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Where are the positive stories about Obamacare?
Los Angeles Times ^ | March 23, 2014 | By Michael Hiltzik

Posted on 03/23/2014 6:08:24 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

... With the March 31 deadline for 2014 enrollment in individual health insurance just days away, more questions are being asked about the mismatch in publicity about the Affordable Care Act by its opponents and supporters.

The millions of beneficiaries of the measure — families excluded from insurance because of high premiums or preexisting medical conditions, low-income individuals made newly eligible for Medicaid, seniors receiving a new subsidy for prescriptions, women granted the legal right to affordable maternity coverage for the first time — seem to be absent from the news media or political ad campaigns.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; journalism; obamacare; rinocare; socialism; zerocare

1 posted on 03/23/2014 6:08:24 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
legal right to affordable maternity coverage

WHAT does THAT mean?

2 posted on 03/23/2014 6:09:50 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They’re being invented by the enemedia as we speak...


3 posted on 03/23/2014 6:10:09 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." --Quigley)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Here is a fact for them. There aren’t any good stories.

Medicaid is nothing to strut around about.


4 posted on 03/23/2014 6:12:11 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
There are plenty of them....millions,in fact.But EVEY LAST ONE of them comes from an individual or organization that's exempt.
5 posted on 03/23/2014 6:15:03 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What’s good about forced insurance?.


6 posted on 03/23/2014 6:16:52 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
When Osama’s spokeskid leaves (maybe by this time next year) Hiltzik will be in the running for the job.
7 posted on 03/23/2014 6:17:18 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: dforest

Here’s a quick story on an obamacare signee.

I went to a family owned hotel yesterday and was talking to the manager who was trying to change obamacare plans while on his hotel computer.

Seems like he had researched a plan and never paid for it but now that he wanted another plan for real the obamacare support people would not let him switch to another plan.

He was pissed to say the least and said he just would declare a hardship and forget the whole thing.


8 posted on 03/23/2014 6:17:22 AM PDT by Hang'emAll (If guns kill people, do pencils misspell words?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The writer of the article undermines his own premise (no surprise there).

High-risk patients paying under the odds (i.e. eliminating any market forces) is not a ‘success,’ merely another example of ivory tower lefties standing a Christmas tree on the narrow end and expecting it to stay upright.


9 posted on 03/23/2014 6:17:56 AM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The End)
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To: Hang'emAll

Well. I guess that is a positive story. You should post it at the slimes.


10 posted on 03/23/2014 6:18:29 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"If there were no election over three or four years, 25 million sign-ups would change the mood," Blendon says. "But we have a consumer referendum in 2014, and it's not clear how it will play out."

HA HA if there were no elections, 0bamacare would succeed? Just damn!

11 posted on 03/23/2014 6:20:12 AM PDT by Principled
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Democrats usual way of pushing their lies - cherry picking a few extreme examples that support their meme then having the press push it out - isn’t going to work this time.

The usual pity party cases - more than enough to show how ‘wonderful’ Obamacare is won’t work because reporters know too many real people damaged by this program.


12 posted on 03/23/2014 6:20:43 AM PDT by GOPJ (NASA: N othing A bout S pace A nymore - - FreperClearCase_guy)
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To: 2banana

“WHAT does THAT mean?”

That’s like the term “affordable housing”.

It begs a definition.

IMHO


13 posted on 03/23/2014 6:25:41 AM PDT by ripley
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Where are the positive stories about Obamacare?

The LA Times wrote this???

What the hell! Aren't they in the business of digging up such stories for Ubama?

14 posted on 03/23/2014 6:25:51 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: dforest

You have that right, To many ILLEGAL INVADERS on it.

Fastest way to get Medicare disability is to claim you are crazy. Not hard to cheat the test either.

But for those of us truly disabled it takes years. Guy in my Sunday School class was on the Heart Transplant list, be could not work. SS disability turned him down multiple times even with a lawyer. The church and his wife kept a roof over their heads and food in their mouths. This is A..backwards if you ask me. He should have been at the top of the chain.

When he was pronounced clear, he found a job he could do and got off disability, he didn’t have to, but he was a honest man, and wanted to support his own family.


15 posted on 03/23/2014 6:26:58 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: 2banana
legal right to affordable maternity coverage

WHAT does THAT mean?

Taxpayer funded condoms and abortions.

16 posted on 03/23/2014 6:27:29 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Principled
But we have a consumer referendum in 2014, and it's not clear how it will play out.

If it's not clear, you're not paying attention!

17 posted on 03/23/2014 6:30:13 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Well we don’t qualify for 0’care ours is worse they are government Mandated. Medicare and Tricare Life for retired Military over 65.

WE WILL LOSE OUR PHARMACY! and express scripts sucks galore.
Our health care is not the big item issue they are making it out to be. It is their DONOR PALM GREASING with hardware the Military does not want or has requested! IF YOU KNOW A MILITARY PERSON PASS IT ON!

TRICARE LIFE Retired Military over 65 just received this noticed 2 weeks ago, takes effect 4/14/2014, why they sent a prelim with out the drug list is WASTEFUL spending in itself! BETTER START CALLING YOUR CONGRESS CRITTERS NOW! ANOTHER BROKEN PROMISE TO THE MILITARY WHO CAN’T PROTECT THEMSELVES!

PLEASE NOTE THE PALM GREASING IN THE FIRST LINK! THAT IS THE REAL PROBLEM, NOT Retiree’s health care.
ALL RETIRED MILITARY! All I see is a nightmare. ES cannot be trusted to get the RIGHT manufacture, and not all generics are equal to name brand.

As a very drug sensitive person, I WANT A WAIVER! And should be able to get one. Or get samples to try first I am extremely drug sensitive!


I did not include the cover letter.

This is couched in such language that it is hard to under stand. This is a Prelim letter, we don’t even know at this time which drugs are going to be on the list. Waste of money to not send out the full thing.

These are the option we are going to be given in a “new” SCREW U Pilot program from Tricare.


1 Transfer your medication from a retail pharmacy to save , convenient Tricare Home Delivery and pay less out of pocket! A typical cost for a 90 day retail supply is $51 but only $13 for Home Delivery.

2 Ask your doctor about using a low cost generic that is not among the medications included in the Pilot Generics can still be filled at retail for $5

3 Transfer maintenance medications under the Pilot from retail pharmacy to a military pharmacy. Call your local military pharmacy to see if they have you medication
4 Continue to get you selected maintenance medications at a retail and pay 100% of the cost of the medication starting with your third refill.

If you refill your selected maintenance medication’s at a retail pharmacy after March 14, 2014 you’ll get letters from the Tricare Pharmacy contractor Express Scripts, Inc about switching to Home Delivery. Remember, starting with your third fill you will be responsible for 100% of the cost of the medications if you chose to continue to obtain them at a retail pharmacy.

If you have other health insurance with a prescription benefit, you do not fall under the Pilot. There will also be a process to obtain waivers on a case by case basis, due to personal need or hardship, emergency or other special circumstaces-0 such as living in a nursing home. After participating in the Pilot for 1 year you may opt out.

Military Waste and Fraud Continue In the Middle of the Government Shutdown HERE IS YOUR PROBLEM : PALM GREASING

Washington’s Blog
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/10/wasted-military.html

http://www.reuters.com/investigates/pentagon/#article/part1

Mugging the Military
http://www.ijreview.com/2012/06/9466-mugging-soldiers/

Mugging our Troops
http://www.reuters.com/investigates/pentagon/#article/part1

0bama to Force Military Families Away From Tricare ...By Tripling Their Fees. Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare.”
CBO: The military is getting squeezed for domestic spending cash
http://www.humanevents.com/2014/02/26/cbo-the-military-is-getting-squeezed-for-domestic-spending-cash/

Pentagon Outlines Increased Tricare Fee Proposal
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/03/05/pentagon-outlines-increased-tricare-fee-proposal.html?comp=7000023317828&rank=1


18 posted on 03/23/2014 6:31:30 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: dforest

Report: 125,000 illegals in California qualified to be covered by Medicaid
http://americanthinker.com/blog/2014/02/report_125000_illegals_in_california_qualified_to_be_covered_by_medicaid.html

War on Seniors
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/feb/28/weber-obamacares-punch-to-home-health-care/

Medicare And Medicaid Fraud Is Costing Taxpayers Billions
http://www.forbes.com/sites/merrillmatthews/2012/05/31/medicare-and-medicaid-fraud-is-costing-taxpayers-billions/

Anchor Baby Outrage: Americans Pay BILLIONS for Illegal Alien Births (Video) http://toprightnews.com/?p=1333
Not only do we pay for them to be born here, then there is the food stamps, welfare, Medicaid, cell phones, school and the Judicial system and I am sure many more we could add that ILLEGAL INVADERS are not entitled to.

Sen Dems Why Didn’t some one tell us Obamacare would CUT MEDICARE!
http://floppingaces.net/most_wanted/senate-democrats-why-didnt-someone-tell-us-obamacare-would-cut-medicare/comment-page-1/

Immigrants and Prison
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/30/business/30leonside.html?_r=0

MORE WASTEFUL SPENDING!
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/eric-scheiner/govt-spending-48m-tell-students-get-fruved $4.8 MILLION to tell Students to ‘Get Fruved’

Mooch’s $12 K dress YOU paid for.
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/02/14/the-irony-of-michelle-obamas-10000-dress-n1795008

Chinese Prostitutes and Brazilian Cotton Farmers
http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/stossel/blog/2011/06/14/chinese-prostitutes-and-brazilian-cotton-farmers

This does not cover her trip to china.


19 posted on 03/23/2014 6:34:05 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: GOPJ

“Democrats usual way of pushing their lies - cherry picking a few extreme examples that support their meme then having the press push it out - isn’t going to work this time.”
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They do cherry pick and then they turn around and accuse the opposition of cherry picking. Projection in every direction. They talk about tolerance and compassion and then rejoice when someone who opposes them drops dead. Liberals are amazingly two faced but they all seem to think they are the soul of reason, shining their light into dark corners to brighten the world.


20 posted on 03/23/2014 6:36:26 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: RandallFlagg

Enemedia? I LOVE that word.


21 posted on 03/23/2014 6:45:43 AM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: secret garden

Thank you. I made it up myself during the Iraq War.


22 posted on 03/23/2014 6:52:40 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." --Quigley)
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To: dforest

Medicaid is nothing to strut around about.

What is really crazy is when the children await for their parents estate to be complete and find out that they get zero because the parents were on Medicaid that will be very disappointing to little Johnny and little Jane. I can’t wait for the first sob story on that. It will be sight to see and hear about. People still don’t know that little nugget with Medicaid. They think it is all just poor people who are getting Medicaid but that is not true, many working families are too.


23 posted on 03/23/2014 6:58:00 AM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Where are the positive stories about Obamacare?


24 posted on 03/23/2014 7:00:55 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The future ain't what it use to be -- Yogi Berra)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The ‘positive’ stories are contained in the Government Advertisments for ObamaCare. All lies, but they feature the targeted demographics trumpeting their success in the ease of getting an affordable policy.

They neglect in most of the advertisements to say these peoples’ affordable policies are subsidized on the backs of other Americans who actually have some worth in this society.


25 posted on 03/23/2014 7:01:39 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: GailA
“Bipolar” is the de rigueur claim.
26 posted on 03/23/2014 7:04:40 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

GERMAN LIEUTENANT
Here you see a typical meal the
prisoners are getting. What are we
having today, Schulz?

SCHULTZ
Bean soup with ham hocks. Would you
like to taste it?
(fishing with the
ladle)
Where’s the ham hock? There should
be a ham hock.


27 posted on 03/23/2014 7:11:45 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The left isn’t into positive stories. They don’t sell well anyway.

On a side note. How many of these fortunate people have actually tried using their obamacare plans? i.e. have they found doctors who will accept their “coverage”?


28 posted on 03/23/2014 7:14:12 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (Repeal it.)
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To: Hang'emAll

Here’s another one: a friend was in a car accident years ago, and has had very expensive insurance since. Her husband is unemployed, but had been continuing the seperate insurance for him and their daughter. Wife went on ACA website to see if they could get cheaper combined insurance plan.

It turns out they could save about $300 a month with subsidies. She didn’t check which doctors accepted the plans, which none of those which treat her pre-existing injuries accept. She has now spent two months trying to get off the generally useless plan to buy non-subsidized insurance.

There’s also the matter of a deducted payment going into the system, but not reaching the insurance company...but I have no idea whose fault that is.


29 posted on 03/23/2014 7:16:15 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: MulberryDraw
On a side note. How many of these fortunate people have actually tried using their obamacare plans? i.e. have they found doctors who will accept their “coverage”?

Exactly. Note the author's "success stories" are only successful sign-ups. Big deal.

30 posted on 03/23/2014 7:17:49 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: Izzy Dunne
But we have a consumer referendum in 2014, and it's not clear how it will play out.

My prescription for a generic drug for lipitor went from $20 to $205 thanks to the halfrican, mooselimb, communist prick and all of his demonRAT minions in the congress.

I know that I am not alone among people that have been screwed because of obamacare.

There will be weeping and gnashing of demonRAT teeth in November of 2014.

31 posted on 03/23/2014 7:30:33 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Where are the positive stories about Auschwitz?
32 posted on 03/23/2014 8:42:20 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: ripley

Affordable = bubble.

As in “affordable housing,” “affordable college,” “affordable breathing,” etc.


33 posted on 03/23/2014 8:45:47 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The nightmare stories about Obamacare ARE the positive stories....it only gets worse as it goes along.


34 posted on 03/23/2014 9:01:42 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Washington: "I cannot tell a lie". Obama: "I cannot tell.....I lie")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If there were any success stories we would be hearing about them all day long.


35 posted on 03/23/2014 10:26:59 AM PDT by uncitizen (Impeach the Communist Already!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; All
pResident 0'ButtCrack et. al., could (proverbially speaking :)
choke to death on his DeathCARE, that's a positive point.

36 posted on 03/23/2014 5:43:50 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: 2banana

“Legal right” generally refers to a “right” the government invented and forces people to respect.


37 posted on 03/25/2014 3:33:12 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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