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Top Dem Hints at Forbidden Entitlement Cuts (Steny Hoyer)
Yahoo Finance ^ | Rob Garver - The Fiscal Times

Posted on 03/25/2014 11:36:24 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

The Republican Party is currently trying to sort out an internal battle between its dwindling stock of moderates who are occasionally willing to work with Democrats, and its hard-right base, which views compromise with Democrats in general, and President Obama in particular, as heresy. But in a speech Monday, Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-MD), the second-ranking Democrat in the House showed that there are significant fissures in the Democratic Party as well.

Hoyer, though nominally Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi’s second-in-command, is starkly different from Pelosi and many others on the party’s left wing when it comes to economic and fiscal issues. Hoyer spoke at an event sponsored by the self-described “centrist” group Third Way on Monday, delivering a firm defense of the “grand bargain” theory of fiscal policy.

Though his prepared remarks carefully omitted any reference to “entitlement reform,” Hoyer expressed his disappointment that the Simpson-Bowles commission’s recommendations were never adopted, and reiterated his support for a “big and balanced” deal to correct the nation’s fiscal course.

On the Democratic side of the aisle, the terms “big deal” and “balanced” are code words for agreements that include cuts to entitlement programs such as Social Security and Medicaid. And the Simpson-Bowles plan was famous for having something for everyone to hate. On the Democrats’ side, it was cuts to entitlement spending.

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REality sucks.. and so do the Dem's policies.
1 posted on 03/25/2014 11:36:24 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Too bad old Steny’s party doesn’t control the House or he might get his way.....but because they don’t, he’ll have a tough go at this one.


2 posted on 03/25/2014 11:40:58 AM PDT by irish guard
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To: NormsRevenge

What this really says is that Democrats will fight tooth and nail in perpetuity to keep the government payments to individuals at 70% or more of its yearly budget.

With the debt service requirements, the budget we NEED for defense against MUSLIMS, and the other basic necessities of government (few), this basically leaves sh!t-all for anything. IOW, we don’t have enough revenue and this is all being garnered in crushing debt. The day we will face when push comes to shove is coming - actually it’s here, but Democrats are to concerned with votes.


3 posted on 03/25/2014 11:41:11 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: NormsRevenge
When Democrats end up NEEDING to slash benefits, they will blame Republicans.

And the Propaganda Wing of the White House* will slavishly report at how mean Republicans are.

* (Propaganda Wing of the White House: Formerly and incorrectly known as the American 'news' media)

4 posted on 03/25/2014 11:45:51 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Yes, the dem policies are taking this country down a drain.


5 posted on 03/25/2014 11:50:16 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Isn’t this the guy who likes to walk around carrying women’s hand bags and holding hands with black guys?


6 posted on 03/25/2014 11:50:54 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I trust Steny as far as I can throw Chris Christie.


7 posted on 03/25/2014 11:54:31 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

> On the Democratic side of the aisle, the terms “big deal” and “balanced” are code words for agreements that include cuts to entitlement programs such as Social Security and Medicaid. And the Simpson-Bowles plan was famous for having something for everyone to hate. On the Democrats’ side, it was cuts to entitlement spending.

Yeah, that’s why they bailed on it. They’ll probably try to bind it to amnesty and tax increases. Thanks NormsRevenge.


8 posted on 03/25/2014 11:57:24 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NormsRevenge
The RUmors have hit the streets and a STRONG Negative Reaction amongst at least one group of Faithful Obama Devotees is growing by the minute


9 posted on 03/25/2014 11:57:34 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Oh, I forgot, also Partisan Media Shills ping — check out the opening paragraph of this screed.


10 posted on 03/25/2014 11:59:29 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Night Hides Not
"I trust Steny as far as I can throw Chris Christie Michael Moore."

Fixed - Christie has lost some weight lately.

11 posted on 03/25/2014 12:04:43 PM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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To: NormsRevenge
The Republican Party is currently trying to sort out an internal battle between its dwindling stock of moderates who are occasionally willing to work with Democrats, and its hard-right base, which views compromise with Democrats in general, and President Obama in particular, as heresy.

Not heresy, treason.

12 posted on 03/25/2014 12:23:26 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers
LOL...good point. Let's really fix this for those who may be unclear on the concept:

I trust Steny Hoyer as far as I can throw Chris Christie and Michael Moore...combined.

That should leave no doubt...lol.

13 posted on 03/25/2014 12:23:28 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: Night Hides Not

That works for me!


14 posted on 03/25/2014 12:34:52 PM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Nothing new, the dems always have the dead vote sewed up too.


15 posted on 03/25/2014 12:58:30 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

The problems with Obamacare demonstrate the Left’s dilemma: the changes which the Right are calling for may very well be the right & necessary thing to do, regardless of how difficult adherence to partisanship makes the choice. We had a big argument over Obamacare to the point of filibuster, which the Left won ... and then, faced with the reality of serious problems, the Left had to implement what the (R)s were demanding (or some approximation thereof).

Entitlements MUST be cut. It’s a politically scandalous issue which the Left fiercely opposes the Right over on the principle of never conceding your opponent’s point. Nonetheless, if cuts don’t happen the Left (and everyone else) will suffer grave harm. They’re looking for a way to spin the issue so they can come out looking like heroes over that which they so viciously opposed.


16 posted on 03/25/2014 1:30:31 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I’ve been pondering an “American Citizen Liberty” amendment to the US constitution.

What it would do is offer all citizens the right to “opt out” of any direct involvement with the federal government, without penalty.

If they chose to opt out of Social Security and Medicare or Obamacare, they could not be taxed to support them. And after consideration, I think even the military draft should be part of the opt out as well.

They could not be compelled into federal involvement through their employment or investments, or travel across state lines. Nor could they be denied a passport, nor forbidden goods or services provided to the public by a federal contract, or the US post office.

Any compelling federal interface, like an exact enumeration in a census, would have to be done through their state.

Granted, this idea needs work, but it is a good rough draft.


17 posted on 03/25/2014 1:53:46 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

We already tried that...I was called the Constitution. Worked pretty well until (some would say) Lincoln; most would theorize ~1910.

I mean, what other way to explain why D.C. cannot ‘define’ “Shall not be infringed”, “Congress SHALL make no Law” and a plethora of other simple-English phrases; but the Commerce CLAUSE negates the defined limits of A1S8 and all other anti-Fed practices....


18 posted on 03/25/2014 3:52:41 PM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

This is the truth.

I agree with Rush...it’s funny how Republicans always need to work with Democrats, but it doesn’t work the other way.

Steny Hoyer is not trustworthy. He’s from MARYLAND. Their state motto is “If you can think it, we can tax it”.


19 posted on 03/25/2014 5:55:58 PM PDT by woweeitsme
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To: NormsRevenge; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; Bigg Red; ...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


20 posted on 03/25/2014 7:42:20 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: NormsRevenge
the dims will make all nice and talk about compromise and balanced budgets and how everyone had to do "their share" to bring our national deficit under control....

but, they'll drop all pretense once the legislation gets going....they'll run to the SCM about how pubs are trying to steal SS and medicare and how can anyone make cuts to the "poor" in this economy?...

pubs...don't fall for it....let them make a bill....let them present it....

21 posted on 03/26/2014 10:17:17 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Gaffer

Right now we need to take every slice of cake they’ll give us. As time goes on our slice will get bigger and bigger. Slow and steady wins the race. We have a generation to undo the mess and starting in 2017 we’ll have a new GOP POTUS who will simply kick the chocks the Democrats and Obama have placed. Then our economy will zoom.


22 posted on 03/26/2014 10:31:05 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: NormsRevenge

Steny if facing a fiscally responsible republican candidate this year.... POTTER FOR CONGRESS!


23 posted on 03/27/2014 5:38:46 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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