Posted on 03/25/2014 5:24:45 AM PDT by SJackson
“You can’t make the parents care about their kids.”
Which is why every “couple” who produce a child that goes on welfare should be sterilized—white and black alike.
Well, maybe we could be generous and give them a year -
year’s up - choose: Stay on welfare and be sterilized, support yourself and maintain your ability to reproduce.
” “There’s a lot of cultural differences that they don’t understand ...”
Bad grammar on the part of this education professional.
Should be “Thee ARE a lot of cultural differences ....
A race-relations realist. I like it.
And I was lucky; the district where I taught was rural and in the south, so the gang influence was negligible. Still, the environment was horrible; every child qualified for the “supplemental nutrition program,” so classes stopped every morning at 8:45 for breakfast, and we were instructed to get everyone to the cafeteria for lunch and the after school snack as well, because much of our federal funding was tied to participation in the nutrition programs.
Inside the classroom, many of the kids had major discipline issues, for various reasons. Most were well below grade level in math and reading. I was a history teacher, but spent a lot of time tutoring math; sadly, most of my students had not yet mastered three column addition and subtraction, so there was no way they could handle the expected math curriculum for seventh graders (pre-algebra). We spent our spring semester each year prepping for the state achievement test, in the vain hope we could get enough of our kids to achieve a passing score (fat chance; when I left, the district was placed under state control).
Learning begins with discipline, both individually and in the group. And that's what is (largely) missing from today's schools in America. In fact, the very modest attempts to impose order and structure are demagogued as being racist. Idiots like Glenn Singleton, enabled by Barack Obama and Eric Holder, are being enabled to complete the destruction of our schools. You couldn't pay me enough to teach in an urban district today, and 10 years from now, the schools won't exist, or they will be run like prisons--there won't be any other solution.
Of course, there are exceptions. Parochial schools in the same neighborhoods are models of excellence and discipline, largely because parents are involved, and some work two or three jobs to pay their child's tuition. In public schools, the parents (in my experience) were just as bad or worse than the kids. Our slowest day of the year was the "Parent-Teacher Conference." I had six sections of seventh grade social studies (average 30 students per class). I could count on one hand the number of parents who would actually show up to discuss their child's achievement (or lack thereof)
The real victims in all of this were the few parents and children who expected the school to provide an education. I remember one young girl (African-American) who made straight As because (a) she wanted to learn, and (b) her parents demanded it. Her father was an HVAC repairman who worked long hours but always attended every parent-teacher conference.
During one meeting, he lamented the fact that his kids were being held back by the "criminals and thugs" (his words, not mine). "What do I do?" He asked. He couldn't afford private school and home schooling was out of the question, since both he and his wife worked long hours each day. So, his son and daughter were trapped in badly failing schools.
I left the classroom ten years ago, but I think about that young woman from time to time. Both she and her family deserved better and I hope she somehow survived the system.
This much I know: until discipline is restored in our schools, nothing will be accomplished. Two-thirds of all serious disciplinary problems are committed by just six percent of the students. We know who they are, and the system has tools to handle them, including indefinite suspension and expulsion. But most principals, superintendents and school boards were too afraid to use them BEFORE Obama's little initiative on "fairness" in school discipline. Getting rid of that policy should be the first education executive order signed by the next Republican president.
Atlanta Cheating scandal:
http://destee.com/index.php?threads/school-cheating-scandal-shakes-up-atlanta.75549/
Ain’t no Leghorn chickens in the flock.
Black kids don't deserve an education?
It has NEVER been proven, because it cannot be proven, that universal compulsory academic education to age 18 can work.
You can have all the high expectations you want, but when you populate an Algebra II or English Lit class at the high school level with a group whose IQs range from 70-95, with a MEDIAN of 83-85, you have a formula for failure.
What form the failure takes varies by gender, and by the formulae used for order and for discipline. However, a very substantial fraction of the males held against their will in these urban "school" systems cannot be disciplined even in State Prison, so I am skeptical that better teachers or less powerful teacher unions can do the trick.
Face the truth. The experiment is a failure.
So...not knowing the city-fied meaning of “WASSUP” prevents white teachers from properly teaching minority students....hmmmmmm
Please provide a brief description of a plan to do this.
My kid went to school in Portland OR and I can tell you that it was that bad. Teachers had a quota on how many children of color per week they could discipline (send to the principle’s office, put in ‘time-out, et) ... couldn’t go over the quota no matter the offense.
Yes, it was that bad.
I totally agree. I went to a virtually all white school growing up and the disruptive kids HS were white males. The issue is keeping kids in school who don’t belong there and don’t want to be there.
We should end compulsory education after passing an either grade level proficiency exam or at age 16 whichever comes first. If someone can pass that exam at 12 or 14 years old, they are no longer required to be in school .. but they can elect to stay in college prep for 2 more years if they want. No way we need 12 years of schooling ... it’s just babysitting.
Sure they do, if they want one. From what I gather, a million conditions must be met-often contradictory ones-before this is remotely possible, and this is only gong by what they themselves say.
And neither do teachers and other students who really want an education deserve to have their classrooms disrupted and both students and teachers intimidated if not downright assaulted by those who are not there to learn.
But one thing’s for certain-even when blacks themselves are running everything and making every decision, every failure is always the fault of whites, and white parents and students must make yet more sacrifices-again, often contradictory from recent policies-for the minority of students who are not there to learn.
“Well, maybe we could be generous and give them a year -”
That sounds pretty fair, but it gives them a chance for 2 more welfare tots in the meantime—and you KNOW how they beat the system.
Funny how the left would gladly pass laws to limit the number of kids that we have,
but if you suggested such a thing for welfare queens, that we’d not pay for any kids beyond the 2nd,
the left goes nuts.
“It has NEVER been proven, because it cannot be proven, that universal compulsory academic education to age 18 can work.”
Not sure how this is relevant and what you mean by “can work”. It seems to work pretty well most places.
“What form the failure takes varies by gender, and by the formulae used for order and for discipline. However, a very substantial fraction of the males held against their will in these urban “school” systems cannot be disciplined even in State Prison, so I am skeptical that better teachers or less powerful teacher unions can do the trick. Face the truth. The experiment is a failure.”
Not necessarily. Google Frank Mickens and Joe Clark for examples of how discipline, order and high expectations can turn school around even in bad neighborhoods.
Of course the entrenched school bureacracy and race hustlers fight them at every turn (cant have someone succeed where they failed). The concept is sound and it can work if people are brave enough to try it.
The jey words in Holder’s statement:
“Equal educational OPPORTUNITIES”
The books are the same for blacks as white. The desks are the same. The light is the same. The heat is the same. The teacher says his/her words out loud for the whole class to hear. The sound in the room is the same.
The difference is in a ‘culture’ where behaving in a respectful manner towards a person who is trying to teach you something useful for your ‘adult’ life is considered ‘selling out’ to the rest of the black/Mexican ‘hood’ and showing any ability to behave or learn or achieve in the same manner as a white student.
IF this author is looking for sympathy from me, They can count me out.
Even when I was in school 57 years ago, there were those who didn’t even try to pretend they were paying attention.
Those who ride the trail from school to prison have paved that road with their own actions.
The kids don’t want to work, the kids don’t want to study, the kids don’t want to learn - hey, plenty of jobs available at McDonald’s and Burger King.””
I contend that even the fast food companies don’t need to hire these thugs.
Those stores are selling more than a fast meal. They are also selling a clean, safe environment.
IF I don’t perceive that I am in such, I will take my business elsewhere & I don’t think I am alone.
If those kids will never take instruction from a white person, what if black ex-military men and women were to step in and make a difference here.””””
I suspect that the kids would consider them all ‘Uncle Toms’ for suceeding in what they perceive as a white man’s world.
I think you are right. Culture is the main roadblock here. I know whites who adopted a black child who was doing very well academically and behavior wise in a 95% white school. Once she hit her teens she had alot of pressure to hang out with “her people”. It was all downhill from there.
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