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DOJ to Supreme Court: Killing Human Embryo in Womb is Not Abortion
Cybercast News Service ^ | March 23, 2014 - 9:46 PM | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 03/23/2014 8:19:43 PM PDT by Olog-hai

The U.S. Justice Department is telling the Supreme Court that killing a human embryo by preventing the embryo from implanting in his or her mother’s uterus is not an “abortion” and, thus, drugs that kill embryos this way are not “abortion-inducing” drugs.

On Tuesday, the Supreme Court will hear oral arguments in the case of Sebelius v. Hobby Lobby. The crux of the administration’s argument in this case is that when Christians form a corporation they give up the right to freely exercise their religion—n.b. live according to their Christian beliefs—in the way they run their business.

It is in the context of this case, that the administration is making its argument that killing an embryo seeking to implant in his or her mother’s womb is not an abortion.

The dispute involves a regulation that Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius issued under the Affordable Care Act. This regulation says that virtually all health insurance plans must cover, without any fees or co-pay, all FDA-approved “contraceptives.” …

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; abortion; babykillers; doj; hobbylobby; liberalagenda; scotus; sebelius
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1 posted on 03/23/2014 8:19:43 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

The WHAT department?


2 posted on 03/23/2014 8:25:43 PM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Olog-hai

“when Christians form a corporation they give up the right to freely exercise their religion”

Sounds totally like something the Founders would say!

/sarc

Actually sounds more like Mussolini


3 posted on 03/23/2014 8:26:15 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Olog-hai

There was a time I’d have had faith in SCOTUS for a rational decision. That thinking went out the window a few years ago.


4 posted on 03/23/2014 8:26:20 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Olog-hai

In exactly the same way, violently attacking white people out of hatred is not a hate crime.


5 posted on 03/23/2014 8:27:15 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Olog-hai
If it's not an abortion, then it's not covered by Roe v. Wade, right? So we can simply outlaw it.
6 posted on 03/23/2014 8:28:48 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Viennacon

“when Christians form a corporation they give up the right to freely exercise their religion”

“when liberals form a party they give up the right to freely exercise their religion”

Same logic.


7 posted on 03/23/2014 8:30:26 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: TBP
IIRC by the time the new life reaches the womb he or she is called a morula and upon implantation is then a fetus. But the jumbling of terms is a typical strategy of the progressive vermin.
8 posted on 03/23/2014 8:33:33 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Olog-hai

Dick Holder makes it up as he goes along.


9 posted on 03/23/2014 8:35:36 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Olog-hai

Preventing a ball of about 150 undifferentiated cells from implanting really is not the same as abortion. That tiny ball of cells, or blastocyst, has no organs, no brain tissue that would make it aware or able to feel. Most blastocysts do not implant anyway.

On the other hand, abortion is the deliberate killing of an embryo that is perfectly capable of feeling the pain of being killed. The brain begins to form in week 3 when the neural tube forms; by 5 weeks, it has taken on its role as master controller of the body and processes information about its environment.

The court was actually using science to make its decision.


10 posted on 03/23/2014 8:41:09 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Olog-hai

No, it’s murder.


11 posted on 03/23/2014 8:45:20 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: exDemMom

That’s not scientific. One cannot determine if a human spirit resides in a blastocyst or not by scientific methods, so to assume something based on a set of observations (no circulatory or central nervous systems have formed yet, but will, for example) is also not scientific.


12 posted on 03/23/2014 8:45:32 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

13 posted on 03/23/2014 8:54:22 PM PDT by Slyfox (When Jesus sees a momma holding her little baby, it reminds him of his own momma.)
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"killing an embryo seeking to implant in his or her mother’s womb is not an abortion."

No, it is murder.

14 posted on 03/23/2014 9:01:29 PM PDT by thegrump (It is who we are. It is what we do. Live for nothing or die for something !)
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To: Former Fetus

the just-us dept


15 posted on 03/23/2014 9:08:13 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Viennacon

then how do muslims get exceptions for their religious beliefs?


16 posted on 03/23/2014 9:09:03 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: TBP

if it’s not abortion then we don’t have to fund it. we can also cut that money out of planned parentgood’s federal take, too.


17 posted on 03/23/2014 9:10:07 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Olog-hai

I do not consider what a pre-implantation blastocyst *might* become at some point in the future—I only consider its present characteristics. A person really only exists within a functional brain; without a living brain, there simply is no person.

Science does not and cannot answer questions of the soul. I would say that the Bible does not truly answer that, either. There was a time when the soul was considered to appear at the time of quickening—about 3 to 5 months into pregnancy, when the mother feels movement for the first time. And we now know that the embryo moves long before the mother feels it. You could just as well deem birth the point at which the soul appears, and justify it biblically.


18 posted on 03/23/2014 9:13:55 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom

That’s not scientific either. That’s personal prejudice. All science can do is observe, not confirm biases whether personal or political. “I don’t know” are the three most honest words in science.


19 posted on 03/23/2014 9:16:45 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

pathetic (and Satanic) ...super pathetic....
(and we’re paying for this rot?)


20 posted on 03/23/2014 9:17:36 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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