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Missing Malaysian jet MH370: New French satellite images add to growing signs search is narrowing
Gulf News ^ | 03/23/2013

Posted on 03/23/2014 7:53:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: 353FMG

This is story is going to go longer than the Natalee Holloway disappearance.


51 posted on 03/23/2014 10:22:35 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

What if it’s not all the usual suspects, hijacking, mechanical failure, suicide, etc? What if it happens again? Now that would be scary.


52 posted on 03/23/2014 10:35:49 AM PDT by USAF80
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To: C210N

Would be fascinating and viewer-drawing to determine how many CNN correspondents it takes to make the pallet no longer float.


Even I would tune in!


53 posted on 03/23/2014 10:40:41 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Georgia Girl 2
PS: Isn’t it odd that the media like CNN or Fox cannot simply get an engineer from Boeing to quickly confirm that the 777 does not use wooden pallets? Funny huh? Instead they just keep repeating this giberish.

Apparently someone did. See reply 29.

54 posted on 03/23/2014 10:45:28 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: dfwgator

This is story is going to go longer than the Natalee Holloway disappearance.


Maybe they can find a blonde girl clinging to a pallet. You can sell a lot of reverse mortgages with that story!


55 posted on 03/23/2014 10:48:43 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Gadsden1st

They could then put Candy Crowley & special guest Madeline Albright on it, and they could discuss the foreign policy issues involved in the search.


56 posted on 03/23/2014 11:10:45 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Yaelle

The search ships are looking for a pallet, but they are just lumbering along.


57 posted on 03/23/2014 11:26:35 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wooden Pallets..yeah that’s something common you see on a plane..maybe they will find the SS Minnow while their at it


58 posted on 03/23/2014 12:03:28 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: SeekAndFind

but...but... Some crazy ex military clown says the plane was taken to Pakistan?!?


59 posted on 03/23/2014 12:09:04 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Wooden Pallets..yeah that’s something common you see on a plane..maybe they will find the SS Minnow while their at it.

See reply 29.

60 posted on 03/23/2014 12:11:35 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Thanks for the info. This story is never going to end is it..one crazy turn after another..first they need to find this debris and determine what it is, once and for all


61 posted on 03/23/2014 12:18:16 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: donozark; SeekAndFind

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3135196/posts?page=514#514
Well prepare for disappointment because the Boeing 777 uses a metal container system for cargo. All cargo is loaded into metal containers. They don’t use wooden pallets.

Ask yourself why the news media could not just have gotten a Boeing engineer on in say an hour or so and had him confirm they don’t use wooden pallets?

Can you say disinformation?

Like I said before “Meanwhile on an airstrip in W Pakistan.” :-)


62 posted on 03/23/2014 12:41:47 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Gadsden1st

Re: “good for an hour of video on CNN”

LOL. Remember when Letterman used to play the “Does It Float” game on his show? CNN could just start playing that with all kinds of “stuff”.


63 posted on 03/23/2014 12:56:39 PM PDT by bunster
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To: Whenifhow

We are talking about a country outside the USA. I have seen them carrying live chickens on board flights. India uses trucks with wooden chassis so anything goes outside of us.


64 posted on 03/23/2014 1:04:12 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: Cheerio

Obama was the HAPPIEST when this jet disappeared....he knew the “shiny ball” would distract the media away from covering Obamacare........oh wait, they weren’t covering Obamacare ANYWAY!! Nevermind.


65 posted on 03/23/2014 1:17:35 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
This story is never going to end is it..one crazy turn after another..first they need to find this debris and determine what it is, once and for all.

They're either going to find the wreckage, or they're going to find a newer and juicier story to bump this one off of the lead.

66 posted on 03/23/2014 1:24:54 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Whenifhow
Ask yourself why the news media could not just have gotten a Boeing engineer on in say an hour or so and had him confirm they don’t use wooden pallets?

They did. See reply 29.

67 posted on 03/23/2014 1:26:02 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

These families deserve the truth..I can move on, but these families can’t and that is what this should have been all about since the beginning..the media has made this into a mockery..I always pray for the glimmer of hope that this plane is somewhere and these people are still alive..even that 1 percent chance is better than nothing


68 posted on 03/23/2014 2:02:38 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda
These families deserve the truth...

No disagreement there.

...that is what this should have been all about since the beginning..the media has made this into a mockery...

No disagreement on that either. It's what the media does best.

69 posted on 03/23/2014 2:09:45 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

I just find out everything happened so “Perfectly” plane is flying along, no problem..alright goodnight, all is well..then TWO minutes later, adios plane..like Im supposed to believe that some catastrophic event happened two minutes after all is well is just too perfect to be true..Air France was a panic situation, no one turned off the ACARS and transponder..I actually heard a “Pilot Psychologist” on Fox News earlier today suggest that the pilot turned off the transponder “By mistake in a panic situation” WOW some panic, they turned off the ACARS 15 minutes later, guess they relaxed and panicked again LOL
Planes have mechanical problems, that is a fact..they don’t disappear off the face of the earth


70 posted on 03/23/2014 2:15:40 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Georgia Girl 2
... til they call it flotsam and jetson

Pssssst.... it's 'jetsam'.

71 posted on 03/23/2014 3:13:31 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: exit82

Some of these stories just aren’t slated right.

I pine for the days when the media actually went out of the box and did investigative reporting, instead of routing us their packaged opinions or speculation. Its worse when they hammer on their spoon fed lines of propaganda.


72 posted on 03/23/2014 3:21:08 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it. ~ Albert Einstein)
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To: Whenifhow

Speaking of having someone from Boeing on...have they ever interviewed anyone from Boeing, since this all started?


73 posted on 03/23/2014 3:22:31 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it. ~ Albert Einstein)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Planes have mechanical problems, that is a fact..they don’t disappear off the face of the earth

Sometimes they do. Lots of examples where they were found years later. Sometimes pilots fly perfectly good airplanes into the water or earth. A 777 maybe big but the Pacific is a lot of real estate to hide in.

74 posted on 03/23/2014 3:26:16 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: Lucky9teen; crosslink

Speaking of having someone from Boeing on...have they ever interviewed anyone from Boeing, since this all started?
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Not that I recall...but then when this first was reported missing on March 7 on Fox, I avoided the story (they have had other expert guests).

It seemed like propaganda just like other recent events like Sandy Hook and Boston. There is something they want us to believe and it isn’t what really happened - whatever it was.

So ask yourself - what is it they want us to believe? And what are they NOT revealing?


75 posted on 03/23/2014 3:45:47 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

I have not witnessed anyone from Boeing, the other fact that has not been revealed is the number of pounds of fuel on board. This is easily obtained and is documented at the airport. If someone has read it please share. The common answer is they had enough for flight. Some airlines will put more fuel on the aircraft at their base airport due to over charging that occurs China.


76 posted on 03/23/2014 3:58:29 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: dfwgator

Did you say Menudo? ;)

77 posted on 03/23/2014 4:20:55 PM PDT by Redcitizen (When a zombie apocalypse starts, Chuck Norris doesn't try to survive. The zombies do.)
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To: Whenifhow

Just like TWA 800. Probably a problem with their child and they are keeping it from the flying public. We will forever be looking for the hijackers or errant missiles.


78 posted on 03/23/2014 5:08:23 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: SeekAndFind; LucyT; null and void; maggief; hoosiermama; crosslink; Black Agnes

thanks seekandfind!

All y’all, see posts #2, 24, 26,35,and 36 about shipping containers used in the planes; they use aluminum ones.

If wooden pallets are found in that debris, its not from the plane..


79 posted on 03/23/2014 5:11:45 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: WildHighlander57

We are talking Malaysia here. Different mindsets.


80 posted on 03/23/2014 5:16:38 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: Whenifhow

Well we know one person who thinks he is a good killer using technology. There is not much this person would NOT do if it made him feel more powerful. ——Including taking down an air plane with 200+ on board


81 posted on 03/23/2014 5:17:41 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: USAF80

Just heard on CNN how radar showed that the plane went as low as 12,000 feet..but then went back up to normal altitude, shows only a human could have done that


82 posted on 03/23/2014 5:40:57 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Porpoising can also be a faulty autopilot system.


83 posted on 03/23/2014 6:09:20 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: Sarah Barracuda

When they mention radar is it ATC radar or a military radar? ATC radar picks up what the transponder puts out. The transponder altitude could be faulty. The transponder gets its info from the air data computers. The autopilots also gets its info from the air data system. It uses this data to maintain the correct altitude, airspeed and uses navigation info to maintain the correct heading.

So it helps to know how they got this info. A high flying aircraft can be seen a long way on ATC radar (my buddy says his radar used to see out 350 miles and he’s in a high traffic area) not so down low even for military radar the range is not that great because of the curvature of the earth.


84 posted on 03/23/2014 6:29:32 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: USAF80

Yeah that is exactly what Michael Kay said on CNN..since the transponder was turned off how is Malaysia able to get this radar? So if this information is true what does that suggest..that the pilots were trying to save the plane, and save the people from a rapid decompression? Yet the plane kept on flying for another 6 hours..the 12,000 foot altitude if the whole point was to save the passengers wouldn’t they all have been able to breathe? I think whenever I hear “Malaysian officials said” I take it with a grain of salt..everything out of their mouths have been lies since the beginning, from calling this a deliberate act to this dont know what to believe anymore


85 posted on 03/23/2014 7:14:00 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Six hours at 12000 feet would burn gas a lot more than at cruising altitude. Don’t know if they considered that. It’s possible the altitude was incorrect. It may have reported at 12000 feet when in actuality they may have been at cruising altitude.

Under 16000 feet you can breathe unassisted. The air is thin but you will live. Once did an under 10000 feet unpressurized flight across the Pacific to medevac a patient. It took five aerial (military aircraft) refuels. The aircraft in question could make the same trip without refueling. This shows how much more fuel you burn flying low.


86 posted on 03/23/2014 7:32:28 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: USAF80

Im seriously at the point that I just have no idea what to make of this plane and where the Malaysians are getting these numbers..remember first they said it went up to 45,000 feet..then down to 23,000 then up again to 35,000 then supposedly it went down as low as 5,000 feet..I have no clue where they are coming up with this information if there is no transponder how else are they getting this radar


87 posted on 03/23/2014 7:34:43 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

It sounds like the same thing happened a few years ago off California. ATC was relying on transponder data and the data was wrong. That aircraft went in with all passengers except there was another aircraft in the vicinity that saw the whole thing.

They were getting overspeed and stall (too slow) warnings plus their altitude was showing good but they were actually in a dive. They ended up stalling the aircraft because they thought they were going too fast and crashed.


88 posted on 03/23/2014 7:54:12 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: SeekAndFind

The info keeps changing daily. I’m half way expecting the Maylaysian government to announce the plane never took off.


89 posted on 03/23/2014 8:30:01 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: WildHighlander57

Wooden pallets are often used to transport cargo on aircraft. The cargo compartments of wide body passenger airplanes use a conveyor system in the belly with locks spaced at precise intervals. These locks hold cargo containers called LD3’s or aluminum pallets called cookie sheets. Air freight that is too large to fit in an LD3 container is often on wooden pallets strapped to a cookie sheet. Google LD3 and aircraft cookie sheet. It is very likely this aircraft had wooden pallets onboard.


90 posted on 03/23/2014 8:54:14 PM PDT by 6AL-4V
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To: SeekAndFind

The news media doesn’t have access to Google? Amazing what a 3 second web search finds:

http://www.boeing.com/assets/pdf/commercial/startup/pdf/CargoPalletsContainers.pdf


91 posted on 03/23/2014 9:02:53 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: 6AL-4V

Many thanks for the info!


92 posted on 03/23/2014 9:10:04 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: WildHighlander57

I know it sounds strange, wooden pallets on an airplane, but i see it all the time. Anything normally shipped on a wooden pallet by truck would be placed by forklift on an aircraft cookie sheet and loaded on a widebody aircraft. The ULD containers and cookie sheets are used on every large aircraft, they fit on Boeing 767, 777, 747, MD-11, DC-10, A300, 330, 340.


93 posted on 03/23/2014 9:16:49 PM PDT by 6AL-4V
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To: USAF80

Chinese aircraft have seen “Suspicious objects” in the ocean..if this is parts of the plane at least let their be answers to this mystery


94 posted on 03/23/2014 9:46:40 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: USAF80

Debris seems to be “White and square”


95 posted on 03/23/2014 9:47:21 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: SeekAndFind

CNN: Crew of Chinese plane searching for MH370 has spotted “suspicious objects” in south Indian Ocean, China’s state-run media reports.


96 posted on 03/23/2014 9:47:39 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Couldn’t they just as easily plant something that looks like wreckage?


97 posted on 03/23/2014 9:49:05 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

They could..I dont know what type of supposed debris from a plane would be “White and square” Im no plane expert but a wing isnt square


98 posted on 03/23/2014 9:50:21 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: SeekAndFind

I have now seen the “aviation experts” on CNN change their “professional and expert analysis” half a dozen times in 16 days. People are seriously getting paid off this b.s. and it is ridiculous watching the histrionics of CNN around the clock with every piece of garbage found on satellite or floating in seaweed.


99 posted on 03/23/2014 9:50:54 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big.)
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To: dfwgator

Shouldn’t take a genius to figure this out, they should look down at the darn debris and figure out what it is


100 posted on 03/23/2014 9:51:12 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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