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Aborted babies incinerated to heat UK hospitals
The Telegraph ^ | 3/24/2014 | Sarah Knapton

Posted on 03/24/2014 2:08:34 AM PDT by markomalley

The bodies of thousands of aborted and miscarried babies were incinerated as clinical waste, with some even used to heat hospitals, an investigation has found.

Ten NHS trusts have admitted burning foetal remains alongside other rubbish while two others used the bodies in ‘waste-to-energy’ plants which generate power for heat.

Last night the Department of Health issued an instant ban on the practice which health minister Dr Dan Poulter branded ‘totally unacceptable.’

At least 15,500 foetal remains were incinerated by 27 NHS trusts over the last two years alone, Channel 4’s Dispatches discovered.

The programme, which will air tonight, found that parents who lose children in early pregnancy were often treated without compassion and were not consulted about what they wanted to happen to the remains.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: abortion; atrocity; moralabsolutes
Last night the Department of Health issued an instant ban on the practice which health minister Dr Dan Poulter branded ‘totally unacceptable.’

Translation: "We got caught."

And in related news:


1 posted on 03/24/2014 2:08:34 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Hitler would be so proud.


2 posted on 03/24/2014 2:12:10 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: markomalley

sick


3 posted on 03/24/2014 2:12:56 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: markomalley

how eternity gets heated is more pertinent than how hospitals get heated. imho.


4 posted on 03/24/2014 2:14:43 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: markomalley

Look for this to come to Obumboland in the future.
Society is going to Hell in a hand-basket.


5 posted on 03/24/2014 2:36:42 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: markomalley

Sickening and demented doesn’t even begin to describe it. The UK is sinking into oblivion at an alarming rate.


6 posted on 03/24/2014 2:41:18 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: markomalley

God help us.


7 posted on 03/24/2014 2:53:03 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: markomalley

So it’s ok to kill the babies and consider them medical waste, but not ok to dispose of them as medical waste?

You can’t have it both ways. Why would it be totally unacceptable, if it’s not a human being?


8 posted on 03/24/2014 3:04:29 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: markomalley

Should not be much longer and a trumpet will sound and woe to those who do not hear it.


9 posted on 03/24/2014 3:27:59 AM PDT by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
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To: factoryrat

With no moral compass, and no degree of indignation over the abject failure of any kind of oversight into such atrocities, the world quickly forgets the scenes from Auschwitz and Treblinka.

There were numerous photographs taken of the conditions there, for one purpose only. As General Eisenhower said at the time, someday there will be some son-of-a-bitch who will deny that any such thing ever happened.

It happened, and now, in Great Britain, it is still happening.


10 posted on 03/24/2014 3:55:27 AM PDT by alloysteel (Obamacare - Death and Taxes now available online. One-stop shopping at its best!)
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To: markomalley

Read some of the psycho comments after the Telegraph article. Some people think it’s just great recycling - sort of like turning human bones of Jews into furniture as happened during the Holocaust. Surely, we will all pay for these atrocities...


11 posted on 03/24/2014 4:17:19 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

From my perspective, the British Empire was the original Third Reich and lasted for hundreds of years, perhaps not the 1000 years A-dolf wanted. Glad to see the Brits vicious tendencies still show themselves once in awhile /sarc.


12 posted on 03/24/2014 4:30:42 AM PDT by Tuketu (The Dim Platform is splinters bound by crazy glue., The Tea Party is the solvent)
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To: markomalley

That and welcoming bearded savages into their country. There is no hope for Britain.


13 posted on 03/24/2014 4:33:22 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: markomalley

Murdered baby burning.


14 posted on 03/24/2014 4:33:57 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Freedom isn't free; nor is it easy. END ALL TOTALITARIAN ACTIVITY NOW.)
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To: markomalley

Exactly Mark,
Why not just soilent green em?
Society is going to hell.


15 posted on 03/24/2014 4:39:22 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: I want the USA back

How do muslims feel about abortion? I don’t recall seeing anything about their beliefs.


16 posted on 03/24/2014 4:40:33 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: JudyinCanada
So it’s ok to kill the babies and consider them medical waste, but not ok to dispose of them as medical waste? You can’t have it both ways. Why would it be totally unacceptable, if it’s not a human being?

Bingo. Why get all squemish about what is done with "medical waste". That's why I find the slogan that liberals want abortion to be "legal and rare" so disingenuous. Why should abortion be rare, if it is not a human life? What difference does it make? Liberal want to avoid the consequences of their actions by not acknowledging their actions.

17 posted on 03/24/2014 4:41:16 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: markomalley

Immediately what I thought of.

Life is becoming very cheap.


18 posted on 03/24/2014 4:56:24 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: markomalley

How evil can they get! God help us!


19 posted on 03/24/2014 5:00:43 AM PDT by stilloftyhenight (...staying home isn't an option.)
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To: markomalley

The Muslims in the UK aren’t aborting their babies. Britain will richly deserve it’s punishment.


20 posted on 03/24/2014 5:17:13 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: JudyinCanada

Exactly. Progressive hypocrisy on parade. Again.


21 posted on 03/24/2014 5:30:41 AM PDT by polymuser
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To: Flick Lives; JudyinCanada

I agree with you both. The relevant issue is the killing of babies, not how their little bodies are disposed of. These supposed horror stories about bodies in jars or dumpsters are disgusting, but not particularly relevant.

The article is also factually incorrect. Baby corpses are not being “used to heat hospitals.” Due to the high percentage of moisture in a human corpse, cremation or incineration consumes a lot more energy than is generated. It’s a net energy loss, not gain.


22 posted on 03/24/2014 5:45:56 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: ilovesarah2012

They would have no moral problem with it. They are more then willing to kill unborn or born babies, and anyone else they just say the moon death god wills it and swing their swords away.

But they have no real need for abortion. When a woman gets an unwanted pregnancy they just kill the woman for being a filthy whore and that ends the pregnancy.


23 posted on 03/24/2014 5:46:19 AM PDT by Hardslab
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To: markomalley

wow... could the optics be any worse


24 posted on 03/24/2014 6:02:05 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: ilovesarah2012

“How do muslims feel about abortion? I don’t recall seeing anything about their beliefs.”

They think that at four months the fetus is a living soul and that abortion thereafter is murder.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_abortion

Here are some excerpts from a Moslem site:

“The Qur’an teaches that on the Day of Judgement parents who killed their children will be under trial for that crime, and their children will be witnesses against them (see Qur’an 81:8-9).”

“The right to life is God-given. No human should take away that right. The general rule, therefore, is that abortion is not permitted in Islam. However, Islam is a very practical religion. It includes principles to deal with exceptional cases. One such principle is that when a pregnancy threatens the life of the mother, an abortion may be performed. Although the lives of both mother and child are sacred, in this case it is better to save the principal life, the life of the mother. Even in this case, it would be better if the abortion is done before the foetus is 120 days old, for that is when the soul is breathed into the foetus. Islam does not permit abortion in other cases.”

“Women who have been victims of rape or incest naturally deserve sympathy and help. But a child conceived in this unfortunate manner still has a right to live.”

From this site: http://www.islamcan.com/common-questions-about-islam/what-does-islam-say-about-abortion.shtml#.UzAt5M5MLuN

I think many of them would regard the practices at this hospital as going beyond desecration and into sorcery.


25 posted on 03/24/2014 6:14:06 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: Flick Lives; JudyinCanada
Medical waste is a sub-division hazardous waste. How did we dispose of these types of waste in earlier times and how do we do it today.

You can call it a high temp oven, furnace, incinerator, or thermal oxidizer. Some things have to be incinerated(1600-1800 degrees), and some things can go to a hazardous waste landfill. But you want to keep this type of stuff out of the municipal landfill. And to save money, some of this stuff can be incinerated at a cement kiln rather than a hazardous waste incinerator.

On this particular issue, what is the protocol or regulation dealing with a blastocyst, an embryo, a fetus, or a stillborn child?

What do they do with used syringes. What does a hospital, a doctor, a dentist, or a veterinarian do with bloody gauze?

What does a GM auto plant do with their dirty solvent? What does Bubba's body shop do with his dirty solvent? What does Halliburton do with their fracking waste?

How much cheating is going on? How much does it cost to dispose of this stuff. Its expensive. Not just the cost of disposal, but also the cost of record keeping. Whether it is medical waste or industrial waste, a lot of it gets diverted and dumped. Its not uncommon to find large numbers of syringes washed up on the shore of the local lake. Its not uncommon for a body shop or a dentist to throw their hazardous waste into the dumpster and it ends up in the muny dump.

26 posted on 03/24/2014 6:23:30 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: markomalley

The smell of burning babies is sweetness to the nostrils of the god of Liberalism.


27 posted on 03/24/2014 6:50:51 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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What does Halliburton do with their fracking waste?

They either recycle the water or inject it in a well. They don't burn it.

28 posted on 03/24/2014 6:54:26 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
I'm not saying they burn it. I'm saying that there are regulations and protocol for dealing with all kinds of waste.

And not all fracing waste gets disposed of properly. Some of it gets dumped.

Sometimes we just change the name of a process. There is not any difference in burning human remains in a medical waste incinerator and cremation.

29 posted on 03/24/2014 7:04:49 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: markomalley

This is heartbreaking!


30 posted on 03/24/2014 9:15:41 AM PDT by Faith65 (Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior!)
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To: Ben Ficklin
There is not any difference in burning human remains in a medical waste incinerator and cremation.

I think there is--not to the remains, but to those who handle human remains. We're not talking about a tumor cut out, or a limb that could not be saved, but the remains of a human being (or someone, given the chance, would have been walking and among us.

When we revere the mortal remains of other humans, we also show respect for life. When we cast them aside as so much waste, we'll be burying the dead in mass graves or landfills with the trash.

As we respect those who have passed, we respect their descendents, the living.

It is a slippery slope.

31 posted on 03/24/2014 9:19:56 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: markomalley
"Most Eugenists are Euphemists. I mean merely that short words startle them, while long words soothe them. And they are utterly incapable of translating the one into the other, however obviously they mean the same thing. Say to them “The persuasive and even coercive powers of the citizen should enable him to make sure that the burden of longevity in the previous generation does not become disproportionate and intolerable, especially to the females”; say this to them and they will sway slightly to and fro like babies sent to sleep in cradles. Say to them “Murder your mother,” and they sit up quite suddenly. Yet the two sentences, in cold logic, are exactly the same.”

G. K. Chesterton in "Eugenics and Other Evils"

32 posted on 03/24/2014 10:02:12 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: markomalley

(Soylent) Green Energy


33 posted on 03/24/2014 11:00:43 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: markomalley

When liberalism (abortion advocacy) meets liberalism (environmentalism), you get liberalism squared, the parabolic acceleration of progressive ideology. To the political left, this is nirvana. This is utopia. This is the logical, wholesome, holy ideal. This is the sacrament of abortion meeting the pagan concept of a burnt offering. This is not an accident, this is by design.


34 posted on 03/24/2014 1:25:15 PM PDT by magellan
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