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Amazon set to flex its cloud-computing arm
Marketwatch.com ^ | 3/24/2014 | Rex Crum

Posted on 03/24/2014 11:26:38 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

Edited on 03/24/2014 11:35:29 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

But for the average consumer, there is a part of Amazonís AMZN -2.60% business that they may know little, if anything about, yet has the potential to become one of the companyís biggest sources of revenue and profit margins: Amazon Web Services.


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KEYWORDS: amazon; cloudcomputing

1 posted on 03/24/2014 11:26:38 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux
Amazon Web Services
2 posted on 03/24/2014 11:29:28 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

AWS is a geek’s dream platform. I have several micro instances running dinky little Linux servers I use for file servers and a few applications. Along with Glacier, Amazon’s going to make a killing with the micro-transaction crowds. It’s just pennies a month to backup your (encrypted) data to the Amazon cloud.


3 posted on 03/24/2014 11:30:09 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

I’m moving to the “boondocks” in a month and will lose my ability to host my LAMP server from home. I’ll have to look into this.


4 posted on 03/24/2014 11:36:30 AM PDT by 109ACS (If this be Treason, then make the most of it. Patrick Henry, May 1765)
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To: rarestia

This is going to turn small business IT world on its head. And kill PC sales to small biz in the process.


5 posted on 03/24/2014 11:36:53 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

Something is going to be needed to get AT the cloud.


6 posted on 03/24/2014 11:39:17 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: RoosterRedux

I.e. this might take a toll on servers, but desktops?


7 posted on 03/24/2014 11:39:45 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Wouldn’t that eventually be just a modem/router, monitor, and keyboard.


8 posted on 03/24/2014 11:41:24 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

The concept of window isn’t going to go away anytime soon. And a brisk graphical bandwidth is going to matter.

The replacement for the PC will be the PC.

It might be Linux, running Windowy things via the AmazonNet (as an example).


9 posted on 03/24/2014 11:44:37 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

But won’t the desktop computer with real processing power be unnecessary...just a barebones machine with about as much processing power as your cellphone or ipad.


10 posted on 03/24/2014 11:50:14 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

Modem/routers would have to possess some of the abilities of small PCs or at least a “streambox” like Apple TV or Roku. Anything capable of running a web browser should be able to reach web-based storage and apps.


11 posted on 03/24/2014 11:51:05 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: RoosterRedux

Bezos will probably sell a Kindle that can be used as a desktop.;-)


12 posted on 03/24/2014 11:51:55 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: Charles Martel

I have a Roku (which I love BTW) and can see something like that providing all I need to connect to the cloud.


13 posted on 03/24/2014 11:53:06 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

Unless oracle, Hp, and Dell can figure out the cloud
the server business thy have will be history.
IBM was smart to sell out to Lenovo when they could.


14 posted on 03/24/2014 11:54:15 AM PDT by jonose
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To: RoosterRedux

I know of 3 Fortune 500 companies using Amazon cloud services to host their line of business systems. Seems to work well.


15 posted on 03/24/2014 12:02:02 PM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; ShadowAce; Las Vegas Dave; Swordmaker; martin_fierro; blam; AdmSmith; ...

Thanks RoosterRedux.


16 posted on 03/24/2014 12:02:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: CodeToad

What do they use to connect to the cloud?


17 posted on 03/24/2014 12:04:36 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

In what respect?


18 posted on 03/24/2014 12:07:40 PM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: 109ACS
I’m moving to the “boondocks” in a month and will lose my ability to host my LAMP server from home. I’ll have to look into this.

I run a quasi-lamp stack (I use Mongo over MySQL and a lightweight web server over Apache), but I chose RackSpace over Amazon. It was my conclusion that if all you want is a virtual Linux-based network, and don't need much in the way of tools and support, RackSpace is preferable since it doesn't ever seem to get in your way. And it is dirt cheap, at least right now.

I have been impressed, and I actually got rid of a fairly decent-sized home network because I just didn't have a need for it anymore. I don't really have anything against Amazon, but RackSpace uses an open standard, so theoretically if I had to migrate from RackSpace, it would be relatively easy. I am somewhat paranoid about getting locked into one provider.
19 posted on 03/24/2014 12:08:27 PM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: CodeToad

Do they use decktops and modems or have they purchased a replacement for the PC that gives them connectivity without the need for local computing power?


20 posted on 03/24/2014 12:12:39 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: Charles Martel
Modem/routers would have to possess some of the abilities of small PCs or at least a “streambox” like Apple TV or Roku. Anything capable of running a web browser should be able to reach web-based storage and apps.

I have had that idea for a little while (so I assume about a billion other people have, as well). The one hickup in my setup is that I don't want to have to set up a vnsserver (? I forget the name) on each machine I want to access my "computers" from, so I just do everything in command line. As a result, I still use a pc for a lot of things, although the bulk of my non-critical data is all on my virtual network.

A machine like what I think you are describing will make a killing.
21 posted on 03/24/2014 12:14:49 PM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: RoosterRedux

Not following you. Cloud computing is about servers not desktops.


22 posted on 03/24/2014 12:14:50 PM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Indeed it might - I am using a trial of an AWS hosted desktop service called WorkSpaces. You have a windows desktop running in their environment, and can use a client application [pc, mac, ios, future pcoip/zero client] to connect to it from anywhere. Works very well.

It is definitely not as universally useful as the server/infrastructure type services, but I have found it quite useful as I’ve been testing it.

[disclaimer, I don’t work for amazon, but I am an AWS certified solution architect]


23 posted on 03/24/2014 12:17:28 PM PDT by earlyapex (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.)
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To: jonose

The cloud is servers. Amazon probably has tons of server farms around the world.


24 posted on 03/24/2014 12:21:52 PM PDT by petercooper ("I was for letting people keep their health insurance, before I wasn't". --- Barack Obama)
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To: RoosterRedux
This thread is a strong clue that I've fallen behind the tech curve and won't be catching up .. lol  (sorta)
25 posted on 03/24/2014 12:22:42 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: earlyapex
Indeed it might - I am using a trial of an AWS hosted desktop service called WorkSpaces. You have a windows desktop running in their environment, and can use a client application [pc, mac, ios, future pcoip/zero client] to connect to it from anywhere. Works very well.

I have never used Amazon Web Services, only RackSpace, but in RackSpace you can set up a new server as a Linux or PC machine (most major flavors of Linux). I have had no problem running it as a virtual desktop (I don't do this on a regular basis, just played around with it), not a server. Is WorkSpaces any different than that arrangement, with VNSServer as the client application?
26 posted on 03/24/2014 12:23:28 PM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: rarestia

” It’s just pennies a month to backup your (encrypted) data to the Amazon cloud.”

I’m paying them to store my data in some 3rd world hellhole?

Pass.


27 posted on 03/24/2014 12:29:33 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: jjsheridan5

Rackspace built a development office right next to Virginia Tech. Smart move


28 posted on 03/24/2014 12:30:58 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: CodeToad

I read an article a few weeks ago that seemed to imply that since all the software is run on cloud servers and all the computation power resided in the cloud that a desktop computer wasn’t really needed.


29 posted on 03/24/2014 12:32:55 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: CodeToad
I think I remember something about desktops being replaced with zero clients or thin clients?

Sorry to be so fuzzy...so new to it, I'm barely able to discuss this stuff.

30 posted on 03/24/2014 12:40:14 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: AppyPappy
I’m paying them to store my data in some 3rd world hellhole?

AWS regions: US East (Northern Virginia), US West (Oregon), US West (Northern California), EU (Ireland), Asia Pacific (Singapore), Asia Pacific (Tokyo), Asia Pacific (Sydney), and South America (Sao Paulo).

You can choose where to store your data.
AWS Free Usage Tier FAQs http://aws.amazon.com/free/faqs/

31 posted on 03/24/2014 12:42:49 PM PDT by garyb
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To: RoosterRedux

AWS is a good business, but 90-95% profitability? I don’t think so.


32 posted on 03/24/2014 12:50:41 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: RoosterRedux

Of course, just an etch-a-sketch. :)


33 posted on 03/24/2014 12:55:51 PM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Thin clients basically have no software but a browser and limited computing power so they are supposed to be cheap. Hasn’t been the case, however. IT departments load down the systems with “security” features as to be nearly useless.


34 posted on 03/24/2014 12:56:56 PM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: CodeToad

Thx much!


35 posted on 03/24/2014 1:00:49 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

I see all those fancy-dan geekasmic things on Amazon, when I am looking to find a real book.

I’ve got no use for all that fancy stuff.


36 posted on 03/24/2014 1:04:46 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: CodeToad

I’ve been predicting thin clients since before I got my first WebTV.

One of these days I’ll be right!


37 posted on 03/24/2014 1:09:43 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: RoosterRedux

Whoa...just found my reason for not using Amazons cloud

From the Amazon cloud site...

Obama for America

“AWS allowed us to have a technology partner that matched our scaling internally with the organization.”

Harper Reed
Chief Technology Officer


38 posted on 03/24/2014 1:26:37 PM PDT by BubbaJunebug
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To: RoosterRedux

now, more and more companies, big and small, will wind up wth EVERYTHING data-computing-wise coming to a standstill when some major electric-telecom failure causes loss of all Internet access

“cloud” computing for all it offers ALSO offers MORE SYSTEMIC issues across a greater spectrum of people when their is a systemic problem with either power or communications

“greater cloud use” with all its benefits will also create greater systemic vulnerability


39 posted on 03/24/2014 2:41:37 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: RoosterRedux

now, more and more companies, big and small, will wind up wth EVERYTHING data-computing-wise coming to a standstill when some major electric-telecom failure causes loss of all Internet access

“cloud” computing for all it offers ALSO offers MORE SYSTEMIC issues across a greater spectrum of people when their is a systemic problem with either power or communications

“greater cloud use” with all its benefits will also create greater systemic vulnerability


40 posted on 03/24/2014 2:42:05 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: AppyPappy

Amazon’s major east coast data center is located in the tech triangle in Raleigh, North Carolina. I personally toured the data center, and it’s one Hell of an impressive site. Their hub and front-end head servers are based in Norfolk, Virginia. Not sure what you mean by “3rd world hellhole.” Every major network provider MUST have domestic data centers. They cannot meet SLAs without having localization. It’s impossible.


41 posted on 03/24/2014 3:06:49 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Our entire appdev department (we’re a top 10 CUSO) uses AWS for development. It’s cut our internal systems overhead in half and allowed them to develop on their own time and budget. It’s already turning business on its head, and Amazon isn’t the only player. Microsoft is a major cloud provider along with AT&T and Google.


42 posted on 03/24/2014 3:09:00 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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