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Shifts in rainfall, not warming pause, slow sea level rise
Reuters ^ | March 23, 2014 | BY ALISTER DOYLE, ENVIRONMENT CORRESPONDENT

Posted on 03/23/2014 1:21:50 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Heavy rains from the Amazon to Australia have curbed sea level rise so far this century by shifting water from the oceans to land, according to a study that rejects theories that the slowdown is tied to a pause in global warming.

Sea level rise has been one of the clearest signs of climate change - water expands as it warms and parts of Greenland and Antarctica are thawing, along with glaciers from the Himalayas to the Alps.

But in a puzzle to climate scientists, the rate slowed to 2.4 millimeters (0.09 inch) a year from 2003 to 2011 from 3.4 mm from 1994-2002, heartening skeptics who doubt that deep cuts are needed in mankind's rising greenhouse gas emissions.

Writing in the journal Nature Climate Change on Sunday, experts said the rate from 2003-2011 would have been 3.3 mm a year when excluding natural shifts led by an unusually high number of La Nina weather events that cool the surface of the Pacific Ocean and cause more rain over land.

"There is no slowing in the rate of sea level rise" after accounting for the natural variations, lead author Anny Cazenave-Wanker of the Laboratory for Studies in Geophysics and Spatial Oceanography in Toulouse, France, told Reuters.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: climategate; hoax; socialism; weather

1 posted on 03/23/2014 1:21:50 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

lolwhuteva!


2 posted on 03/23/2014 1:23:23 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The average sea level rise since measurements began back in the mid-1800s is about 0.5mm per year.


3 posted on 03/23/2014 1:24:21 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Once the next ice age kicks in sea level will drop about 500 feet which is the edge of the continental shelves. This is where it was during the middle of the last one.


4 posted on 03/23/2014 1:25:42 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Sea level was about 20 to 30 feet higher about eight or nine thousand years ago because it was a bit warmer.


5 posted on 03/23/2014 1:26:28 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

And during the last ice age, the Sahara desert was covered with grasslands and lakes.


6 posted on 03/23/2014 1:27:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Why doesn't the article also mention how all the world's rivers have stopped flowing? That alone explains why there's less water in the ocean.
7 posted on 03/23/2014 1:28:23 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA (A sarcasm tag would be insulting to the reader.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Heavy rains mean less water in the ocean? Where is that rain falling? Is the surface of the planet more water than land? Yeah, I thought so.


8 posted on 03/23/2014 1:29:33 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy

And I thought that most of the water that fell on the land eventually made its way back to the ocean. Silly me.
And most of the water that fell landed in the ocean to begin with. Pretty soon they will tell us that aliens are secretly stealing the missing heat, but higher taxes can fix that too.


9 posted on 03/23/2014 1:33:25 PM PDT by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Heavy rains from the Amazon to Australia have curbed sea level rise so far this century by shifting water from the oceans to land, according to a study that rejects theories that the slowdown is tied to a pause in global warming.

Well this is a good thing isn’t it?

Wouldn’t this be a reversal of the desertification of the globe that we all used to hear about?

Desertification was one of the HORRORS of global warming that had to be stopped.

OH NO billions were going to starve because all of the arable land was going to dry up. Now they are saying that the reverse is a BAD THING?

This is GOOD NEWS!!!

10 posted on 03/23/2014 1:36:21 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“The reason we weren’t lying before, is because we came up with a cockamamie explanation which is an even bigger whopper, which justifies why what we said before wasn’t true. So you should still trust us, not only on what we said before, but also what we’re saying now.”


11 posted on 03/23/2014 1:37:47 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: coloradan

‘zactly!


12 posted on 03/23/2014 1:38:25 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

“Why doesn’t the article also mention how all the world’s rivers have stopped flowing? That alone explains why there’s less water in the ocean.”

They’re saving that one in case the more rain means less ocean doesn’t fly.


13 posted on 03/23/2014 1:40:50 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Next they will blame it on a shortage of cow farts


14 posted on 03/23/2014 1:42:55 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Why don’t these people ever run out of chicken little theories-do they have certifiable lunatics on the payroll dreaming them up?


15 posted on 03/23/2014 1:47:28 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
the trend is constant since 1870...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Trends_in_global_average_absolute_sea_level,_1870-2008_%28US_EPA%29.png

16 posted on 03/23/2014 1:48:31 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: chris37

Duh, now let’s see. CA is still in a drought because there’s not enough rain landing on the land, meaning there’s not enough runoff to fill it’s reservoirs and rivers, meaning there’s not enough runoff in the rivers for the fish in the rivers and oceans. Then, duh, duh, more rain over land will mean the land will (horrors !!) capture all that water, meaning there will even be less for the oceans and fishies.


17 posted on 03/23/2014 1:49:52 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Wait! What?

Global warming is causing a rise in sea levels but a pause in global warming won't cause a pause in the rise of sea levels?

And any pause is caused by something else?

How doe that work?

18 posted on 03/23/2014 1:50:29 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Golly gee whiz! Al must have known this when he recently purchased his OCEANSIDE ESTATE complete with 6 (six) carbon-producing fireplaces.

He’s a mind reader too! Who would have thought . . . .


19 posted on 03/23/2014 1:52:11 PM PDT by SusaninOhio
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To: chris37

LOL do they read the crap they write


20 posted on 03/23/2014 1:56:55 PM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

But then he know the oceans weren’t rising because he bought a beachfront mansion in CA.


21 posted on 03/23/2014 1:57:34 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: chris37

If I am not mistaken the rivers flow into the ocean?


22 posted on 03/23/2014 1:59:48 PM PDT by IC Ken
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Well, this must explain where all the water from the melted ice caps went...


23 posted on 03/23/2014 2:09:49 PM PDT by struggle
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Why doesn't the article also mention how all the world's rivers have stopped flowing? That alone explains why there's less water in the ocean.

Down is the new up. Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

In other news, Hillary Clinton has been named the new President to follow Obama based on a consensus of Global Warming pseudo-scientists.

24 posted on 03/23/2014 2:13:23 PM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Cheney and Halliburton stole the water from the ocean!


25 posted on 03/23/2014 2:14:15 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Watta bunch of CRAP!

Try a little “truth”

>http://english.pravda.ru/science/earth/16-03-2014/127115-global_warming-0/<

How modern global warming science took form


26 posted on 03/23/2014 2:17:30 PM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Read to this point in the article:
water expands as it warms
then realized the article was a lie.
27 posted on 03/23/2014 2:18:23 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“But in a puzzle to climate scientists, the rate slowed to 2.4 millimeters (0.09 inch) a year from 2003 to 2011 from 3.4 mm from 1994-2002, heartening skeptics who doubt that deep cuts are needed in mankind’s rising greenhouse gas emissions.”

While they are heartened by hopes that global warming is true. How messed up is that?


28 posted on 03/23/2014 2:19:08 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Another of N excuses ( where N is a rapidly increasing number) where the D students of science explain why none of their predictions on climate change have proved true.

Heck, they cannot even approach the success of a guess.

And, of course, low IQ journalists eat it up.


29 posted on 03/23/2014 2:24:05 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Da Coyote

My best guess is it boils back to matter being unable to be created or destroyed by man.


30 posted on 03/23/2014 2:28:54 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I know why the sea level stopped rising ...


31 posted on 03/23/2014 2:30:42 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Claim That Sea Level Is Rising Is a Total Fraud

Sea levels began to rise 18k years ago at the end of the last glacial period. They have risen about 135 meters since then which is an average of 7.5 millimeters per year. That is an average of 750 mm per century (29.5 inches) which is far more than the average over the last century.

From 1880 to 2000 sea level rose about 20 cm or just under 8 inches. Far far less than the nearly 30 inches per century average over the last 18,000 years.

32 posted on 03/23/2014 2:31:51 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Mexico City is settling due to groundwater withdrawn from the aquifer beneath it. Multiply this world wide and there you have it. Sea level rise is man active driven. Stop drinking and peeing everyone. πDhearty al.
33 posted on 03/23/2014 2:55:51 PM PDT by Recompennation (Constitutional protection for all not ju st selectively for Democrats.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You just don’t understand. Science is complicated. Just believe us. We know what is best and stop asking questions already.

Signed, AGW Scientist.


34 posted on 03/23/2014 2:58:33 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Alberta's Child
Eeewwww. Fish poop in the sea. :)
35 posted on 03/23/2014 2:59:46 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“But in a puzzle to climate scientists, the rate slowed to 2.4 millimeters (0.09 inch) a year from 2003 to 2011 from 3.4 mm from 1994-2002,”

Obama said if you elect him he would stop the seas ...


36 posted on 03/23/2014 3:07:00 PM PDT by TexasGator
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Eeewwww. Fish poop in the sea. :)

That ain't all they do...

37 posted on 03/23/2014 3:28:08 PM PDT by henkster (I don't like bossy women telling me what words I can't use.)
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To: Texan5
Anny Wanker seems to come up with a lot of these stories. Her name is very fitting for her. It would be better if it was, Anny Global Warming Wanker.
38 posted on 03/23/2014 3:46:14 PM PDT by peeps36 (I'm Not A Racist, I Hate Douchebags of All Colors)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The real problem they are trying to cover up is that the missing heat (missing from the atmosphere) is supposedly in the ocean waiting to pounce (it can’t, but that’s another story). If the missing heat is going into the ocean, then the ocean must expand and sea level must rise more than observed. But it’s not. So they are desperately trying to come up with any possible explanation for why the sea level is not accelerating.


39 posted on 03/23/2014 3:50:56 PM PDT by palmer (There's someone in my lead but it's not me)
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To: no-to-illegals
"water expands as it warms" then realized the article was a lie.

Why? I realize that the statement isn't always true, but I believe it is true for most temperatures.

40 posted on 03/23/2014 3:56:08 PM PDT by palmer (There's someone in my lead but it's not me)
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To: palmer

Water turn to steam if expanded. Water frozen expands but only in appearance for once melted returns to normal state. Simple experiment Example ... Fill a glass with water. Add ice to rim of glass to rim. Walk away. Ice melts but will not overflow the glass.


41 posted on 03/23/2014 4:01:53 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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should have added ... can place ice above the rim of glass but glass will not overflow once the ice melts.


42 posted on 03/23/2014 4:28:55 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
These morons never quit, do they?

They are DESPERATE to keep the Gorebull Warming dodge alive. It is making far too many people far too much money, to let it fall to something like actual scientific fact.

43 posted on 03/23/2014 6:09:53 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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