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Hillary Clinton Won't Have an Easy Ride to Presidency
Townhall.com ^ | March 25, 2014 | Michael Barone

Posted on 03/25/2014 5:26:04 AM PDT by Kaslin

Will Hillary Clinton be elected America's next president? The polls suggest she will.

Recent polls compiled by Real Clear Politics show her winning 67 percent of the vote in Democratic primaries, with no other candidate above 11 percent. General election polling shows Clinton with an average lead over various possible Republican nominees of 51 to 39 percent.

But an election isn't over until it is over, and this one hasn't started. For one thing, no one is sure whether Clinton will actually run.

She turns 69 in 2016 (the same age as Ronald Reagan when he was first elected in 1980) and she may consider that her achievements in eight years as first lady and U.S. senator, and four years as secretary of state are enough for one lifetime.

Her achievements in that last office may look less impressive than they did in the first Obama term when majorities expressed approval of the president's foreign policy. Clinton's proudly proclaimed "reset" with Russia suddenly looks less like a triumph than a misfire.

She's also had health scares: a blood clot behind her right knee in 1998 and another in her skull in December 2012.

The 2016 election will be only the fourth in the last 40 years in which the incumbent president wasn't running. In the previous three -- 1988, 2000, 2008 -- the candidate of the president's party ran roughly in line with the incumbent's job approval.

That produced a 53 percent to 46 percent victory for George H. W. Bush, a popular vote plurality for Al Gore and a 53-46 defeat for John McCain.

The odd thing about 2016 polling is that Hillary Clinton runs far above Barack Obama's current job approval -- currently 43 percent -- while in the few polls pitting Vice President Joe Biden and others against Republicans, those Democrats run far behind.

That's odd, because we're in a period of straight-ticket voting, and in recent Senate and House elections, Democratic candidates have won percentages highly correlated with Obama's job approval.

One reason Clinton may be running ahead of the president's approval is the high retrospective approval of Bill Clinton's presidency. The 1990s are remembered, largely but not entirely accurately, as a time of booming job growth, technological progress, peace and American primacy abroad.

The last six years of Clinton's presidency, when Republicans had majorities in both houses of Congress, are seen as times of bipartisan cooperation and reform. Back in 2008, Obama said he wanted to be a transformative president like Ronald Reagan, rather than an accommodating president like Bill Clinton.

Obama has operated that way, declining Clinton-style triangulating between his party's liberals and the other party's conservatives. Today's low Obama approval rating and Clinton's higher percentages suggest that many independent voters prefer the Clinton model.

But if Bill Clinton is a political asset for his wife's candidacy, he could also prove to be a liability. He has continued to be more politically active -- though not taking a harsh partisan approach -- than just about any other former president except Andrew Jackson and Theodore Roosevelt.

Two other family members of presidents have been elected president while those former presidents were alive, but both forebears were politically inactive. George H. W. Bush withdrew from politics after he lost in 1992, and John Adams was 89 years old when John Quincy Adams took the oath in 1825.

A case can be made that many voters would be pleased to see an experienced, somewhat mellowed and undoubtedly brainy Bill Clinton as an adviser always on call to a second President Clinton.

But personal feelings toward Bill Clinton were decidedly negative after the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke, and a case can be made that many voters have little appetite for having such shenanigans touch the White House again.

President Clinton's aides were always on guard against "bimbo eruptions," and his possible "first gentleman" role seems to be triggering a revival of interest in his extracurricular adventures.

In the last month alone, he posed, presumably inadvertently, with two Nevada prostitutes, and more recently the widely read Daily Mail ran a story on his travels a decade ago on the private plane of a man later convicted of having sex with a minor.

On balance I suspect that Bill Clinton would be more of an asset than a liability to a Hillary Clinton candidacy. But I'm not sure whether voters have sorted out their conflicting feelings about the 42nd president.

And I'm not sure whether Hillary Clinton's poll numbers represent anything more than a preference for a familiar and widely respected figure over passels of little-known Democrats (and a much-derided vice president) and Republicans. We'll see -- if she runs.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 2016; hillary2016; hillaryclinton

1 posted on 03/25/2014 5:26:04 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
What difference, at this point, does it make

Rinse, repeat

2 posted on 03/25/2014 5:30:08 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Kaslin

She will. The MSM will carry her to victory on a wave of puff piece reporting and the pubs will be too timid to attack get weaknesses.


3 posted on 03/25/2014 5:32:03 AM PDT by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (I AM ANDREW BREITBART)
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To: Kaslin

The concussed Hillary will not be a good President.


4 posted on 03/25/2014 5:34:49 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: Vaquero

So, can we go back and find the “Karnack” of politics writing essentially the same story in 2006? He did such a wonderful job in predicting the Romney Presidency.


5 posted on 03/25/2014 5:37:33 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: Kaslin

“Not an easy ride”? Why? Is the broom in the shop?


6 posted on 03/25/2014 5:38:13 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains
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To: The_Media_never_lie

“You fool! When I said nuke the Chinese, I meant put the takeout in the microwave!!”


7 posted on 03/25/2014 5:40:45 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: Kaslin

Have you seen her lately? Her weight is entering Jabba the Hutt territory.


8 posted on 03/25/2014 5:41:33 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Kaslin

I don’t think she will run, but she and Slick Willie want to wrest the reins of their party away from the Obama wing, so for that reason, she will suck up all the oxygen in the room ($$$, too), then at the last minute throw her considerable weight behind the contender of her choosing.

Money = power and if they have the lion’s share of it, they can be kingmakers.

My personal opinion is that they want Rahm Emanuel to be the nominee.


9 posted on 03/25/2014 5:42:37 AM PDT by randita
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To: Kaslin
Now that Sarah Palin's endorsed Hillary, Sarah's credibility has dropped below zero.

Too bad, Sarah. You seemed to have some promise. You can now retire to Wasilla.

10 posted on 03/25/2014 5:44:43 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Hubris and denial overwhelm Western Civilization. Nemesis and tragedy always follow.)
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To: Kaslin
her achievements in eight years as first lady and U.S. senator, and four years as secretary of state

I'm trying...

I'm trying real hard.

Benghazi doesn't really count as an "achievement" does it?

OK, I got nothing.

Help me out, folks - what is this referring to?

11 posted on 03/25/2014 5:51:11 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Savage Beast

“Now that Sarah Palin’s endorsed Hillary, Sarah’s credibility has dropped below zero.”

Sorry to disagree. If Hillary blasts her, Hillary is a bully. If Hillary accepts the statement, she dampens criticism of Palin.

All upside, no downside.


12 posted on 03/25/2014 5:51:13 AM PDT by Makana ("Nothing can bring you peace but yourself; nothing, but the triumph of principles." -Emerson)
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To: Private_Sector_Does_It_Better

How come? Are you planning to tit on your butt in 2016 and make sure she will be elected? Thanks a lot


13 posted on 03/25/2014 5:51:17 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Her murder count, but that would leave out her time in Arkansas.


14 posted on 03/25/2014 5:52:13 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Savage Beast
Sarah Palin's endorsed Hillary,

You are reading into that just exactly what the MSM wants you to.

She sidestepped the question. I don't think it was an endorsement at all.

15 posted on 03/25/2014 6:02:57 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Kaslin
Are you planning to tit on your butt

Whoa, there, let's not get kinky.

16 posted on 03/25/2014 6:03:43 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Vaquero

Hillary will never be president! She is over the hill. She missed that train (was cheated out of it) in 2008.


17 posted on 03/25/2014 6:09:35 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Kaslin

All that matters here is, Hillary wants to be the first woman President, to insure her a place in History. ITS ALL ABOUT HILLARY!!!! That is the bottom line. Will she make a good president? Probably not without having Bill and the MSM at her 6.


18 posted on 03/25/2014 6:09:56 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (2016 an election or a coronation of a Queen?)
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To: Izzy Dunne

It is senseless.

How about, ‘voters have yet to sort out their conflicting feelings about bill Clinton.’ ?

Who has conflicting feelings? People either think bill is ok or great, based on emotional appeal, and the need to believe lying shameless people or they realize, based on evidence, he’s a horrible man whose character is so flawed that he would have sex in his government office while hes supposed to be working with a young person, and that he would and could go as far as to sell secrets, and he has no business near anything connected to leadership of any kind any higher than a cashier at a discount store

I don’t mean to be snarky, I really don’t see a conflict here. Does the otherwise sensible mr Barone think people need to get used to bill Clinton? Never. Not at three am at a bar


19 posted on 03/25/2014 6:10:41 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Izzy Dunne

Glad to hear that.


20 posted on 03/25/2014 6:15:58 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Hubris and denial overwhelm Western Civilization. Nemesis and tragedy always follow.)
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To: Kaslin
If they want a woman president so bad, why does it have to be Hillary?
It will only be an extension of the 0bama administration, with false accusations of sexism taking the place of racism.
She has a long history, lots of it shady, she had her fingers in politics nonstop since 1992, been on the wrong side on so many issues...
What GOOD has she done?
Really? What?

21 posted on 03/25/2014 6:22:22 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Kaslin

Oh, thrill. Trading “Mr. Frick” for “Mrs. Frack” in a tag team match. “Billsy” as First Laddie. He can carry on Moochelle’s project to get us all skinny. - I can hardly contain myself! \s


22 posted on 03/25/2014 6:34:01 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: Savage Beast

OMG...are you THAT short-sighted??? Sarah hit a home run with that!!


23 posted on 03/25/2014 6:50:05 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: BitWielder1

Hillary is the Best Looking Democrat woman, that’s why....all the others are coyote ugly. She is the epitome of “Lipstick Lesbian”.


24 posted on 03/25/2014 6:51:42 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Private_Sector_Does_It_Better

Don’t forget those FBI files she has hidden away. That Blackmail Box might have a lot of powerful weapons.


25 posted on 03/25/2014 6:51:44 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Savage Beast

I completely disagree.

Palin is Hillary Clinton’s number one competition.

Just waiting for this race.


26 posted on 03/25/2014 6:51:52 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: All
Amazing the depths to which the decrepit Clinton retreads will sink to get back into the WH. Thy had eight years there, Hillary was in the Senate, then Secy of State....now worn-out Hillary wants back in to help priapic Bill w/ his unfinished monkey business.

Jimmy Kimmel interviewed the Clintons during a closing session at the "Clinton Global Initiative University" at Arizona State University.

Billy Boy Clinton was grinning like a simpering fool at the annual meeting of the tax-exempt "Clinton Global Initiative Foundation" few months back.. Notwithstanding the bombshell news that (1) the Clintons had employed a Muslim Brotherhood activist....and, (2) the Clinton Foundations were outed by the NY Times for their shady dealings and runaway spending.

Gehad al Haddad (above), Muslim Brotherhood activist AND former Clinton employee.....ready to carry out presidential orders. Gehad is currently sitting in a nice comfy Egyptian jail as we type. Gehad al Haddad was a Muslim Brotherhood spox--while simultaneously working at Hillary and Bill's tax-exempt foundation.

Gehad was arrested by the Egyptian military for inciting violence AT THE SAME TIME he was a Clinton employee. Gehad knows plenty about the way the M/B uses tax-exempts for money-laundering (to finance terror activities against America).

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THE CLINTON-MUSLIM TERRORISM CONNECTION --- The Muslim terrorist was working at the Clinton Foundation AND conducting terrorist activities at the same time. Gehad al Haddad's intimacy w/ the Clintons explains why they remade themselves into the hallowed "Clinton Family Foundation."

The Clintons doing their "Holy Family" act.

NOTE The Clintons' shady foundation financing is unveiled in a recent NYT expose of Clinton corruption, greed, entitlement, nepotism, cronyism. Actions Billy took as president now serve to fuel hefty contributions to the foundation.

The Clintons' shady tax-exempt modalities are unveiled in the recent NYT investigative story. Corruption, greed, entitlement, nepotism, cronyism. The Clintons didn't have a pot to *** in in Arkansas---never even had a home to call their own. Now they're multi-millionaires.......with hundreds of millions in donations from dubious sources financing Hillary's ambitions and Bill's ego-driven obsession for being in the limelight.

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There needs to be a thorough going-over of the three tax-exempt Clinton Foundations and their assorted money-grabbing derivations.

We need to know who pays/funds the Clinton's lifestyle/political ambitions---- especially b/c Hillary is running for prez. It is important to know to whom the Clinton's are truly indebted.

NY POST EXCERPT ----The Bill Clinton Foundation has spent more than $50 million on travel expenses — Bill Clinton’s foundation has spent more than $50 million on travel expenses since 2003, an analysis of the nonprofit’s tax forms reveal.....includes $4.2 million in 2011 for the William J. Clinton Foundation (to which Hillary and Chelsea are attached); $730,000 for the Clinton Global Health Initiative; and $7.2 million for the Clinton Health Action Initiative (CHAI).

27 posted on 03/25/2014 7:10:45 AM PDT by Liz
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To: All
Wanna get a warm and fuzzy feeling? Read this.

FLORIDA FALLOUT FOR HILLARY----LOSER ALEX SINK'S QUID PRO QUO ---test-marketing Hillary's 2016 message

ITEM Sink took a clear position WRT O/Care----she never voted for it but said she would go to Congress to fix it.

ITEM The week before the election, Bill Clinton starred in robocalls that went out to local Democratic volunteers.

ITEM over a half-dozen lock-stepping House Democrats in league w/ the Clintons emailed fundraising appeals on Sink’s behalf.

ITEM Sinks's "O/CAre fixit" position is Hillary's O/Care position exactly.Read on.

REFERENCE---Hillary Clinton insists O/Care is too important to “turn the clock back.”
The Politico ^ | March 5, 2014 | David Nather / FR Posted by 2ndDivisionVet

In a question-and-answer session following a lecture at UCLA, Hillary Clinton suggested she’s open to different ways of achieving the health law’s goals.

Hillary praised Arkansas — the state where she and her husband rose to political fame — for carrying out a new approach to expanding Medicaid coverage, by using the federal money to buy private health insurance for more than 100,000 low-income residents.

Hillary Clinton called the Arkansas move, spearheaded by Democratic Gov. Mike Beebe and a Republican-led Legislature, a “brilliant approach” that allowed the state to increase health coverage despite GOP concerns about adding more people to the traditional Medicaid program. The Arkansas House approved the plan’s renewal Tuesday...(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ....

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Too bad about Florida, Hillary---back to the drawing board.

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Even if Hillary manages to escape the O/Care stigma, she is toxic ----b/c lock-stepping Dems are super-glued onto Obamacare ......

BACKSTORY In 2009, retiring Arkansas Rep. Marion Berry presciently warned that ObamaCare was setting up Democrats for a huge 2010 midterm defeat; just as “HillaryCare” led to Democrat loss of 54 House seats in 1994.

Obama scoffed at such concerns; he told Berry, “Well, the big difference here is you’ve got me.”

SO MUCH FOR O'S EGOTISM 2010 Republicans went on to win 63 House seats and six Senate seats.....the largest swing to Repubs in the House since 1938. So Obama was right---the difference was him. ROTFL.

On to 2016.

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BTW, Obama did not invent the term---it was Hillary Clinton who originally used the wonderfully reassuring “if you like your plan, keep your plan” a phrase that helped Obozo get reelected........and the talking point that Obama relied on during his fight to push Obamacare through Congress on an historic straight party-line all-Democrat vote.....

NOTE Hillary's 2007 campaign website was unearthed by America Rising. America's Rising found written on the website under "HILLARYCARE"---AKA Hillary’s American Health Choices Plan---the phrase: “if you have a plan you like, you keep it.”

VIDEO of Hillary saying, "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan."

http://burstupdates.wordpress.com/2013/11/15/hillary-2007-if-you-like-your-plan-you-can-keep-it/

See a smiling Hillary (above) in 2007, saying: “You can keep the doctors you know and trust. You keep the insurance you have. If you have private insurance you like, nothing changes, you can keep that insurance.”

28 posted on 03/25/2014 7:12:19 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Vaquero

Can people actually be so brainwashed that they would believe that electing Hitlery will bring back the economy as it was under Bill Clinton? He didn’t have much to do with the state of the economy himself if people only knew it. I have heard it said by wiser men than I that the single best thing about Bill Clinton is that he really did not do much and I am inclined to believe that. I also think that if “Hillarycare” had been passed when they tried to pass it we would not have needed the services of Barack Obama, the ruination of the country would have been complete long before 2008. People said that Dwight Eisenhower was lazy but I would prefer another like Ike than anyone I can think of who might run in 2016.


29 posted on 03/25/2014 7:44:51 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: Kaslin

“She turns 69 in 2016 (the same age as Ronald Reagan when he was first elected”

I knew President Reagan and PIAPS is no President Regan.


30 posted on 03/25/2014 8:38:49 AM PDT by Rannug ("all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: Kaslin

Where in my post did I say anything about sitting on my butt? You’re assumptions have led you to a false conclusion.

My post was solely about the coming orgasmic media love fest that will envelop the 2016 presidential campaign if Ms Clinton is the Dem nominee.


31 posted on 03/25/2014 9:06:58 AM PDT by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (I AM ANDREW BREITBART)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Oops that was supposed to be sit. I hope you knew that. LOL


32 posted on 03/25/2014 11:15:31 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Private_Sector_Does_It_Better
I didn't say that your post said anything about you sitting on your post, but you were so certain that she would run and the MSM aka Lame Stream Media will carry her to victory. Here is a screengrab of your post


33 posted on 03/25/2014 11:18:17 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
Barone is guilty of wishful thinking.

The MSM will make straight the way of the Hillary.

Excuse me, I meant Beastwoman.

34 posted on 03/25/2014 12:40:32 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Liz
NOTE Hillary's 2007 campaign website was unearthed by America Rising. America's Rising found written on the website under "HILLARYCARE"---AKA Hillary’s American Health Choices Plan---the phrase: “if you have a plan you like, you keep it.”

Liz, I really look forward to your posts. You are diligent and love to research the Liezzzzz<ssssss> that the Father of Lies puts in the mouths of these eager Henchbeasts.

You're an ornament of FR, and dauntless. Thanx for posting up!

35 posted on 03/25/2014 12:49:41 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Private_Sector_Does_It_Better

We are in the age of the American idol Presidency.

Some old bag who looks like the crypt keeper’s great grandma isn’t going to be elected President. Some younger, more telegenic rat will beat her for the nomination just like Obama did.


36 posted on 03/25/2014 2:15:53 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Izzy Dunne

I don’t think it’s even physically possible for someone to do that!


37 posted on 03/25/2014 2:17:56 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Kaslin

What the USA needs is a Churchill!

Who will become the 2016 Churchill?


38 posted on 03/25/2014 8:03:16 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Kaslin

Typo?


39 posted on 03/25/2014 8:14:18 PM PDT by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: Doctor 2Brains
“Not an easy ride”? Why? Is the broom in the shop?

She may be using the broom stick for something else.

40 posted on 03/26/2014 3:33:08 PM PDT by dearolddad (/i>)
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