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Obama to Kill Tomahawk, Hellfire Missile Programs Cornerstone of U.S. Naval power eliminated
Free Beacon ^ | 3/24/14 | Adam Kredo

Posted on 03/24/2014 11:23:52 AM PDT by Nachum

President Barack Obama is seeking to abolish two highly successful missile programs that experts say has helped the U.S. Navy maintain military superiority for the past several decades.

The Tomahawk missile program—known as “the world’s most advanced cruise missile”—is set to be cut by $128 million under Obama’s fiscal year 2015 budget proposal and completely eliminated by fiscal year 2016, according to budget documents released by the Navy.

In addition to the monetary cuts to the program, the number of actual Tomahawk missiles acquired by the United States would drop significantly—from 196 last year to just 100 in 2015. The number will then drop to zero in 2016.

The Navy will also be forced to cancel its acquisition of the well-regarded and highly effective Hellfire missiles in 2015, according to Obama’s proposal.

The proposed elimination of these missile programs came as a shock to lawmakers and military experts, who warned ending cutting these missiles would significantly erode America’s ability to deter enemy forces.

“The administration’s proposed budget dramatically under-resources our investments in munitions and leaves the Defense Department with dangerous gaps in key areas, like Tomahawk and Hellfire missiles,” said Rep. Randy Forbes (R., Va.), a member of House Armed Services Committee.

“Increasing our investment in munitions and retaining our technological edge in research and development should be a key component of any serious defense strategy,” he said.

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Obama vs The US Military

1 posted on 03/24/2014 11:23:52 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

How long before the nation’s self preservation instincts kick in?


2 posted on 03/24/2014 11:24:31 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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3 posted on 03/24/2014 11:25:17 AM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum

What has he been promised in return for destroying us?


4 posted on 03/24/2014 11:25:41 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: Nachum

~~~Hellfire missiles~~~

Which the IAF used, much too late IMHO, taking out Yassin and later Rantissi in spectacular fashion.


5 posted on 03/24/2014 11:26:13 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: skeeter

Obama is a suicide pact. If people haven’t reacted yet, I doubt they will on this one. Most will never know about it.


6 posted on 03/24/2014 11:26:42 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Aria

No telling what his Dark Master hath promised. Any look at his agendas reveals the source.


7 posted on 03/24/2014 11:27:17 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: skeeter

“How long before the nation’s self preservation instincts kick in?”

Self-preservation is a biological reaction to a physical threat. This is at best an intellectual threat. No one is directly threatened so there can’t be a flight or fight response. No one will “react” to this. The fight, if there is one, will be political. I suspect that Congress will fight it if only because these programs mean employment in their states or districts. (Congress has several times voted funds to keep open the M1 tank facility in Lima, Oh, despite the Army wanting to close it.)


8 posted on 03/24/2014 11:28:59 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: skeeter

And one... ONE man is accomplishing all of this destruction.


9 posted on 03/24/2014 11:29:55 AM PDT by cld51860 (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: Nachum

Keep this in mind before those who attack us for being sensible about Russia of being soft on that country show up on this thread.

Its not Putin they ought to worry about; its Obama.

And to the moderator: I am not attacking any one personally here; I’m simply pointing out that if we don’t have the means to defend our national interests, we’re not going to be able to do anything more in response to our potential adversaries than to draft strongly worded letters of condemnation to them.

Take it as you like it.


10 posted on 03/24/2014 11:29:56 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Nachum

We don’t need them anymore because Mooch-elle has just delivered the latest blueprints and software for all our weapon systems going back to the Civil War to the ChiComs and through them to the Putinistas, while on her multi-million Yuan vacation.


11 posted on 03/24/2014 11:30:00 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Nachum
The good news is that Obama doesn't even get to PRIORITIZE defense spending.

Congress will determine how much of what is purchased. Exclusively.

This is just an example of Obama's "SHOW BUDGET" which he knew would never be enacted...thus the careless cuts to essential munitions.

Some WH staffer was told to find another $1bil in the defense budget and he did. Probably cut humvee tires and 155mm rounds too. He just went through until he hit the number without regard to WHAT was being cut.

Much ado about nothing.

12 posted on 03/24/2014 11:30:03 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: skeeter

“How long before the nation’s self preservation instincts kick in?”

We’ve shed that a long time ago. There are three conditions to avoid chaos in America:

Does the media ignore, or spin the problem so it seems to be a good thing?

Are smartphones available and working?

Are EBT cards being charged up?

Forget it. There won’t be any reaction until one of the 3 above conditions isn’t met.


13 posted on 03/24/2014 11:30:07 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: skeeter

The true damage done by Obama and his regime will not be realized for at least 10 years.


14 posted on 03/24/2014 11:31:04 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Nachum
The point of this reduction in Tomahawks is to spend more money on implementing LRASM. See Stick with the Tomahawk for one guys opinion. I'm sure there are many.
15 posted on 03/24/2014 11:31:11 AM PDT by Daus
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To: Nachum

Obama murdered the Constitution, Law, Freedom of religion,
the Family, ... and now,
the undocumented Tyrant will put the last nail
in America’s coffin.

The EXEMPT and PROTECTED will howl in delight
for their controllers, ... again.


16 posted on 03/24/2014 11:31:12 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: cld51860

“And one... ONE man is accomplishing all of this destruction.”

Nope. It’s the “dinosaur media” that we used to laugh at here. None of this would be possible without active media participation.


17 posted on 03/24/2014 11:31:45 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Nachum
The Tomahawk missile program—known as “the world’s most advanced cruise missile”—is set to be cut by $128 million under Obama’s fiscal year 2015 budget proposal and completely eliminated by fiscal year 2016, according to budget documents released by the Navy.

Didn't we just give 2B to Ukraine (I wonder how much went into Georgie Soros' pocket...), and 2B to the Islamists, and 2B to Africa???

How much of our tax dollars has he steered toward his solar cell cronies, not to mention the billions and billions of dollars he's wasted?

And now that he's turned the world into a powder keg, he's all about disarming us! A stupid, stupid, people put this man in charge of their nation...

18 posted on 03/24/2014 11:31:54 AM PDT by Errant (Surround yourself with intelligent and industrious people who help and support each other.)
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To: Mariner
Some WH staffer was told to find another $1bil in the defense budget and he did.

Probably some numbnuts that thinks Tomahawks are feather-bedecked hatchets and that Hellfire was something in the Chaplain corps ...

19 posted on 03/24/2014 11:32:24 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: Aria

“What has he been promised in return for destroying us?”

Probably ownership of one of the territories of the New Soviet States Of America.


20 posted on 03/24/2014 11:32:46 AM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum

Please help me here (I only have a public education): How it is that this is not considered treason???


21 posted on 03/24/2014 11:33:56 AM PDT by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: Nachum

Well, he’s more...”flexible”...in his second term.


22 posted on 03/24/2014 11:34:09 AM PDT by prisoner6 (FREEDOM)
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To: Aria
"What has he been promised in return for destroying us?"

&2 Mooch-elle's to enjoy for eternity. Wait a minute, that's really the definition of an unthinkable Hell.

23 posted on 03/24/2014 11:34:46 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: prisoner6
Well, he’s more...”flexible”...in his second term.

and unstoppable in his Third....

24 posted on 03/24/2014 11:36:24 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: skeeter

How long before the nation’s self preservation instincts kick in?

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As long as the federal checks and other forms of assistance keep coming few people really care. Their sense of self-entitlement is far greater than any realization of danger to themselves or their families. We are s a nation in serious decline.


25 posted on 03/24/2014 11:36:44 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Errant
Maybe he's not stupid.

Maybe he's devilishly-clever.

For he's bring hellish things to America and helping them all along the way.
26 posted on 03/24/2014 11:37:31 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Nachum

Reminds me of when Clinton ran us completely out of one of the three conventional types of cruise missiles, and down to three of another before Congress forced creation of a dedicated assembly line and purchase. The third type wasn’t used.


27 posted on 03/24/2014 11:38:12 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: cld51860

He wants a crisis. The worse the better for him.

It will justify the extension of his presidency beyond 2016, in the interest of “national stability” of course.


28 posted on 03/24/2014 11:39:11 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Mariner

They probably don’t know what the Tomahawk missile is. They just cut it because it isn’t politically correct. Some liberal thinks that it is insulting to American Indians.


29 posted on 03/24/2014 11:39:26 AM PDT by No Socialist
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To: cld51860
And one... ONE man is accomplishing all of this destruction.

Elections have consequences (sigh).

30 posted on 03/24/2014 11:39:38 AM PDT by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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To: No Socialist
Some liberal thinks that it is insulting to American Indians

Sadly, your cynicism likely is not far from the truth.

31 posted on 03/24/2014 11:40:20 AM PDT by wbill
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To: dforest

A Muslim Jim Jones on Islamic steroids.


32 posted on 03/24/2014 11:42:52 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: skeeter

good question. Too bad it didn’t kick-in in 2012..


33 posted on 03/24/2014 11:43:32 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: F15Eagle

That’s the explanation which makes the most sense and the one where other evidence points to the same conclusion.


34 posted on 03/24/2014 11:44:41 AM PDT by Errant (Surround yourself with intelligent and industrious people who help and support each other.)
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To: Mariner

Indeed, with the HAC-D and SAC-D, along with the SASC and HASC still to get their hits in, this is way early to panic.


35 posted on 03/24/2014 11:45:26 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Errant

Yep, I’m very sorry to say.


36 posted on 03/24/2014 11:45:35 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: jda
Please help me here (I only have a public education): How it is that this is not considered treason???

Because the Senate is controlled by the DemocRATs and we don't have the votes.

37 posted on 03/24/2014 11:45:58 AM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum

The report is a half-truth, because it omits how the Tomahawk has a proposed successor, the Cruise Missile XR (Extended Range). The Russians are marketing increasingly effective anti-cruise missile systems, and the Tomahawk was not suitable for striking moving targets. The new Cruise Missile XR (Extended Range) offers stealth capabilities, the ability to strike moving targets, and other improvements challenging the Russian anti-cruise missile systems.

The Hellfire has long been under consideraton for phasing out as proposed replacements were developed and scheduled for appropriations that were subsequently canceled for budgetary reasons. The latest proposed replacement for the Hellfire is the Joint Air to Ground Missile (JAGM).

The retirement of the Tomahawk and Hellfire missiles after long service is to be expected sooner or later, so the real question is whether or not the Obama Administration is going to proved adequate and timely funding for effective replacement missile systems?


38 posted on 03/24/2014 11:46:02 AM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: Mariner

Exactly

When did Congress last pass one of the President’s budgets?

The article is fear mongering.


39 posted on 03/24/2014 11:47:38 AM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: Nachum

The Vietnam era crowd that hates the military, that supported our enemies in Vietnam and since, is now running the Pentagon. Their lies and deceit when they claim to love the military and veterans is bogus from start to finish.


40 posted on 03/24/2014 11:47:38 AM PDT by armydawg505
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To: Nachum
Wasn't Obama's budget proposal last year D.O.A. in the Senate, it wasn't even considered for a vote?

Same fate this year, IMHO.

41 posted on 03/24/2014 11:47:51 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Nachum

How can “Obama” just do this unilaterally? Or are all the various military heads on board with it? Can they just say no?

“The proposed elimination of these missile programs came as a shock to lawmakers and military experts, who warned ending cutting these missiles would significantly erode America’s ability to deter enemy forces.”

Why is all of Congress and the entire judiciary just allowed this steaming pile of a fake president to do whatever he wants?


42 posted on 03/24/2014 11:49:35 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Mariner

Agreed. It’s SOP to “cut” programs that everyone knows Congress will restore through additional/supplemental funding.

Same game that was played, for years, with the C-130 and C-17 programs.


43 posted on 03/24/2014 11:49:54 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Starboard

I wonder if Obama was Washington at the battle of Princeton, if he would have survived (the friendly fire that is).


44 posted on 03/24/2014 11:53:57 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Nachum

“Enemies foreign and domestic”. Obama has both bases covered.


45 posted on 03/24/2014 11:53:58 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

That’s okay, we don’t need to defend the country, just let people come on in wherever they’re from, and let’s confiscate privately owned firearms, unless of course the possible owner professes a religion that prohibits anyone’s touching their body.

Thanks Nachum.


46 posted on 03/24/2014 11:59:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Nachum

Time for Zell Miller’s “spitball” speech replay.


47 posted on 03/24/2014 11:59:09 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Screw the farmers. I can get everything I need at the grocery store.)
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To: Nachum

The tug overact and it’s pogroms continue


48 posted on 03/24/2014 12:02:23 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nachum
The Trojan Horse just keeps puking his contents all over US.

Whomever put the bridle and bit on him and set him in front of the gate certainly chose well. He was irresistible.

Perhaps the karma that takes US down will have a little something left for them once it's finished with US.

Here's some fun reading while we wait:

Obama’s Numerous Links with International Marxism Exposed

The First Time I Heard of Barack

New START and Obama's Mysterious Trip to Russia

‘Jaw-Dropping’: Former U.S. Treasury Secretary Makes Bombshell Claim About Russia and 2008 Financial Crisis (and Why It May Sound Familiar)

49 posted on 03/24/2014 12:03:00 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Nachum

He has killed the healthcare system, now he is going to kill the military.


50 posted on 03/24/2014 12:04:26 PM PDT by CMailBag
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