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Venice votes to split from Italy as 89% of the city's residents opt to form a new independent state
Daily Mail ^ | 03/23/2014 | By HANNAH ROBERTS IN ROME

Posted on 03/23/2014 4:45:39 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Venetians have voted overwhelmingly for their own sovereign state in a ‘referendum’ on independence from Italy.

Inspired by Scotland’s separatist ambitions, 89 per cent of the residents of the lagoon city and its surrounding area, opted to break away from Italy in an unofficial ballot.

The proposed ‘Repubblica Veneta’ would include the five million inhabitants of the Veneto region and could later expand to include parts of Lombardy, Trentino and Friuli-Venezia Giulia.

The floating city has only been part of Italy for 150 years. The 1000 year–old democratic Serenissima Repubblica di Venezia, was quashed by Napoleon and was subsumed into Italy in 1866.

Wealthy Venetians, under mounting financial pressure in the economic crisis, have rallied in their thousands, after growing tired of supporting Italy’s poor and crime ridden Mezzogiorno south, through high taxation.

Activists have been working closely with the SNP on their joint agendas, even travelling to Scotland alongside Catalonians and Basque separatists to take part in pro independence rallies.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: autonomy; basques; catalonia; europeanunion; friuliveneziagiulia; independence; italy; lombardy; repubblicaveneta; scotland; secession; spain; taxhaven; trentino; unitedkingdom; veneto; venice
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Crimea, Venice, what's next -- Catalonia from Spain, and Scotland from the UK.... and (God forbid), Texas ??
1 posted on 03/23/2014 4:45:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

MORE HERE:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/venice-votes-break-rest-italy-article-1.1730223

Venice votes to break away from rest of Italy, create ‘Repubblica Veneta’


2 posted on 03/23/2014 4:46:29 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (question is this)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nobody went after Venice like Russia went after Crimea.


3 posted on 03/23/2014 4:48:44 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This will never happen in the U.S., since they won’t give up federal money. Unless they can get more a foreign aid.


4 posted on 03/23/2014 4:49:58 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: SeekAndFind
Venice could become another Monaco.



Interesting. I wonder how this will play out.
5 posted on 03/23/2014 4:51:05 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: SeekAndFind

Being a part of a large country is necessary when you worry about war. No one worries about war anymore, and Europe could not even defend itself if attack. So why not break off? “Every man to his tent”. (Come to think of it, that didn’t work out too well, either.)


6 posted on 03/23/2014 4:51:24 PM PDT by impactplayer
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To: HiTech RedNeck
According to ZERO HEDGE

Venice pays EUR71bn in taxes and receives only EUR21bn in services and investment.

I believe Catalonia also has the same issue with Spain.
7 posted on 03/23/2014 4:52:07 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (question is this)
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To: SeekAndFind
The proposed ‘Repubblica Veneta’ would include the five million inhabitants of the Veneto region and could later expand to include parts of Lombardy, Trentino and Friuli-Venezia Giulia.

Does anybody know if the USAF base at Aviano would be included in this region?

8 posted on 03/23/2014 4:52:58 PM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: SeekAndFind

Garibaldi must be doing 360s in his grave.


9 posted on 03/23/2014 4:55:45 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I hope NeoEuropa, everything north and east of pennsylvania will go it alone .....I hope


10 posted on 03/23/2014 4:56:15 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Wealthy Venetians, under mounting financial pressure in the economic crisis, have rallied in their thousands, after growing tired of supporting Italy’s poor and crime ridden Mezzogiorno south, through high taxation.”

Coming soon to a State near you!


11 posted on 03/23/2014 4:56:47 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: VanDeKoik; Chode

They only become another Monaco if the can get a Grand Prix. The teams will have to use the full wet tyres though.


12 posted on 03/23/2014 4:57:18 PM PDT by henkster (I don't like bossy women telling me what words I can't use.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cash cows are about to go maverick.


13 posted on 03/23/2014 4:57:35 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“...Venice pays EUR71bn in taxes and receives only EUR21bn in services and investment.

I believe Catalonia also has the same issue with Spain.”
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I wouldn’t blame the Venetians and others in surrounding areas from seceding and forming their own state. Unfortunately, the “takers” in the south & center of Italy likely would not let them leave since the south cannot afford to lose its “makers” and the wealth they create.


14 posted on 03/23/2014 4:58:20 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: SeekAndFind

Wow!! We will be in Venice in 4 weeks and 6 weeks....twice....hope there’s no RIOTING!! I HATE when gondolas CLASH!!


15 posted on 03/23/2014 4:58:49 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Venetians have voted overwhelmingly for their own sovereign state. ...”

What about the blind (or is that blinds)?


16 posted on 03/23/2014 4:59:18 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA (A sarcasm tag would be insulting to the reader.)
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To: henkster

WATER POLO TEAMS!!


17 posted on 03/23/2014 4:59:50 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: henkster
LOLOL!!! full wet's indeed...
18 posted on 03/23/2014 5:00:28 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Ann Archy

You’ll need visas by then.


19 posted on 03/23/2014 5:00:33 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Badwhereas things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Federal ruling, ‘huge victory,’ paves way for states to ensure only US citizens can vote
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/03/20/federal-ruling-huge-victory-paves-way-for-states-to-ensure-only-us-citizens-can-vote-107395


20 posted on 03/23/2014 5:00:54 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: SeekAndFind

As I remember, Italy has not been a country for any long period, they were all city states before. Venice is just going back to where it was before so could Florence, Rome and etc.


21 posted on 03/23/2014 5:01:26 PM PDT by Vinylly (?)
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To: Ann Archy

RE: Wow!! We will be in Venice in 4 weeks and 6 weeks....twice....hope there’s no RIOTING!! I HATE when gondolas CLASH!!

Well, if this goes through, your next question would be -— will Visas to Italy be honored by Venice?


22 posted on 03/23/2014 5:05:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (question is this)
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To: SeekAndFind

Go, Texas, Go!


23 posted on 03/23/2014 5:05:37 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (2001-2008: "Dissent Is Patriotism!" 2009-2016: "Dissent Is Racism!")
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To: SeekAndFind
The floating city has only been part of Italy for 150 years.

Actually it's 148 years.

So much for the Risorgimento. Mazzini, Garibaldi, Cavour, and Victor Emmanuel II must be spinning in their graves. (Not that they were nice people, mind you.)

24 posted on 03/23/2014 5:05:52 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: nickcarraway

Perhaps a state which receives less from doc than it pays in


25 posted on 03/23/2014 5:06:42 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: SeekAndFind

Why God forbid Texas?! The conservative states should secede. It would be excellent to ditch the east and west coast.


26 posted on 03/23/2014 5:08:21 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: SeekAndFind

No VISAs are necessary in Italy.


27 posted on 03/23/2014 5:08:33 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We in America don’t think about this very much. But, there are distinct regions of America, such as Texas, in which people don’t feel they have much in common with people in Boston, Cambridge, Berkeley, Upper West Side of Manhattan, etc.

Even within states, Chicago is a different world from downstate Illinois, upstate New York is different from the New York City area, etc.

Stay tuned. This trend could come to America.

If we split into a liberal America and a conservative America, some major issues would go away. Because critical numbers of people in each area would agree about abortion, homosexual marriage, the role of government, the size and scope of government, school policies, tax policies, and other areas of disagreement between liberals and conservatives today.


28 posted on 03/23/2014 5:09:40 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (as)
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To: SeekAndFind
I believe Catalonia also has the same issue with Spain.

The nationalism of Catalonia and the other regions of Spain is, like the Celtic varieties, hard Left wing.

29 posted on 03/23/2014 5:09:51 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Next is conservative rural districts seceding from liberal controlling cities.


30 posted on 03/23/2014 5:10:51 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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"The nationalism of Catalonia and the other regions of Spain is....hard Left wing."

But it is after all their country.

Let them foul their own nest as they please.

31 posted on 03/23/2014 5:15:21 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: VanDeKoik

Will they bring back the Doge?

CC


32 posted on 03/23/2014 5:19:34 PM PDT by Captain Compassion
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To: SeekAndFind
Why weren't there a similar percentage of independent-minded people in Los Angeles to vote to separate San Pedro, Echo Park, and the San Fernando Valley from Los Angeles?

Why weren't there a similar percentage of independent-minded people in Colorado to vote to separate the sensible parts from the Democrat-trending parts?

Even if majorities had voted for secession in these American cases there most likely would have been law suits, etc. to prevent the splits, but it would have sent a message to the idiots in charge.

Have Americans already become Euroweenies?

33 posted on 03/23/2014 5:21:04 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Would love to see that happen. We are no longer “united states”.


34 posted on 03/23/2014 5:23:44 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

That’s been happening in Atlanta / Fulton County for the last few years. Several areas have seceded from the city because they were paying taxes used to buy votes in the poor areas.


35 posted on 03/23/2014 5:29:35 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
Have you seen this proposed referendum in California?

CALIFORNIA VOTERS MAY DECIDE TO BREAK UP THE STATE


36 posted on 03/23/2014 5:29:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (question is this)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/016158.html

A PROPOSAL TO DIVIDE THE UNITED STATES INTO TWO COUNTRIES


37 posted on 03/23/2014 5:31:08 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Pan_Yan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secession_in_New_York

There are or have been several movements regarding secession in the U.S. state of New York.

The most prominent amongst these have been for a state called Long Island, consisting of everything on the island outside New York City; a state called Niagara, the western counties of New York state; the northern counties of New York state called Upstate New York; making the city of New York a state; a proposal for a new Peconic County on eastern Long Island; and for the boroughs of Staten Island and Brooklyn to secede from New York City.


38 posted on 03/23/2014 5:33:48 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (question is this)
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To: SeekAndFind

Relatively conservative Northeast Philly has been trying to secede from Philadelphia for decades, now it’s too late. The section 8 housing has contaminated it and the smart ones have already moved out.


39 posted on 03/23/2014 5:34:33 PM PDT by Phillyred
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To: SeekAndFind
Northern NY has been trying to figure a way to get rid of the city for years...this might work LOL!
40 posted on 03/23/2014 5:34:38 PM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: SeekAndFind

Thought I checked for a NY post...missed by the time I was typing, I guess.


41 posted on 03/23/2014 5:36:49 PM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: SeekAndFind; Revolting cat!; GeronL

How long before Putin or the “Palestinians” claim them?


42 posted on 03/23/2014 5:47:32 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The “lagoon city” has about 60,000 residents. The entire metropolitan area about 1.6 million.

Where did these 5 million come from? And how the heck do 89 percent of 5 million people agree on anything?

Something is not right about this.


43 posted on 03/23/2014 5:48:02 PM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: Ann Archy

Venice is beautiful in November when I visited 3 years ago. Less tourists and the waiters treat you better. But be prepared for the smell. It’s like the entire city is so old the rivers are full of sewage. I always thought Napoli (Campania region) and southern Italy were good. (Our family, great granddad’s side is from there :)


44 posted on 03/23/2014 5:48:59 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: SeekAndFind

I think venice will do just fine on its own. I like being in venice and If venice goes look for Mestre to follow within weeks and become part of Venice.


45 posted on 03/23/2014 5:49:23 PM PDT by barmag25 (There is nothing that a man needs that he can't find in the North Georgia mountains.)
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To: SeekAndFind

And Russia was criticized for the 97% Crimean referendum result.

How is this massive super-majority in Venice any different? Or is this also a so-called Soviet-style outcome?


46 posted on 03/23/2014 5:58:57 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: VanDeKoik
Venice could become another Monaco.

Or the next San Marino.

47 posted on 03/23/2014 6:00:14 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Viennacon
I like your style?

48 posted on 03/23/2014 6:00:46 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

In Veneto veritas. Repubblica Veneta ping.


49 posted on 03/23/2014 6:14:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SeekAndFind

arm pit ping


50 posted on 03/23/2014 6:32:58 PM PDT by Mercat
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