logic of writers such as this that seem to believe that somehow rich industrialists want global warming. the idea that maybe there isn’t any global warming never occurs to these people.”

I really havent seen any major companies take the anti global warming line. Can you think of 1 company that has publicly come out against it?

On the other hand how many billions have govts handed to the GW advocates?


31 posted on 03/23/2014 7:30:16 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

We’re at 17 years of no warming now, and counting. If that continues for another, say, 8 years, we’ll have a quarter century where the people calling us traitors and, in some cases, calling for us to be imprisoned, or even put to death, for our opinions, will have been shown to be complete idiots. (I know, they already have been to most, but I figure a quarter century might complete the job.)

I don’t mind the idiots who just pontificate, but the ones who have called for punishments should be drummed out of their “profession” whether that be journalist or scientist (and I use those terms very loosely in their cases.)


32 posted on 03/23/2014 7:31:03 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Having read the sympathetic comments after the posted article, I now feel as if I’d stumbled into a group therapy session for the criminally insane.


33 posted on 03/23/2014 7:36:16 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: GOPJ

“It’s almost like Nick Cohen wants global warming to be true. He’s disappointed when the sea levels don’t rise - when people don’t die... Something feels very sick about him.”

The one thing we never hear from these global warming fanatics is what it will take to stop it. Turning our thermostats down and driving more efficient cars is not going to do it. Neither will windmills and solar. It will take the complete restructuring of our economy and forcing people to dramatically lower their lifestyles. At the same time food prices and everything else will rise dramatically.
Even if WE do it, the Chinese and Indians have said they will not so whatever we do is useless.


34 posted on 03/23/2014 7:40:27 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

>http://english.pravda.ru/science/earth/16-03-2014/127115-global_warming-0/<

How modern global warming science took form


35 posted on 03/23/2014 7:44:55 AM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: mkleesma

I invoke Godwin’s Law.


36 posted on 03/23/2014 8:14:03 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

Only a Nazi would invoke Godwin’s Law.


37 posted on 03/23/2014 8:16:52 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

38 posted on 03/23/2014 8:26:14 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Billthedrill

Are you calling me a Nazi?


39 posted on 03/23/2014 8:30:34 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

4 billion years of climate change on Earth is the truth, the truth wins eventually.


40 posted on 03/23/2014 9:34:21 AM PDT by jyro (French-like Democrats wave the white flag of surrender while we are winning)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Headline: “Nick’s Knickers Knotted Now”.


41 posted on 03/23/2014 9:40:46 AM PDT by Col Freeper (FR: A smorgasbord of Conservative Mindfood - dig in and enjoy it!)
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To: Sirius Lee

As soon as these lefties can get their buds in china and Russia to implement their anti carbon policies, get back to us in the west.


42 posted on 03/23/2014 9:44:21 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: abclily
Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?

Dats racis.

43 posted on 03/23/2014 9:50:54 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (I am not cynical. /s)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Climate denier = impervious to bovine excrement


44 posted on 03/23/2014 10:19:43 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Professional Engineer

LOL


45 posted on 03/23/2014 10:57:49 AM PDT by abclily
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
You're right. IF global warming was caused by man we'd be in trouble.

Odds are against it. Massive global climate change at this time in history is unlikely. That's because at any time in history the odds are against it. I'm going with 'what's common is common'...

On the other hand liberals have been using fear tactics about the world ending unless they GET MORE POWER and MONEY - forever...

Before the "global warming scam" there was peak oil, club of rome, population bomb, nuclear winter, global cooling, no water, natural resources will disappear, and many others. As soon as one 'the world's going to end' bullsh*t scam' is debunked, they come up with a new one.

All these scams have one thing in common. We're ALL going to die and suffer IF we don't give Liberal elites more money and power.

I am soooooooo sick of these blowhard democrats and their 'the world's going to end sandwich-board mentality.

46 posted on 03/23/2014 11:45:43 AM PDT by GOPJ (NASA: N othing A bout S pace A nymore - - FreperClearCase_guy)
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To: Norseman
There should be a concerted effort to get a major news organization to honestly investigate that 97% claim and print or broadcast a thorough debunking. Then move on to the next organization, until it’s acknowledged by all but the propagandists that the claim is ridiculous. Won’t happen, but in a world of honest journalism, it would.

A world of 'honest journalism'? LOL - good one Norseman... that bird has flown the coop...

47 posted on 03/23/2014 11:50:20 AM PDT by GOPJ (NASA: N othing A bout S pace A nymore - - FreperClearCase_guy)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The climate change deniers have won

Leave it to The Graun to even hack a simple headline.
Fact is climate always changes, and for factors not influenced appreciably by the most heinous of human activity.
And that's the point.
Lying leftists and lying leftist rags like the Guardian promote the anthropogenic global warming scam to grow government at the expense of individual freedom, but they are losing.
Trying as hard as they will to propagandize ... but their lies are not swaying any but those who are lifelong useful idiots.

48 posted on 03/23/2014 3:02:46 PM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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Are you calling me a Nazi?

Uh, it's a joke. Godwin's Law, right?

49 posted on 03/23/2014 4:29:01 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

Deadpan is hard in text.


50 posted on 03/23/2014 5:31:56 PM PDT by EEGator
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