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America Exposed: Obama Seeking to Abolish Tomahawk, Hellfire Missile Programs
breitbart ^ | 3/25/14 | d heine

Posted on 03/25/2014 7:46:46 AM PDT by bestintxas

Obama Seeking to Abolish Tomahawk, Hellfire Missile Programs by Debra Heine 24 Mar 2014 947post a comment Share This: 143 281 Obama is doing that thing again that he loves to do, "which is surrender whatever advantages the country has – whichever advantages, wherever we dominate...." The president is seeking to cut two highly successful missile programs, which defense experts say have helped the U.S. Navy maintain military superiority for the past several decades. Obama's proposal they say would leave us with no functioning Tomahawk missiles past 2018.

Via the Washington Free Beacon:

The Tomahawk missile program—known as “the world’s most advanced cruise missile”—is set to be cut by $128 million under Obama’s fiscal year 2015 budget proposal and completely eliminated by fiscal year 2016, according to budget documents released by the Navy.

In addition to the monetary cuts to the program, the number of actual Tomahawk missiles acquired by the United States would drop significantly—from 196 last year to just 100 in 2015. The number will then drop to zero in 2016.

The Navy will also be forced to cancel its acquisition of the well-regarded and highly effective Hellfire missiles in 2015, according to Obama’s proposal.

The proposed elimination of these missile programs came as a shock to lawmakers and military experts, who warned ending cutting these missiles would significantly erode America’s ability to deter enemy forces.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alreadyposted; hellfire; obama; searchisourfriend; tomahawk
Shockingly, in spite of increased military action by China and Russia, Obama wants to reduce our military prowess. Why? to buy more liberal votes with food stamps.
1 posted on 03/25/2014 7:46:46 AM PDT by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas

The report is a half-truth, because it omits how the Tomahawk has a proposed successor, the Cruise Missile XR (Extended Range). The Russians are marketing increasingly effective anti-cruise missile systems, and the Tomahawk was not suitable for striking moving targets. The new Cruise Missile XR (Extended Range) offers stealth capabilities, the ability to strike moving targets, and other improvements challenging the Russian anti-cruise missile systems.

The Hellfire has long been under consideraton for phasing out as proposed replacements were developed and scheduled for appropriations that were subsequently canceled for budgetary reasons. The latest proposed replacement for the Hellfire is the Joint Air to Ground Missile (JAGM).

The retirement of the Tomahawk and Hellfire missiles after long service is to be expected sooner or later, so the real question is whether or not the Obama Administration is going to proved adequate and timely funding for effective replacement missile systems?


2 posted on 03/25/2014 7:48:08 AM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: bestintxas

And just where will DHS, TSA, FEMA, IRS, FBI, CIA, ATF and locale law enforcement get their Hellfire and Tomahawk missiles from now?


3 posted on 03/25/2014 7:53:52 AM PDT by dagogo redux
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To: bestintxas
Credit the Mad Kenyan with causing more damage than the Japanese Peril Harbor Attack Force.
4 posted on 03/25/2014 7:53:58 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: WhiskeyX

“so the real question is whether or not the Obama Administration is going to proved adequate and timely funding for effective replacement missile systems?”

Is it a real question or a foregone conclusion to the negative? I am know how I’d bet.


5 posted on 03/25/2014 7:55:13 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: SandRat

Why do we need weapons? Doesn’t everyone love us now?


6 posted on 03/25/2014 7:55:13 AM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: bestintxas
Why?

To strip America's defensive capabilities bare and leave her open to attack. That's why.

7 posted on 03/25/2014 8:00:47 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Truth sounds like hate...to those who hate truth.)
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To: WhiskeyX
The report is a half-truth

Correct, new generations of stuff is what is being funded. LRASM & JAGM.

These stories are just trolling people.
8 posted on 03/25/2014 8:04:01 AM PDT by Daus
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To: logic101.net

Someone’s sleeping, Lord, kumbaya


9 posted on 03/25/2014 8:04:17 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: bestintxas

Please note that Kerry has voted AGAINST almost EVERY WEAPON SYSTEM IN THE U.S. INVENTORY!!!


10 posted on 03/25/2014 8:08:06 AM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: WhiskeyX

Thanks for posting “the rest of the story”. I started to go check facts but decided to skim comments first.

I had heard a few years ago that the Tomahawk cruise missile was becoming obsolete as a result of America’s (and by proxy the world’s) missile defense systems. The Tomahawk is a subsonic, straight flying, precision munition. It flies low and follows ground contour, which initially made it difficult to shoot down. Today, as I understand it, they can be detected and taken out with heat seeking munitions. It stands to reason we have more capable weapons today.

The real questions is, are we funding and manufacturing the replacements or are we going back to sticks and stones?


11 posted on 03/25/2014 8:10:58 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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To: bestintxas

The Obamaists are touting the Coup Stick missile. It touches the enemy to count coup.


12 posted on 03/25/2014 8:14:17 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Tenacious 1

“The real questions is, are we funding and manufacturing the replacements or are we going back to sticks and stones?”

I have strong doubts considering the way the replacements have been stricken from the Budget before and the way Hagel and Obama have never seen a Defense appropriation that could not be cut or eliminated altogether.


13 posted on 03/25/2014 8:18:52 AM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: Tenacious 1

” are we funding and manufacturing the replacements or are we going back to sticks and stones?”

Your comment reminds me of what Zell Miller said about Kerry and using spitballs.

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/convention2004/zellmiller2004rnc.htm


14 posted on 03/25/2014 8:19:46 AM PDT by bestintxas (Every time a RINO bites the dust a founding father gets his wings.)
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To: G Larry

“Please note that Kerry has voted AGAINST almost EVERY WEAPON SYSTEM IN THE U.S. INVENTORY!!!”

As he asks himself “WWJD?” (What Would Jane (Fonda) Do?).


15 posted on 03/25/2014 8:26:55 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Daus
These stories are just trolling people

Could you elaborate? These missle systems aren't needed anymore? Thanks.

16 posted on 03/25/2014 8:29:54 AM PDT by LouAvul (In a state of disbelief as to how liberals destroyed America in a mere 40 years.)
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To: bestintxas

Its TREASON


17 posted on 03/25/2014 8:32:37 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: bestintxas
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18 posted on 03/25/2014 8:36:38 AM PDT by preacher (I am not a global warming hoax denier.)
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To: bestintxas

And half the people are walking around with their fingers up their noses and don’t know and don’t care.


19 posted on 03/25/2014 8:50:49 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: bestintxas

Who’s going to stop him, huh? No one. Congress is too busy kissing his backside and more than half the nation is up there, too.


20 posted on 03/25/2014 9:14:11 AM PDT by bgill
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To: bgill

Yeah. . .but with the SASC/HASC and HAC-D and SAC-D still waiting for their chop before sending to the full House and Senate for their vote, and the conference committee actions to follow to resolve House and Senate differences, and with union employees and their jobs under threat. . .this is a far from done deal.

Really. Far.


21 posted on 03/25/2014 9:20:15 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: I want the USA back

And that half plus most of the other half have no clue about how budgets are made and passed.

This is the PB submitted to Congress. . .and this generates all sorts of congressional actions and wheeling and dealing. . .see my previous post.


22 posted on 03/25/2014 9:21:38 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Daus
Correct, new generations of stuff is what is being funded. LRASM & JAGM. These stories are just trolling people.

Thanks. But, in our defense, this is Obama, so you never know.

23 posted on 03/25/2014 9:23:05 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: LouAvul
Could you elaborate?

As with all weapon systems, there is always an ongoing battle between suppliers with competing platforms. Tomahawk is a "brand"... The military has been pushing a new generation program called LRASM (Long Range Air to Surface Missle) which is/was an open competition to who will supply that missle function going forward. Tomahawk II was one of the competitors.. There are other competing vendors and brands. Around 2 thousand LRAMS are budgeted to come online as the Tomahawks run out.

Same with Hellfire. There is a new generation program for that type of missle underway (JAGM, Joint Air to Ground Missle). It looks like a variation of Hellfire will win that competition. The military is just moving away from the existing brand names to new products identified by their boring internal monikers. LRASM and JAGM.
24 posted on 03/25/2014 9:40:31 AM PDT by Daus
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To: Daus

Correction: LRASM is Long Range Anti Ship


25 posted on 03/25/2014 9:46:58 AM PDT by Daus
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To: LouAvul
Missle Porn:

JASSM
LRASM
JAGM
26 posted on 03/25/2014 9:52:39 AM PDT by Daus
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To: Daus

Again, affirmative action will not work with on-the-job-training. A jackass will remain a jackass.


27 posted on 03/25/2014 9:54:40 AM PDT by JayAr36 (When an American dies Obama lies. And lies, and lies and lies forever.)
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To: WhiskeyX
Both systems, as you argue, are being replaced by follow on systems. But, they are all still on paper.

Isn't that the big argument about the F-35? Base a large strategic decision on something that hasn't proven itself yet?

28 posted on 03/25/2014 9:54:51 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: bestintxas
What will the "Drone Ranger" use against his enemies? Silver B-Bs?
29 posted on 03/25/2014 9:55:04 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: bestintxas

Savages. Nothing but savages. Feral dogs.


30 posted on 03/25/2014 9:56:17 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: WhiskeyX

They didn’t replace the space shuttle, now we are dependent on a hostile Russia to place and retrieve our astronauts. I doubt we can expect anything different this time.


31 posted on 03/25/2014 10:00:05 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: LouAvul

I am with you. I want replacements in place before getting ride of the old stuff. This is too much like Space Shuttle part 2.


32 posted on 03/25/2014 10:04:27 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: pfflier

Yes, and meanwhile the air refueling fleet is 20 years overdue for replacement, the Raptor procurement was cut to the point of being ineffective, the Navy carrier groups are cut to less than a three ocean or two ocean capability, the nuclear warhead stockpile is inadequate, tank development has virtually stagnated, and the combat brigades have practically become a constabulary force.


33 posted on 03/25/2014 10:10:31 AM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: Daus

Thanks.


34 posted on 03/25/2014 10:15:56 AM PDT by LouAvul (In a state of disbelief as to how liberals destroyed America in a mere 40 years.)
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To: WhiskeyX

Don’t forget the purges of star ranks going on right now too.


35 posted on 03/25/2014 10:46:12 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: bestintxas

Hoping to leave us more vulnerable and defenseless against enemy assault as part of the change Obama promised to bring.


36 posted on 03/25/2014 11:15:20 AM PDT by 353FMG
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