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To Frack or Not to Frack, That is the Question
Townhall.com ^ | March 23, 2014 | Bruce Bialosky

Posted on 03/23/2014 11:15:57 AM PDT by Kaslin

Five years ago almost no one knew the term – Fracking. Today it is one of the hottest topics in America and has become one of our hottest political footballs. The question is whether the fracking process harms underground water. It depends on who you ask.

Josh Fox received money from HBO to make a movie called Gasland. The documentary reached great heights as it was nominated for an Academy Award for best documentary based on a small theatrical release. Josh Fox, a little known theater director, became a darling of the anti-fracking movement. The highlight of his film was a scene where a resident of Dimock Township, Pennsylvania, lit his water on fire. That would scare most people and it certainly did. It left critics questioning the viability of the fracking process. Except for some Irish filmmakers

Previously, Ann McElhinney had made documentaries for the BBC, CBC (Canada) and RTE (Ireland). McElhinney and her team had made two prior movies about what McElhinney characterized as “environmental scares.” After seeing Gasland, they decided that they needed to look into the matter.

What they found was water in major portions of America can be lit on fire. That is because it contains hydrocarbons. They found this from simple research. What they also found was that fracking is not some new thing. It has been going on since it originated in Kansas in 1947 – not exactly new technology. What has changed is that new technology has allowed for drilling that is horizontal once you drill down, allowing one well to access a much broader area.

So they set out to make a movie because they had doubts about the claims made in Gasland. The movie they made is FrackNation, which recently debuted in theaters in Los Angeles and New York. The movie has not received a fond reception amongst the anti-fracking crowd. That crowd made a claim the film was funded by you know who - the Koch brothers. As the producers delineate in the film, all of the money was raised on Kickstarter. If you go to the website you can see that as of March 2, 2014, they raised $212,266 for the project.

The FrackNation team went to Dimock to find out what the facts were there. The people interviewed in Gasland were a small group who were part of a lawsuit against people doing oil and gas development in the local area. Many of the remainder of the Township was interviewed by FrackNation which found out the facts were a little different. These people wanted the development. They stated that the elements in the water had been in their wells for as long as they can remember. The principal couple in the lawsuit and the ones who set their water on fire had their water analyzed by the state environmental unit. They found nothing wrong with the water. The EPA analyzed their water twice and found no problems with it. FrackNation filmed the reporting of the EPA to the local couple who reacted violently as they had during a chance encounter with the filmmakers on a local road.

When FrackNation attempted to interview Josh Fox about their findings, he refused to answer questions. Josh Fox initially questioned the filmmakers’ credentials and then ignored them.

An interesting part of the film was when they diverted to discuss the benefits of the oil and gas being produced by the new findings -- not just the jobs, but the overall effects on our economy. Concurrently, we have been confronted with new geopolitical realities as Russia steps on the Ukraine. The Russians hold sway over the country largely because of supplying natural gas to them. What would be if the United States flooded the world with newly developed sources that would take that weapon out of Putin’s hands? What if we spread the process of fracking to other nations like Mexico, thus freeing them from the yoke of supplies from anti-Democratic suppliers? What would happen to the people of Venezuela if petrodollars no longer flowed in to give their dictatorial leaders control over their lives? And then there is the Middle East.

When I asked Ms. McElhinney why she thought the Left so dislikes fracking, she stated it is because it upsets their agenda to rid the world of hydrocarbons as an energy source. She stated “The Left has grabbed on to Gasland because it scares the masses. It does not matter whether the film is factual, it fits their agenda.”

Lisa Jackson, the former Director of the EPA and no friend of oil and gas, twice – yes, twice -- testified to Congress that there is not one case of water contamination from fracking. Yet, the left continues on with the City of Los Angeles recently banning fracking in city limits until it can be proved there is no harm from the process. One would guess that after almost 70 years, over a million wells and a left-wing EPA Director testifying to Congress, if this has not convinced them then the question is what will?

FrackNation will soon be available on Netflix. Watch Gasland and FrackNation for yourself and come to your own conclusions. I did.


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: agitprop; canada; energy; envirowackos; fracking; fracknation; gasland; greenieweenies; hydrofrac; hysteria; keystonexl; occutards; opec; timelies

1 posted on 03/23/2014 11:15:57 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

If it messes up water supply, don’t frack.


2 posted on 03/23/2014 11:19:52 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Kaslin
The question is whether the fracking process harms underground water. It depends on who you ask.

It always does depend on who you ask. If you ask someone who knows what they are talking about with the scientific knowledge and the experience to speak intelligently, they will tell you that fracking does not affect drinking water.

If you ask the environmental lobby who are completely ignorant of the technology and have no experience, they will deliberately lie and mislead you to think that it does harm drinking water. The press, naturally, listens to the ignorant liars, people of their own ilk.

3 posted on 03/23/2014 11:22:53 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Kaslin

Throw down the gauntlet to these tree-huggers-—until you come up with a cleaner, more efficient way of getting these much-needed resources out of the ground, we’re going to keep on fracking. Just saying “No” is unacceptable.


4 posted on 03/23/2014 11:24:04 AM PDT by huckfillary
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To: Kaslin

Fracking is not new....Only the politicians have changed. It’s all about taxes!!


5 posted on 03/23/2014 11:25:13 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Kaslin

All the FRAKS of Battlestar Galactica
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7KcpgQKo2I


6 posted on 03/23/2014 11:26:20 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Kaslin

I’m profrackin’ so does that make me a bad person? Some of the anitfrackers have already started the fear mongering here in NV. Not only will the profrackers RUIN the water, we’re gonna be responsible for an increase in ERFQUAKE activity too. Shame on me. Now it all this frickin’ frackin’ would kindly lower my fuel bill................. I know, I know. It doesn’t mean my bill will go down. Ever. Maybe.


7 posted on 03/23/2014 11:27:01 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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To: Kaslin
Stoopid liberals want for $15 an hour to work at Taco Bell.

Fracking does that

8 posted on 03/23/2014 11:27:41 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Washington: "I cannot tell a lie". Obama: "I cannot tell.....I lie")
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To: Kaslin

Frack, Frack, Frack, then Frack some more.


9 posted on 03/23/2014 11:28:25 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: gunsequalfreedom

The biggest problem that the Enviro’s have with Fracking (and horizontal drilling) is that it puts more energy in the hands of the people at a cheaper price. The Enviro’s are hoping that we all go back to the stone-age, and new energy technologies are preventing that.


10 posted on 03/23/2014 11:29:21 AM PDT by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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To: Kaslin

11 posted on 03/23/2014 11:30:02 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: tpmintx

Well if the lefties want to do something to oppose the fag-hater Putin, they will support Fracking now.


12 posted on 03/23/2014 11:31:08 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Kaslin

“Frack Baby, Frack”


13 posted on 03/23/2014 11:32:49 AM PDT by AU72
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks Kaslin.
Previously, Ann McElhinney had made documentaries for the BBC, CBC (Canada) and RTE (Ireland). McElhinney and her team had made two prior movies about what McElhinney characterized as “environmental scares.” After seeing Gasland, they decided that they needed to look into the matter... The movie they made is FrackNation, which recently debuted in theaters in Los Angeles and New York. The movie has not received a fond reception amongst the anti-fracking crowd. That crowd made a claim the film was funded by you know who -- the Koch brothers. As the producers delineate in the film, all of the money was raised on Kickstarter. If you go to the website you can see that as of March 2, 2014, they raised $212,266 for the project.
Liberals lie, because liberals are liars.
14 posted on 03/23/2014 11:39:29 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: dfwgator

I used to Frack. But that ended shortly after my wedding day.


15 posted on 03/23/2014 11:39:38 AM PDT by llevrok (F the government)
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To: SunkenCiv

The Saudis are paying for all the anti-fracking propaganda.


16 posted on 03/23/2014 11:40:33 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Kaslin
My bank teller, expert in all things wacko, says fracking is bad. She said that framers In Wyoming could not use their water to water stock because of the white residue. This is called alkali which was in the planes longer than there were people. It is a volcanic residue. Water has been burning over a century also. It gets methane out of coal. These things happen in areas where there has been no fracking.
Fracking is a figment of the low information crowd.
17 posted on 03/23/2014 11:48:18 AM PDT by mountainlion
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To: gunsequalfreedom
If it messes up water supply, don’t frack.

The whole well water contamination schtick was rampant in my area. It was very difficult to change some peoples minds that their "well" was not tapped down to 6000 ft. Out my way, Marcellus fracks from 6000 to 4000 depths in a spider web type pattern. There are now three fracking rigs in a 10 mile square area and let me tell you, all sorts of new toys are showing up around this area and lots of home improvements. The royalties are kicking in.

Side note, does anyone know (realistically) how long a well can actually produce for? (broad question, I know, just looking for an average is all).

18 posted on 03/23/2014 11:49:23 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Kaslin

Natural gas in a drinking water well is nothing new.

A couple decades ago I worked in SW CO. A customer showed me how he could light his well tap water. Very proud of the show, he was.

He even collected it to run his cooking stove. Found out later this was probably a really dangerous thing for him to do, unless he had learned how to do it right. Asphyxiation and explosion risk.


19 posted on 03/23/2014 11:55:26 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Ghost of SVR4
Side note, does anyone know (realistically) how long a well can actually produce for? (broad question, I know, just looking for an average is all).

In the Marcellus...maybe 10-15 years, and it might not be producing in paying quantities for the last 5 years of that period. The production decline curve for Marcellus wells is quite steep.
20 posted on 03/23/2014 12:06:28 PM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: Ghost of SVR4

Side note, does anyone know (realistically) how long a well can actually produce for? (broad question, I know, just looking for an average is all).

Twenty to thirty years for nat gas (don’t know about oil), but there is a marked dropoff after about 6 months and a slow decline from then on.

The price of gas makes more difference to my checks than the decline now that I’m well past the first 6 months and about 4 years into the production under my rights.


21 posted on 03/23/2014 12:08:21 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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To: Kaslin

I worked in the oilfield circa 1982. Trust me, they had fracking back then. So it’s been around for at least 30 years.


22 posted on 03/23/2014 12:08:46 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: Kaslin

Fracking is not going to end unless everyone is willing to live in the stone age, because....

90% of all new wells are fracked. The easy stuff has been drilled in general.

Local fracking bans are just money in the bank that will get withdrawn later.


23 posted on 03/23/2014 12:10:44 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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To: HMS Surprise

The Frackers: The Outrageous Inside Story of the New Billionaire Wildcatters Hardcover
by Gregory Zuckerman (Author)

http://www.amazon.com/Frackers-Outrageous-Inside-Billionaire-Wildcatters/dp/1591846455/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1395601921&sr=1-1&keywords=fracking+the+outrageous+inside+story+of+the+new+billionaire+wildcatters


24 posted on 03/23/2014 12:12:30 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: HMS Surprise

And one more... Before the extraction of oil began off the coast of California the beaches were all but unusable in some areas because of the “natural” seepage that occurred. Now, because the oil is being removed from offshore? Pristine beaches. Fracking no doubt also removes oil from other underground water sources.


25 posted on 03/23/2014 12:14:43 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: HMS Surprise

Yep, fracking been around a long time. Over 1.2 million wells have been fracked.

The real breakthrough was when George Mitchell (Mitchell Energy, since sold to Devon) invented the drill bit that allowed drilling down and then turning and going horizontal. My Dad’s family business (with me in the field) staked wells for George in the 60’s and 70’s. He just passed away a couple of years ago.

Shale oil and gas are deposited in somewhat narrow horizontal layers, vertical drilling won’t work. But you can go through miles of the layer by going horizontal. My current paying wells go several miles through 18-21 owners of acreages of various sizes.


26 posted on 03/23/2014 12:17:42 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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To: HMS Surprise

In PA I beleive fracking is more viable due to the ability to drill horizontally.

Was that available back then or is it the reason it is more viable now?

Just curious.


27 posted on 03/23/2014 12:18:53 PM PDT by whodathunkit
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To: whodathunkit

See post 26.


28 posted on 03/23/2014 12:19:25 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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To: whodathunkit

Should have noted that the wells we staked in the 60’s 70’s were vertical. They were west of Ft Worth, Texas.

George Mitchell invented the rotating drill bit later, perhaps in the 90’s, can’t remember. That set off the boom.


29 posted on 03/23/2014 12:21:24 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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To: SaxxonWoods; HMS Surprise

Oh, I see SaxxonWoods just answered my question.

Never mind.


30 posted on 03/23/2014 12:22:10 PM PDT by whodathunkit
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To: Kaslin
Lisa Jackson, the former Director of the EPA and no friend of oil and gas, twice – yes, twice -- testified to Congress that there is not one case of water contamination from fracking.

The debate is over!

31 posted on 03/23/2014 2:09:04 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: mountainlion
Fracking is a figment of the low information crowd.

They get their information from Saudi financed Propaganda.

32 posted on 03/23/2014 2:11:15 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Kaslin

Frack, baby, frack.


33 posted on 03/23/2014 2:42:50 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Kaslin

For those who want to see a 6 minute video showing how horizontal drilling and fracking is done, Northern Gas and Oil has done a great one.

It includes a visual piece on how fresh water aquifers are protected from contamination.

http://www.northernoil.com/drilling-video

Knowledge is power, keep the link and pass it on.


34 posted on 03/23/2014 3:03:31 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom
If it messes up water supply, don’t frack.

Agreed, but you know how those enviros lie. Look at the AGW crowd for example #1. Oh, and remember in the 90s when they were going on about rain forests? At the rate they were said to be destroyed, they've all been gone for years now!

35 posted on 03/23/2014 3:45:53 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Kaslin

I saw on a TeeVee show (network crime drama) that fracking can cause tap water to become flammable. So it MUST be true.


36 posted on 03/23/2014 8:50:08 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: gunsequalfreedom
So in other words you didn't read the article. Typical.
37 posted on 03/23/2014 10:01:02 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: SaxxonWoods

I’m not sure where your wells are. The longest I have worked in the Williston Basin (Bakken formation) were about 12000 ft. of lateral and they were on 2 1/2 section spacings. Most here only go about 9500 ft. of lateral displacement on a 1280 acre spacing with the required setbacks.


38 posted on 03/24/2014 5:57:55 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: TigersEye
The debate is over!

Except among the extremist Gerbil Fracking Deniers.

39 posted on 03/24/2014 6:20:39 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: JimRed
Oh, and remember in the 90s when they were going on about rain forests? At the rate they were said to be destroyed, they've all been gone for years now!

I remember similar scares over:

It's a wonder that anyone gives the envirowhackos any credibility.
40 posted on 03/24/2014 7:13:56 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: SaxxonWoods

I admit that I am ignorant on the geology and business of drilling so tell me if I am wrong. It seems logical that once a fracked well has been exhausted and abandoned that it should start to refill via seepage from the surrounding rocks. What sort of time would be required before such a well would be viable again? Decade, centuries?


41 posted on 03/24/2014 7:34:06 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: hinckley buzzard

What makes you think I did not read the article?


42 posted on 03/24/2014 8:31:17 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Fightin Whitey

It’s over! Over over over!!!


43 posted on 03/24/2014 11:22:24 AM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: SaxxonWoods
George Mitchell invented the rotating drill bit

Your comment interested me, so I tried, unsuccessfully, to find out what George Mitchell invented. Could you fill me in?

44 posted on 03/24/2014 12:22:52 PM PDT by Kennard
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To: gunsequalfreedom

there is no real, not fantasy, incidence of damaging the water sullpy. That is a fantasy dreamed up by the tight assed women t hat are professional liars, clean water advocates that have no water to clean up.


45 posted on 03/24/2014 12:26:32 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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