Skip to comments.Hillary Clinton Won't Have an Easy Ride to Presidency
Posted on 03/25/2014 5:26:04 AM PDT by Kaslin
Will Hillary Clinton be elected America's next president? The polls suggest she will.
Recent polls compiled by Real Clear Politics show her winning 67 percent of the vote in Democratic primaries, with no other candidate above 11 percent. General election polling shows Clinton with an average lead over various possible Republican nominees of 51 to 39 percent.
But an election isn't over until it is over, and this one hasn't started. For one thing, no one is sure whether Clinton will actually run.
She turns 69 in 2016 (the same age as Ronald Reagan when he was first elected in 1980) and she may consider that her achievements in eight years as first lady and U.S. senator, and four years as secretary of state are enough for one lifetime.
Her achievements in that last office may look less impressive than they did in the first Obama term when majorities expressed approval of the president's foreign policy. Clinton's proudly proclaimed "reset" with Russia suddenly looks less like a triumph than a misfire.
She's also had health scares: a blood clot behind her right knee in 1998 and another in her skull in December 2012.
The 2016 election will be only the fourth in the last 40 years in which the incumbent president wasn't running. In the previous three -- 1988, 2000, 2008 -- the candidate of the president's party ran roughly in line with the incumbent's job approval.
That produced a 53 percent to 46 percent victory for George H. W. Bush, a popular vote plurality for Al Gore and a 53-46 defeat for John McCain.
The odd thing about 2016 polling is that Hillary Clinton runs far above Barack Obama's current job approval -- currently 43 percent -- while in the few polls pitting Vice President Joe Biden and others against Republicans, those Democrats run far behind.
That's odd, because we're in a period of straight-ticket voting, and in recent Senate and House elections, Democratic candidates have won percentages highly correlated with Obama's job approval.
One reason Clinton may be running ahead of the president's approval is the high retrospective approval of Bill Clinton's presidency. The 1990s are remembered, largely but not entirely accurately, as a time of booming job growth, technological progress, peace and American primacy abroad.
The last six years of Clinton's presidency, when Republicans had majorities in both houses of Congress, are seen as times of bipartisan cooperation and reform. Back in 2008, Obama said he wanted to be a transformative president like Ronald Reagan, rather than an accommodating president like Bill Clinton.
Obama has operated that way, declining Clinton-style triangulating between his party's liberals and the other party's conservatives. Today's low Obama approval rating and Clinton's higher percentages suggest that many independent voters prefer the Clinton model.
But if Bill Clinton is a political asset for his wife's candidacy, he could also prove to be a liability. He has continued to be more politically active -- though not taking a harsh partisan approach -- than just about any other former president except Andrew Jackson and Theodore Roosevelt.
Two other family members of presidents have been elected president while those former presidents were alive, but both forebears were politically inactive. George H. W. Bush withdrew from politics after he lost in 1992, and John Adams was 89 years old when John Quincy Adams took the oath in 1825.
A case can be made that many voters would be pleased to see an experienced, somewhat mellowed and undoubtedly brainy Bill Clinton as an adviser always on call to a second President Clinton.
But personal feelings toward Bill Clinton were decidedly negative after the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke, and a case can be made that many voters have little appetite for having such shenanigans touch the White House again.
President Clinton's aides were always on guard against "bimbo eruptions," and his possible "first gentleman" role seems to be triggering a revival of interest in his extracurricular adventures.
In the last month alone, he posed, presumably inadvertently, with two Nevada prostitutes, and more recently the widely read Daily Mail ran a story on his travels a decade ago on the private plane of a man later convicted of having sex with a minor.
On balance I suspect that Bill Clinton would be more of an asset than a liability to a Hillary Clinton candidacy. But I'm not sure whether voters have sorted out their conflicting feelings about the 42nd president.
And I'm not sure whether Hillary Clinton's poll numbers represent anything more than a preference for a familiar and widely respected figure over passels of little-known Democrats (and a much-derided vice president) and Republicans. We'll see -- if she runs.
She will. The MSM will carry her to victory on a wave of puff piece reporting and the pubs will be too timid to attack get weaknesses.
The concussed Hillary will not be a good President.
So, can we go back and find the “Karnack” of politics writing essentially the same story in 2006? He did such a wonderful job in predicting the Romney Presidency.
“Not an easy ride”? Why? Is the broom in the shop?
“You fool! When I said nuke the Chinese, I meant put the takeout in the microwave!!”
Have you seen her lately? Her weight is entering Jabba the Hutt territory.
I don’t think she will run, but she and Slick Willie want to wrest the reins of their party away from the Obama wing, so for that reason, she will suck up all the oxygen in the room ($$$, too), then at the last minute throw her considerable weight behind the contender of her choosing.
Money = power and if they have the lion’s share of it, they can be kingmakers.
My personal opinion is that they want Rahm Emanuel to be the nominee.
Too bad, Sarah. You seemed to have some promise. You can now retire to Wasilla.
I'm trying real hard.
Benghazi doesn't really count as an "achievement" does it?
OK, I got nothing.
Help me out, folks - what is this referring to?
“Now that Sarah Palin’s endorsed Hillary, Sarah’s credibility has dropped below zero.”
Sorry to disagree. If Hillary blasts her, Hillary is a bully. If Hillary accepts the statement, she dampens criticism of Palin.
All upside, no downside.
How come? Are you planning to tit on your butt in 2016 and make sure she will be elected? Thanks a lot
Her murder count, but that would leave out her time in Arkansas.
You are reading into that just exactly what the MSM wants you to.
She sidestepped the question. I don't think it was an endorsement at all.
Whoa, there, let's not get kinky.
Hillary will never be president! She is over the hill. She missed that train (was cheated out of it) in 2008.
All that matters here is, Hillary wants to be the first woman President, to insure her a place in History. ITS ALL ABOUT HILLARY!!!! That is the bottom line. Will she make a good president? Probably not without having Bill and the MSM at her 6.
It is senseless.
How about, ‘voters have yet to sort out their conflicting feelings about bill Clinton.’ ?
Who has conflicting feelings? People either think bill is ok or great, based on emotional appeal, and the need to believe lying shameless people or they realize, based on evidence, he’s a horrible man whose character is so flawed that he would have sex in his government office while hes supposed to be working with a young person, and that he would and could go as far as to sell secrets, and he has no business near anything connected to leadership of any kind any higher than a cashier at a discount store
I don’t mean to be snarky, I really don’t see a conflict here. Does the otherwise sensible mr Barone think people need to get used to bill Clinton? Never. Not at three am at a bar
Glad to hear that.
Oh, thrill. Trading “Mr. Frick” for “Mrs. Frack” in a tag team match. “Billsy” as First Laddie. He can carry on Moochelle’s project to get us all skinny. - I can hardly contain myself! \s
OMG...are you THAT short-sighted??? Sarah hit a home run with that!!
Hillary is the Best Looking Democrat woman, that’s why....all the others are coyote ugly. She is the epitome of “Lipstick Lesbian”.
Don’t forget those FBI files she has hidden away. That Blackmail Box might have a lot of powerful weapons.
I completely disagree.
Palin is Hillary Clinton’s number one competition.
Just waiting for this race.
Jimmy Kimmel interviewed the Clintons during a closing session at the "Clinton Global Initiative University" at Arizona State University.
Billy Boy Clinton was grinning like a simpering fool at the annual meeting of the tax-exempt "Clinton Global Initiative Foundation" few months back.. Notwithstanding the bombshell news that (1) the Clintons had employed a Muslim Brotherhood activist....and, (2) the Clinton Foundations were outed by the NY Times for their shady dealings and runaway spending.
Gehad al Haddad (above), Muslim Brotherhood activist AND former Clinton employee.....ready to carry out presidential orders. Gehad is currently sitting in a nice comfy Egyptian jail as we type. Gehad al Haddad was a Muslim Brotherhood spox--while simultaneously working at Hillary and Bill's tax-exempt foundation.
Gehad was arrested by the Egyptian military for inciting violence AT THE SAME TIME he was a Clinton employee. Gehad knows plenty about the way the M/B uses tax-exempts for money-laundering (to finance terror activities against America).
THE CLINTON-MUSLIM TERRORISM CONNECTION --- The Muslim terrorist was working at the Clinton Foundation AND conducting terrorist activities at the same time. Gehad al Haddad's intimacy w/ the Clintons explains why they remade themselves into the hallowed "Clinton Family Foundation."
The Clintons doing their "Holy Family" act.
NOTE The Clintons' shady foundation financing is unveiled in a recent NYT expose of Clinton corruption, greed, entitlement, nepotism, cronyism. Actions Billy took as president now serve to fuel hefty contributions to the foundation.
The Clintons' shady tax-exempt modalities are unveiled in the recent NYT investigative story. Corruption, greed, entitlement, nepotism, cronyism. The Clintons didn't have a pot to *** in in Arkansas---never even had a home to call their own. Now they're multi-millionaires.......with hundreds of millions in donations from dubious sources financing Hillary's ambitions and Bill's ego-driven obsession for being in the limelight.
There needs to be a thorough going-over of the three tax-exempt Clinton Foundations and their assorted money-grabbing derivations.
We need to know who pays/funds the Clinton's lifestyle/political ambitions---- especially b/c Hillary is running for prez. It is important to know to whom the Clinton's are truly indebted.
NY POST EXCERPT ----The Bill Clinton Foundation has spent more than $50 million on travel expenses Bill Clintons foundation has spent more than $50 million on travel expenses since 2003, an analysis of the nonprofits tax forms reveal.....includes $4.2 million in 2011 for the William J. Clinton Foundation (to which Hillary and Chelsea are attached); $730,000 for the Clinton Global Health Initiative; and $7.2 million for the Clinton Health Action Initiative (CHAI).
FLORIDA FALLOUT FOR HILLARY----LOSER ALEX SINK'S QUID PRO QUO ---test-marketing Hillary's 2016 message
ITEM Sink took a clear position WRT O/Care----she never voted for it but said she would go to Congress to fix it.
ITEM The week before the election, Bill Clinton starred in robocalls that went out to local Democratic volunteers.
ITEM over a half-dozen lock-stepping House Democrats in league w/ the Clintons emailed fundraising appeals on Sinks behalf.
ITEM Sinks's "O/CAre fixit" position is Hillary's O/Care position exactly.Read on.
REFERENCE---Hillary Clinton insists O/Care is too important to turn the clock back.
The Politico ^ | March 5, 2014 | David Nather / FR Posted by 2ndDivisionVet
In a question-and-answer session following a lecture at UCLA, Hillary Clinton suggested shes open to different ways of achieving the health laws goals.
Hillary praised Arkansas the state where she and her husband rose to political fame for carrying out a new approach to expanding Medicaid coverage, by using the federal money to buy private health insurance for more than 100,000 low-income residents.
Hillary Clinton called the Arkansas move, spearheaded by Democratic Gov. Mike Beebe and a Republican-led Legislature, a brilliant approach that allowed the state to increase health coverage despite GOP concerns about adding more people to the traditional Medicaid program. The Arkansas House approved the plans renewal Tuesday...(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ....
Too bad about Florida, Hillary---back to the drawing board.
Even if Hillary manages to escape the O/Care stigma, she is toxic ----b/c lock-stepping Dems are super-glued onto Obamacare ......
BACKSTORY In 2009, retiring Arkansas Rep. Marion Berry presciently warned that ObamaCare was setting up Democrats for a huge 2010 midterm defeat; just as HillaryCare led to Democrat loss of 54 House seats in 1994.
Obama scoffed at such concerns; he told Berry, Well, the big difference here is youve got me.
SO MUCH FOR O'S EGOTISM 2010 Republicans went on to win 63 House seats and six Senate seats.....the largest swing to Repubs in the House since 1938. So Obama was right---the difference was him. ROTFL.
On to 2016.
BTW, Obama did not invent the term---it was Hillary Clinton who originally used the wonderfully reassuring if you like your plan, keep your plan a phrase that helped Obozo get reelected........and the talking point that Obama relied on during his fight to push Obamacare through Congress on an historic straight party-line all-Democrat vote.....
NOTE Hillary's 2007 campaign website was unearthed by America Rising. America's Rising found written on the website under "HILLARYCARE"---AKA Hillarys American Health Choices Plan---the phrase: if you have a plan you like, you keep it.
VIDEO of Hillary saying, "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan."
See a smiling Hillary (above) in 2007, saying: You can keep the doctors you know and trust. You keep the insurance you have. If you have private insurance you like, nothing changes, you can keep that insurance.
Can people actually be so brainwashed that they would believe that electing Hitlery will bring back the economy as it was under Bill Clinton? He didn’t have much to do with the state of the economy himself if people only knew it. I have heard it said by wiser men than I that the single best thing about Bill Clinton is that he really did not do much and I am inclined to believe that. I also think that if “Hillarycare” had been passed when they tried to pass it we would not have needed the services of Barack Obama, the ruination of the country would have been complete long before 2008. People said that Dwight Eisenhower was lazy but I would prefer another like Ike than anyone I can think of who might run in 2016.
“She turns 69 in 2016 (the same age as Ronald Reagan when he was first elected”
I knew President Reagan and PIAPS is no President Regan.
Where in my post did I say anything about sitting on my butt? You’re assumptions have led you to a false conclusion.
My post was solely about the coming orgasmic media love fest that will envelop the 2016 presidential campaign if Ms Clinton is the Dem nominee.
Oops that was supposed to be sit. I hope you knew that. LOL
The MSM will make straight the way of the Hillary.
Excuse me, I meant Beastwoman.
Liz, I really look forward to your posts. You are diligent and love to research the Liezzzzz<ssssss> that the Father of Lies puts in the mouths of these eager Henchbeasts.
You're an ornament of FR, and dauntless. Thanx for posting up!
We are in the age of the American idol Presidency.
Some old bag who looks like the crypt keeper’s great grandma isn’t going to be elected President. Some younger, more telegenic rat will beat her for the nomination just like Obama did.
I don’t think it’s even physically possible for someone to do that!
What the USA needs is a Churchill!
Who will become the 2016 Churchill?
She may be using the broom stick for something else.