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The Catholic Roots of Obama’s Activism (Marxist roots, plus first name of 1988 girlfriend?)
New York Times ^ | March 22, 2014 | JASON HOROWITZ

Posted on 03/23/2014 3:01:21 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

This Thursday, Mr. Obama will meet with Pope Francis at the Vatican after a three-decade divergence with the church. By the late 1980s, the Catholic hierarchy had taken a conservative turn that de-emphasized social engagement and elevated the culture wars that would eventually cast Mr. Obama as an abortion-supporting enemy. Mr. Obama, who went on to find his own faith with the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.’s Trinity United Church of Christ, drifted from his youthful, church-backed activism to become a pragmatic politician and the president with a terrorist “kill list.” The meeting this week is a potential point of confluence.

A White House accustomed to archbishop antagonists hopes the president will find a strategic ally and kindred spirit in a pope who preaches a gospel of social justice and inclusion. Mr. Obama’s old friends in the priesthood pray that Francis will discover a president freed from concerns about re-election and willing to rededicate himself to the vulnerable.

But the Vatican — aware that Mr. Obama has far more to gain from the encounter than the pope does, and wary of being used for American political consumption — warns that this will hardly be like the 1982 meeting at which President Ronald Reagan and Pope John Paul II agreed to fight Communism in Eastern Europe.

As in many reunions, expectations, and the possibility for disappointment, run high.

As Mr. Obama helped expand the program from Catholic parishes to megachurches and Protestant congregations, he felt that need slaked by the prevailing black liberation theology, inspired by the civil rights movement and preached by African-American ministers like Mr. Wright of Trinity. The notion that Jesus delivered salvation to communities that expressed faith through good deeds suited Mr. Obama’s instincts — and perhaps his interests.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: alinski; indonesia; kenyanbornmuzzie; liberationtheology; naturalborncitizen; obama; pakistan; romancatholicism
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No mention that Black Liberation Theology is both Marxist and racist...
1 posted on 03/23/2014 3:01:21 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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such total BS....traditional Catholics believe in marriage between a man and woman, they believe in children, lots of them, they believe abortion is murder....

I'm sure whatever happens it'll be twisted by a weak pope intent on being popular, not Catholic..

2 posted on 03/23/2014 3:04:16 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Seizethecarp

Nor that Obama has set himself against the fundamental teachings of the RC church.
This will be a bad move for Obama.
The Pope will bring wrath upon Obama.


3 posted on 03/23/2014 3:07:16 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Hey zippy have a candid conversation about abortion


4 posted on 03/23/2014 3:09:43 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (Im missing a jumbo jet with 235 passengers has anyone seen it?)
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To: Louis Foxwell
The Pope will bring wrath upon Obama.

Don't hold your breath on that one.
6 posted on 03/23/2014 3:10:56 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: Seizethecarp

Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?

I DO.


7 posted on 03/23/2014 3:10:56 PM PDT by Ray76 (Profit from the mistakes of others, you'll never live long enough to make them all yourself.)
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To: LucyT; null and void; Cold Case Posse Supporter; Flotsam_Jetsome; circumbendibus; Fantasywriter; ...

NY Times tries to explain to readers how Catholic enemy Barry could have been nurtured in the “social justice” wing of the church and how to spin his meeting with Pope Francis.

There may be a revelation that Barry’s girlfriend in 1988 was named Saila. In the article there is this reference to Barry dating “another woman”:

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“He was a man of integrity, very much to my disappointment,” joked Cynthia Norris, then the director of the Chicago Archdiocese’s black Catholics office, who found the young Mr. Obama appealing. The future president, who was dating another woman, did turn to Ms. Norris for a Harvard Law School recommendation, and kept in touch during a trip to Europe in 1988.

“I wander around Paris, the most beautiful, alluring, maddening city I’ve ever seen; one is tempted to chuck the whole organizing/political business and be a painter” on the banks of the Seine, Mr. Obama scribbled to Ms. Norris, along with “Love, Barack,” on one side of a postcard. On the other was a picture of the Cathedral of Notre-Dame.

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The picture image of the postcard is provided and it mentions that Ms Norris something in his mailbox (probably money) and he says “I trust Saila retrieved it.”

The reference to “Saila” by name was left out of the text of the article but reference to Barry dating “another woman” was included directly in context!

I couldn’t make out the “S” in Saila at first and didn’t recognize it as a name, male or female, but after an internet search it is a very rare girls name. The rarity should aid in finding out who this person was.

See:

http://www.babycenter.com/baby-names-saila-222895.htm

Saila

Gender: Girl;

“Popularity Rank Among BabyCenter Members”

http://www.babycenter.com/babyNameAllPops.htm?babyNameId=222895


8 posted on 03/23/2014 3:11:28 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp; null and void; Velveeta; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; Myrddin; MamaDearest; autumnraine; ..
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NY Times tries to explain to readers how Catholic enemy Barry could have been nurtured in the “social justice” wing of the church and how to spin his meeting with Pope Francis.

There may be a revelation that Barry’s girlfriend in 1988 was named Saila. In the article there is this reference to Barry dating “another woman”

0key-dokey.

Thanks, Seizethecarp.

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9 posted on 03/23/2014 3:18:45 PM PDT by LucyT (If you're NOT paranoid, you don't know what's going on.)
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Yeah, the pro-abort, pro-homosexual marriage Barry will find the Pope in agreement. Yeah.


10 posted on 03/23/2014 3:23:34 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Seizethecarp

Horse pucky. Some forgotten girlfriend—if there was such a person—26 years ago?

The NY Times never misses a chance to bash the Catholic Church, because they know the Church is probably the most implacable enemy of their political dreams—abortion, gay marriage, sexualization of kindergartners, and all the rest of it.

Yes, there are a lot of pretty feeble bishops out there, who could do their jobs a lot better, but the church is still their main enemy.


11 posted on 03/23/2014 3:28:15 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Probably another composite character, just like the person using the Obama identity.


12 posted on 03/23/2014 3:29:36 PM PDT by Ray76 (Profit from the mistakes of others, you'll never live long enough to make them all yourself.)
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To: Seizethecarp

What nationality or ethnic group uses the name?


13 posted on 03/23/2014 3:34:07 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: hoosiermama

“What nationality or ethnic group uses the name?”

I haven’t had time to look, yet but if it was African American I would expect there would be thousands with “creative” variants.

In the Maraniss bio Barry was supposedly still dating white women at this time, IIRC.

There is only one comment from a mom with a “blonde haired, blue-eyed” girl at this site:

http://www.babycenter.com/baby-names-saila-222895.htm

bexyjean says

“I named my daughter Saila in 2003. She is 6 now, and everyone says “what a pretty name”. She is blonde haired, blue-eyed. Sometimes people miss pronounce it or misspell it, eventhough it is phonetical, but it is usually not much of a problem. I’m really happy with the name choice.”


14 posted on 03/23/2014 3:43:39 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp
This visit may just be for show and political gain on obama's part, but what he brings upon himself will depend upon him and his heart, as well as his intentions.

For his sake, I hope he can find some humble to wear for the occasion. I doubt bemused arrogance will go well for him.

15 posted on 03/23/2014 3:44:22 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: LucyT

Sadiq
Malik
Malia

Saila??

I’m confused. ;)


16 posted on 03/23/2014 3:45:39 PM PDT by maggief
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To: hoosiermama

Indian name mainly, it seems.


17 posted on 03/23/2014 3:45:39 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Seizethecarp

The only thing “Catholic” about Obama’s “social engagement” is the fact that the pro-abortion, homosexual Cardinal Joseph Bernardin was involved in supporting Obama’s early career in Chicago.


18 posted on 03/23/2014 3:47:37 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Louis Foxwell

Unlikely.

This Pope knows or cares nothing about North America. His most trusted U.S. advisers are abortionist-coddling bishops, Wuerl and O’Malley especially.


19 posted on 03/23/2014 3:49:27 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Seizethecarp

Ignorant tripe from a used rag of a paper.


20 posted on 03/23/2014 3:50:36 PM PDT by grimalkin (We are a nation under God. If we ever forget this, we are a nation gone under. -Ronald Reagan)
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