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Would America Go to War with Russia?
The National Interest ^ | March 24, 2014 | James S. Robbins

Posted on 03/24/2014 11:31:47 AM PDT by Abakumov

Vice President Biden was in Warsaw last week to reassure our eastern NATO allies that they have the support of a “steadfast ally.” But if Russia moved against Poland or the Baltic States, would the United States really go to war? Or would we do nothing and effectively destroy the NATO alliance?

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: nato; obama; putin; russia; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; yuliatymoshenko
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1 posted on 03/24/2014 11:31:47 AM PDT by Abakumov
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To: Abakumov

Better happen quickly lest we have nothing to contribute but spitballs.


2 posted on 03/24/2014 11:33:31 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Abakumov

Not this American.


3 posted on 03/24/2014 11:34:31 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Abakumov

Mom jeans will do nothing.


4 posted on 03/24/2014 11:34:38 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: dforest

Do nothing and destroy NATO. Obama loves it when a plan comes together.


5 posted on 03/24/2014 11:34:46 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: Abakumov

Well, boys, I reckon this is it. Nuclear combat toe-to-toe with the Rooskies.


6 posted on 03/24/2014 11:35:36 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Abakumov

Mr. Soetoro wouldn’t do a day-um thang. Yeah, right - we’d go to war with Russia over what,? white people? /s


7 posted on 03/24/2014 11:35:51 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: Abakumov

I think at the very least we should review what happened in WWII and during the Napoleonic era first.


8 posted on 03/24/2014 11:36:53 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Abakumov

the magic negro is a pussy who only wants to destroy America in every way.


9 posted on 03/24/2014 11:36:58 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: Abakumov
Peace in our time....


10 posted on 03/24/2014 11:39:04 AM PDT by Leroy S. Mort ("Don't say sh*t unless you know for sure it helps." - Raylan Givens)
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To: Abakumov

There would only be war between the U.S. and Russia IF it somehow benefitted obama and the democrat party.


11 posted on 03/24/2014 11:39:38 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Abakumov

Obama is only about war with tax paying citizens and traditional America.


12 posted on 03/24/2014 11:40:02 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Abakumov

Obama may go with NATO but only with high altitude bombing, backed up with drones.


13 posted on 03/24/2014 11:41:16 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Abakumov

A direct war as opposed to the proxy wars of the last 50 years would be stupid. Unless our president wants to kill us in something like a suicide by cop scenario we’d best not get involved in this one. (The entire situation is Obama’s fault for seeming weak in the first place. Nothing so empowers a bully like a mom jeans, bike helmet wearing beta male in charge of the nuclear football.)


14 posted on 03/24/2014 11:41:20 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Abakumov

As much as I would love to see Russian mad dog chained and tamed, not going to happen with current pussy in WH.


15 posted on 03/24/2014 11:41:42 AM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: Abakumov

Commander in Chief Obama (or whatever his name is)...

....what could possibly go wrong?


16 posted on 03/24/2014 11:42:04 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: Abakumov
Or would we do nothing and effectively destroy the NATO alliance?

NATO is a polite fiction, dead lo these 20+ years.

If Putin wants the end of NATO to be explicit (he may), then he will invade Estonia and expose the lies that have grown up since 1991-1994.

OTOH, he may want to wait until a time when the public funeral of NATO would bring him more advantage.

Either way, watch Merkel. The Germans have a lot to lose here, but they have potentially quite a lot to gain, as well.

17 posted on 03/24/2014 11:42:11 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. H)
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To: atc23
"Mr. Soetoro wouldn’t do a day-um thang."

I would hate to see America at war with this CIC (no balls) and a military staffed with a high percentage of women (no offense intended) and homosexuals. All 0-Zero is good for is to "lean forward" (bend over).

18 posted on 03/24/2014 11:42:13 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Abakumov

That’s crazy.


19 posted on 03/24/2014 11:44:25 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Abakumov

we are at war with Russia/Communist. It’s never been “Not a war”.


20 posted on 03/24/2014 11:45:25 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: Abakumov
Kiss you *** goodbye.


21 posted on 03/24/2014 11:45:30 AM PDT by McGruff (They say the first casualty of war is truth)
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To: Abakumov
Putin would arrange circumstances such that Obama could stay out of it. Maybe frame up the subject country as the aggressor. NATO is officially a "defensive alliance," so aiding an "aggressor" would not be required.

That having been said I think any such scenario is improbable.

22 posted on 03/24/2014 11:45:45 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: VRWC For Truth

He would blame it on the right and start a war against the Tea Party


23 posted on 03/24/2014 11:46:40 AM PDT by spudville
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To: Abakumov
But if Russia moved against Poland or the Baltic States, would the United States really go to war?

The question isn't wheter the U.S. would but whether the rest of NATO would.

24 posted on 03/24/2014 11:47:20 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Jim Noble
You are correct.

When NATO was expanded to cover Bulgaria, Romania, the Baltics...and there was talk of including Georgia and Ukraine...Putin KNEW it was complete bullsh!t.

There is no way the USA is going to war with Russia to protect Bulgaria.

It's a walking, talking bullsh!t story.

25 posted on 03/24/2014 11:47:47 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: McGruff

“Fasten your seatbelt, Dorothy....”


26 posted on 03/24/2014 11:47:49 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Abakumov

If someone who loved America made a list of the best possible commander-in-chief choices for a US-Russia war, Barack Hussein Obama would not be among the top five billion names on the list. Going to war against Russia is at best a terrible idea, and with current leadership unthinkable.


27 posted on 03/24/2014 11:47:52 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: MUDDOG

LOL...how many get it?


28 posted on 03/24/2014 11:50:51 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Abakumov

Moscow is not America’s enemy, Washington DC is.


29 posted on 03/24/2014 11:51:08 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Abakumov

Read some background about the Ukraine- not worth it.


30 posted on 03/24/2014 11:51:11 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: Abakumov

Why should anyone fight, since the U.S. Government refused to do the job we payed it to do and failed to deported 30 million illegals, who have no risk or worry of fighting or dying for this country..


31 posted on 03/24/2014 11:52:08 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Abakumov

Whole damn place isn’t worth the blood of a single American PFC. Never was.


32 posted on 03/24/2014 11:52:45 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Can’t top Slim Pickens as Major Kong.


33 posted on 03/24/2014 11:54:17 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: elpadre

NATO will fight to the last Pole.


34 posted on 03/24/2014 11:54:35 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Abakumov

Lets get Obama, his kids, the corrupt Congress and the Senate and all their kids to go fight in Russia.

I’ll vote for that!


35 posted on 03/24/2014 11:54:43 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Abakumov

Not as long as mac daddy had a red pen, a phone and no ba**s


36 posted on 03/24/2014 11:55:28 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: Pollster1
War over Crimea?? We have no interest in Crimea. The Ukraine is making us their patsy after pulling off a coup....

Bottom line...The Ukraine doesn't want to fight, though they keep instigating...they want US to give them MONEY. It's all about money.

37 posted on 03/24/2014 11:55:36 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Abakumov

No way. We and they have nothing to gain.


38 posted on 03/24/2014 11:55:37 AM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: Abakumov

Should done in in 1941, but we had Obama I in the White Hut then.


39 posted on 03/24/2014 11:55:43 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Badwhereas things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Abakumov
If war is good for our corporate overlords, we shall go to war. If it is not, we won't.

We did not go to war over the Georgia invasion on GWB's watch or Crimea on Obama's.

40 posted on 03/24/2014 11:56:03 AM PDT by gdani
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To: Abakumov
Would America Go to War with Russia?

Only if Vlad threatens muslims in Ukraine. Then Soebarkah's gloves are off!

41 posted on 03/24/2014 11:57:19 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Pollster1

“If someone who loved America made a list of the best possible commander-in-chief choices for a US-Russia war, Barack Hussein Obama would not be among the top five billion names on the list. Going to war against Russia is at best a terrible idea, and with current leadership unthinkable.”

You failed to recognize how it may be that Putin and Russia have already gone to war with the United States. The United States may already have only two available choices, surrender to the Russian aggressions or defend the United States and allies against the Russian aggressions.


42 posted on 03/24/2014 11:57:30 AM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: Abakumov

By zer0 being such a Vapid sissy, he provokes those that would not ordinarily start trouble on the world stage knowing that a strong America would react.

By making America week, zer0 starts wars.


43 posted on 03/24/2014 11:58:11 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: spudville

He would blame it on the right and start a war against the Tea Party.

Only after he got back from his $300,000,000.00 tax payers vacation and golf outing.


44 posted on 03/24/2014 12:00:06 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: RJS1950

I can see obonzo starting one then saying we had to surrender and thus letting Russia come in and occupy us or let the UN run us to further his dream of destroying this country.


45 posted on 03/24/2014 12:02:04 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: RedStateRocker
Whole damn place isn’t worth the blood of a single American PFC. Never was.

I wish that was a reason for not starting wars. Sadly, it is not. But, there are always plenty of armchair generals whose only military experience is MASH reruns thirsting to send our 18-25 year-olds to combat for....what, I'm not sure.

46 posted on 03/24/2014 12:02:40 PM PDT by gdani
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To: Abakumov
I believe that NATO (which is not directly dependent upon President Obama, and his frequent vicissitudes) would respond militarily to Russian aggression against any NATO country. To do otherwise would be. effectively, to guarantee the disollution of NATO. And I simply cannot imagine any war--including one that might make WWII seem like a stroll in the park, by comparison--that would amount to a worse outcome than the dissolution of NATO, in and of itself, would be...
47 posted on 03/24/2014 12:02:55 PM PDT by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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To: Abakumov
Would America Go to War with Russia?

This is a trick question isn't it?

48 posted on 03/24/2014 12:03:36 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: AmericanExceptionalist
I simply cannot imagine any war--including one that might make WWII seem like a stroll in the park, by comparison--that would amount to a worse outcome than the dissolution of NATO, in and of itself, would be...

You forgot the sarcasm tag.

49 posted on 03/24/2014 12:05:03 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. H)
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To: Gadsden1st

NATO is useless and where are the blue helmet UN - why are they not in Crimea?


50 posted on 03/24/2014 12:05:35 PM PDT by edcoil (Not a single republican was ever a slave owner. They were all democrats.)
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