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Sailor gunned down at Naval Station Norfolk, security forces kill male suspect
NY Daily News ^ | 3/25/13 | NY Daily News

Posted on 03/25/2014 3:58:39 AM PDT by k4gypsyrose

NORFOLK, Va. — A sailor was shot and killed at Naval Station Norfolk in Virginia and security forces killed the male civilian suspect, a base spokeswoman said.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: alreadyposted; crime; kenyanbornmuzzie; navy; news; norfolk; shooting; terroristact; ussmahan; virginia
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Another Navy Shooting. What is going on?
1 posted on 03/25/2014 3:58:39 AM PDT by k4gypsyrose
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To: k4gypsyrose

Gun Free Zones.


2 posted on 03/25/2014 4:08:13 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Unfortunately, Red, that’s the long and short of it. Even Navy sailors are targets when they’re all disarmed by orders. “Security Forces” are at best minutes away when seconds count.

Odds are this will involve romance gone bad.

TC


3 posted on 03/25/2014 4:17:08 AM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: Red in Blue PA

2320?
Civilian aboard?
Snuck aboard for a ‘conjugal’ visit?
Good thing ‘we’ can’t blame the Marines for allowing a ‘gun’ aboard - not only the base but a ship.

If shooting aboard ship why was Security Force involved? (OR do they call the base MAA and Marine Personnel aboard the base and ships ‘Security Force’?

I hear Security Force and I ‘picture’ the normal cadre of Civilian Security Police that man(oops woman) most gates.


4 posted on 03/25/2014 4:18:59 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --"I would agree with you BUT that would make both of us wrong".)
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To: k4gypsyrose
"USE OF FORCE AUTHORIZED".
As a former AF Security Police..I loved reading that when driving around the base.
5 posted on 03/25/2014 4:20:18 AM PDT by Paul46360
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To: k4gypsyrose

A lot of information about nothing. Now everyone with someone at Norfolk has increased anxiety.


6 posted on 03/25/2014 4:29:30 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Ships have watches on board and on the pier that are armed, either with Baretta or M-16. Most likely that was the “security forces” that got the shooter.


7 posted on 03/25/2014 4:31:02 AM PDT by fredhead (Join the Navy and see the world.....77% of which is covered in water.)
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To: fredhead

Is it true that numerous Aircraft Carriers are now docked in Norfolk, lined up like “ducks-in-a-row”?


8 posted on 03/25/2014 4:35:14 AM PDT by Tugo (Strategic Concern.)
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck

My first thought. Will we ever know?


9 posted on 03/25/2014 4:40:55 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: k4gypsyrose

A lovers spat in the new Gay Navy???


10 posted on 03/25/2014 5:04:17 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: k4gypsyrose

“A sailor was shot and killed at Naval Station Norfolk in Virginia and security forces killed the male civilian suspect...”

Homosexual ‘love’ spat gone bad...?


11 posted on 03/25/2014 5:09:40 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Tugo

just like December 7, 1941??


12 posted on 03/25/2014 5:16:26 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: k4gypsyrose

So the shooter been identified as an Amish Jihadi yet?


13 posted on 03/25/2014 5:22:03 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: areukiddingme1

“So the shooter been identified as an Amish Jihadi yet?”

Or, one of odumbo’s son’s acting “stupidly?” (i.e. travon and white hispanic zimmerman).

Or, maybe the shooter was heard shouting “Allahu Akbar.”


14 posted on 03/25/2014 5:31:15 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: elpadre
US Aircraft Carriers are strategic assets. Historically, any act of war committed against them required a nuclear response. There was a photo posted somewhere last week showing about 5 or 6 aircraft carriers docked in a row there in Norfolk Naval Station.. Tight little target for Putin or that Iranian warship off the east coast.

All there on at the instruction of Obama ?

15 posted on 03/25/2014 5:45:06 AM PDT by Tugo (Strategic Concern.)
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additional:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3136988/posts


16 posted on 03/25/2014 5:45:55 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck
When I turned on this news this morning and it was reported, ‘one man dead and the shooter, a male civilian, is also dead.’, my first thought was, ‘Gay’.
17 posted on 03/25/2014 5:49:40 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: k4gypsyrose
"The soldier and civilian were shot dead...

The headline says "sailor gunned down." Right under that it says "soldier."

Huh?

18 posted on 03/25/2014 5:52:44 AM PDT by QT3.14
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To: QT3.14

Just more proof that the MSM has no idea what they’re talking about.


19 posted on 03/25/2014 5:57:01 AM PDT by k4gypsyrose
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To: Red in Blue PA

GAY free zones


20 posted on 03/25/2014 6:08:09 AM PDT by Ancient Wonderboy
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To: k4gypsyrose

What do we have here? Another “MALE” suspect, being gunned down in a Naval Base, right after he has killed another sailor. How can that be? Weren’t we promised that if we took the guns away, we wouldn’t have any more shootings?


21 posted on 03/25/2014 6:12:44 AM PDT by gingerbread
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To: QT3.14
The headline says "sailor gunned down." Right under that it says "soldier."
Another example of 21st Century "journalism" ... truth/reality/facts be damned.
22 posted on 03/25/2014 6:24:27 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: k4gypsyrose

As a certain JB once said, “Some people claim there’s a woman to blame.”


23 posted on 03/25/2014 6:25:44 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: k4gypsyrose

The Navy has a gang problem so could be related to gang activity.


24 posted on 03/25/2014 7:02:26 AM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: ilovesarah2012
My first thought. Will we ever know? the truth?

You know as well as I do, that if this WAS a gay-lover spat, Obama's government will deflect this so damn fast that you might actually start thinking that this was spawned by an anti-Muslim video on YouTube!

They MUST make everyone believe that gays are normal and do NOT pose any additional threat to the security and Armed Forces of America. They are already covering-up the fact that the number of speculated rapes are up, Up, UP! Oh sure, they are deflecting it with news about how the commanders need to have their powers revoked. What they are NOT mentioning is that the CLEAR majority of the increase has been MALE ON MALE attacks!
25 posted on 03/25/2014 7:04:05 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: QT3.14

Quote: The headline says “sailor gunned down.” Right under that it says “soldier.”

I’d bet a reporter wrote the story and an editor wrote the title => sloppy.


26 posted on 03/25/2014 7:08:55 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: ExTxMarine
You know as well as I do, that if this WAS a gay-lover spat, Obama's government will deflect this so damn fast that you might actually start thinking that this was spawned by an anti-Muslim video on YouTube!

Found it: THIS is the video that prompted this incident

27 posted on 03/25/2014 7:10:30 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember

If that video doesn’t piss off the Muslims and make them want to kill, then nothing will!


28 posted on 03/25/2014 7:17:13 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: VRWCmember

LOL!!!


29 posted on 03/25/2014 7:18:42 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: VRWCmember

If it is a gay lover thing, it never happened.


30 posted on 03/25/2014 7:19:49 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: ExTxMarine

During my time in the Air Force, I had heard of at least four male on male rapes... usually a drunken, or ethered(sp?) airman awakening to their roommate smoking their pole. One of my trainees was a victim of such an attack. His career was ruined because he beat the crap out of the rapist the next day in front of too many witnesses.


31 posted on 03/25/2014 7:25:55 AM PDT by Never on my watch (Jeesh!)
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To: Never on my watch

While I was in the Marine Corps, I knew of two incidents of male-on-male rape.

Once while in Okinawa - just as you described - drunk Marine awakes to his roommate smoking his pole. He started beating the shit outta him and it two or three other Marines to save the smoker’s life!

The other was in Camp Lejeune. We had three-man rooms at our barracks and the three roomies went drinking, one passed out and the other two decided to hold him down and sodomize him. His screaming brought the three roomies from the adjoining head into the room, at which point all four of them kicked the ever-loving-shit outta the two offenders.

In both cases, a quick ass-kicking response left the offenders bloodied and bruised which included a side trip to the hospital on the way to the brig! In neither case were the responses admonished (as it should be)!


32 posted on 03/25/2014 7:41:05 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck

I was also thinking its prolly a domestic.


33 posted on 03/25/2014 7:41:31 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: k4gypsyrose; Revolting cat!

Killed the alleged suspect?

Hope they got the right guy.


34 posted on 03/25/2014 7:47:33 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: a fool in paradise
Killed the alleged suspect?

Hope they got the right guy.

Pretty sure they did; guy took a security guard's handgun and shot the sailor, then other security guards shot him.

NBCNews article

35 posted on 03/25/2014 8:39:59 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember

LOL!


36 posted on 03/25/2014 8:55:37 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Vaquero

37 posted on 03/25/2014 9:05:09 AM PDT by bgill
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To: ExTxMarine

I think most of these attacks are not even reported. The victims really don’t want to deal with the embarrassment of having the event exposed.


38 posted on 03/25/2014 9:18:36 AM PDT by Never on my watch (Jeesh!)
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To: Tugo

All but one of those lined-up carriers was in various states of de-activation or overhaul. The Enterprise was one-—decommissioned some time ago. There’s another row just like that at Puget Sound NS. All being retired- and disassembled. It’s notable that we have a larger fleet of de-activated carriers than the rest of the world has working ones. And if push came to shove the process could be reversed in days. The real question for a dumbass enemy is wheretheflock are the working ones?


39 posted on 03/25/2014 9:40:37 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: k4gypsyrose

The sailor and the civilian assailant were shot on board the USS Mahan, an AEGIS guided missile detroyer berthed there.

How the hell did an armed civie get onboard that vessel?

Security watch must have got the perp...but him getting aboard is going to be a key part of the NCIS investigation.


40 posted on 03/25/2014 10:13:10 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
...and here's the answer:

Man kills sailor after diarming Perry Officer

NORFOLK, Va. — A civilian was shot and killed by security officers Monday night after disarming a petty officer standing watch on the destroyer Mahan and shooting a sailor who rushed to help.

Navy officials said the man approached the Mahan's quarterdeck and was confronted by the ship's security personnel. During a struggle, he took a gun from the petty officer on watch and shot another sailor. Navy security forces then shot the man, who they said was not carrying his own weapon.

The incident occurred about 11:20 p.m. on Pier 1, according to Navy spokeswoman Terri Davis. No other injuries were reported.

The civilian was authorized to be on the base, but Davis could not provide additional details.

It's not clear whether he was authorized to be on Pier 1 or the Mahan. The Navy generally keeps check points at pier and ship entrances as well as at base gates.

The sailor who died was described only as a male. Navy officials expect to release his identity after his relatives have been contacted.

Admiral Bill Gortney, the head of Fleet Forces Command in Norfolk, opened an energy workshop on base this morning with a moment of silence "for our shipmate." He added: "We will find out what happened and we will prevent that from happening again."

The base was put on lockdown for about 45 minutes after the shooting as a precaution. Officers, chiefs and duty section personnel should report to the Mahan this morning, but non-duty section enlisted personnel were being told not to report, according to a release from Davis. Counselors were called in from the Fleet and Family Support Center.

So the guy appraoched thee watch, struggled with and disarmed the PO on watch, and then shot and killed a sailor rushing to his aid. I hope they quickly decipher why that guy tried to baord a US Navy vessel unarmed, disarmed the watch, and then killed by others on watch.

41 posted on 03/25/2014 10:20:48 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head

Curiouser and curiouser it gets.

TC


42 posted on 03/25/2014 10:54:25 AM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: Tugo
Is it true that numerous Aircraft Carriers are now docked in Norfolk, lined up like “ducks-in-a-row”?

Always have been.


43 posted on 03/25/2014 11:39:24 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: mbarker12474

Prime target.


44 posted on 03/25/2014 11:51:40 AM PDT by Tugo (Strategic Concern.)
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To: mbarker12474

Out of 11 active carriers, only 3 are deployed at the present time.


45 posted on 03/25/2014 12:15:47 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: VRWCmember

LMAO


46 posted on 03/25/2014 1:37:27 PM PDT by tioga
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To: VRWCmember
<GAGGGGG!!!>

Couldn't watch it!

<urrppp>

47 posted on 03/25/2014 3:14:48 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: cherokee1
The real question for a dumbass enemy is wheretheflock are the working ones?

Just ask the bar girls.

48 posted on 03/25/2014 3:51:09 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: Hawthorn
Some people claim there’s a woman to blame.”

fwiw...some are now saying the sentry aboard the ship, from who the civilian perp wrestled the weapon used in the shooting of the sailor......was female..."to blame"?..who knows...just sayin...

49 posted on 03/25/2014 4:03:37 PM PDT by sternup
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To: sternup

Probably, I’ll never be subdued by a woman, she would have to cap me.


50 posted on 03/25/2014 4:22:46 PM PDT by USAF80
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