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Donald Rumsfeld: A “Trained Ape” Could Manage War Better Than Obama (Video)
Gateway Pundit ^ | Tuesday, March 25, 2014, 12:48 PM | Jim Hoft

Posted on 03/25/2014 12:16:27 PM PDT by newgeezer

Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld told Greta Van Susteren on Monday, “A trained ape can get a status of forces agreement. It does not take a genius.”

Rumsfeld was talking about Barack Obama’s failed diplomacy in Iraq and Afghanistan.

CNS News reported:

Donald Rumsfeld, who served as U.S. Defense Secretary under President George W. Bush, blames poor diplomacy by the Obama administration for the current strained relations with Afghan President Hamid Karzai.

“Our relationship with Karzai and with Afghanistan was absolutely first-rate in the Bush administration,” Rumsfeld told Fox News’s Greta Van Susteren on Monday. “It has gone down hill like a toboggan ever since the Obama administration came in.”

Rumsfeld pointed to the fact that the Obama administration has failed to get Karzai to sign an agreement that would allow some U.S. troops to remain in Afghanistan after 2014, when combat ends.

The U.S. has status of forces agreements with more than a hundred countries, Rumsfeld noted. “A trained ape can get a status of forces agreement,” he said. “It does not take a genius. And we have so mismanaged that relationship.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; demagogicparty; dogwhistle; donaldrumsfeld; hamidkarzai; iraq; memebuilding; obama; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; planetofthrapes; trainedape; truth
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Saw this posted on Facebook. You can imagine how the leftists are commenting. I might ask why the mention of "ape" causes them to play the race card. (Who mentioned anything about race? Oh, yes, that's right, YOU did.)
1 posted on 03/25/2014 12:16:27 PM PDT by newgeezer
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To: newgeezer

Rummy as always is right and the fact that American troops will not be staying in Afghanistan is proof that Obama is incompetent.


2 posted on 03/25/2014 12:20:24 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: newgeezer

How long before some leftist says that Rummy called 0 an ape?


3 posted on 03/25/2014 12:21:01 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: newgeezer

Chris Matthews needs morphine, STAT!


4 posted on 03/25/2014 12:24:59 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: newgeezer

When you elect someone who has never had to are a decision in ther life more complex than what to order at a restaurant, this is what you get.


5 posted on 03/25/2014 12:25:46 PM PDT by matt04
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To: newgeezer

I love Rummy. He calls ‘em like he sees ‘em.


6 posted on 03/25/2014 12:26:40 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: Oliviaforever

So is Putin going to make a deal with Karzai to fund his government in return for mineral rights, then send in some spetsnaz force to protect him and eventually make it a Russian client state. Russia is already supplying Syria and Eqypt so why not? Yeah it didn’t work out so good for Russia before but you never know.


8 posted on 03/25/2014 12:27:58 PM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: newgeezer

Right on!


9 posted on 03/25/2014 12:28:36 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: I want the USA back

Yeah, that is gonna happen, even if he spoke the truth.


10 posted on 03/25/2014 12:29:11 PM PDT by dforest
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To: newgeezer

Dammit, Rumsfield, stop insulting trained apes!


11 posted on 03/25/2014 12:29:50 PM PDT by ssaftler (Obama speaking is like the Fat Lady warming up: "Me Me Me Me Meeee")
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To: newgeezer
Who mentioned anything about race? Oh, yes, that's right, [the leftists] did.

Exactly. That's all the leftists have, which is why they claim if so often.

12 posted on 03/25/2014 12:29:53 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: I want the USA back

I am a decided Conservative, with the capital C...yet it sounds racist to say that to me. But, Obama should have some tough skin by now and take it like a man. Or not.


13 posted on 03/25/2014 12:30:11 PM PDT by tioga
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To: newgeezer

It depends Don. If the Ape was trained in Marxism, the result probably wouldn’t be too different.


14 posted on 03/25/2014 12:32:41 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: dblshot
send in some spetsnaz force to protect him and eventually make it a Russian client state.

My own arm-chair general view - US should have never got involved in "nation building" in Afghanistan. It can not be done, and this will be proven in spades before too long.

Should have had minimal footprint, few boots on the ground, stay just over the border. Become another "tribe" in the conflict, albeit one with F-15's, drones and hellfire missiles to allow us to go after Al Qaeda when needed, and broker for their own conflicts.

16 posted on 03/25/2014 12:38:33 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: newgeezer

Oh boy, oh boy, THIS is gonna piss some people off! LOL


17 posted on 03/25/2014 12:38:53 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: PGR88

My feeling is that if we got involved in “nation building,” we should have stuck it out. The decent people in these countries (Iraq and Afghanistan) were happy to see us and obviously thought that they were going to have a stable, secular society as a result. But the first thing we did in both cases was kowtow to Islam (their ideology), which was exactly their problem in the first place, and then the second thing was to announce that we were leaving ASAP.

If we’d done the same after we occupied Germany, Hitler (or his successor) would probably now be running the world.


18 posted on 03/25/2014 12:42:41 PM PDT by livius
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To: newgeezer
“Our relationship with Karzai and with Afghanistan was absolutely first-rate in the Bush administration,”

Well yeah, he went to war against Iraq looking for mushroom clouds instead.

19 posted on 03/25/2014 12:43:07 PM PDT by ex-snook (God forgives because God is Love)
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To: I want the USA back; tioga; DungeonMaster
How long before some leftist says that Rummy called 0 an ape?

Many people of all political persuasions reflexively relate "ape" to people of African descent.

Personally, I blame Darwinism as much as any racist upbringing they might have endured.

Yes, Rummy could have made his point using "cats" instead of "apes" if he'd been measuring his words and stopped to consider what the actual racists would do with his remarks. But, I'm guessing he gladly gave up that nonsense upon retirement.

20 posted on 03/25/2014 12:44:52 PM PDT by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson, 1824)
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To: newgeezer

21 posted on 03/25/2014 12:46:18 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: newgeezer

What was Tom Cruise’s line in the movie Tropical Thunder....?
“... a nut-less monkey could do your job better than you...!!!”


22 posted on 03/25/2014 12:47:18 PM PDT by Texaspeptoman (Even cannibals get fed-up with people sometimes...!)
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To: newgeezer

an Ape?! so when do they let biden try?


23 posted on 03/25/2014 12:49:20 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: newgeezer

” Yes, Rummy could have made his point using “cats” instead of “apes” “


I dunno - I’ve never seen a trained cat.


24 posted on 03/25/2014 12:51:14 PM PDT by freedomlover
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To: newgeezer

LMAO Yep, Darwin was racist.


25 posted on 03/25/2014 12:52:22 PM PDT by tioga
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To: newgeezer

Good to read the truth.


26 posted on 03/25/2014 12:53:53 PM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: newgeezer

A trained ape could preside over the US better than Obama. Check, an untrained APE could, even.


27 posted on 03/25/2014 12:54:48 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: tioga

That’s a ridiculous conclusion but, whatever fits your narrative, hmm?


28 posted on 03/25/2014 12:58:58 PM PDT by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson, 1824)
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To: newgeezer
[Article] The U.S. has status of forces agreements with more than a hundred countries, Rumsfeld noted. “A trained ape can get a status of forces agreement,” he said. “It does not take a genius. And we have so mismanaged that relationship.”

Rumsfeld erroneously believes that Obama has any interest in bringing the policies of the Bush Administration to a successful conclusion.

In fact, I think he wants to achieve just the opposite outcome ..... deniably, of course, since it involves American dead.

29 posted on 03/25/2014 12:59:59 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: newgeezer

Lighten up. I can’t stop laughing, so I am being silly. I don’t laugh all that much lately, I needed it.


30 posted on 03/25/2014 1:00:29 PM PDT by tioga
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To: newgeezer

It is interesting that whenever someone uses the word “ ape” in almost any nonscientific context, the leftists immediately interpret it as a racist attack on African Americans. They go there instantly. Yes, there is definitely racism somewhere in that process.


31 posted on 03/25/2014 1:09:36 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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To: tioga

I am a decided Conservative, with the capital C...yet it sounds racist to say that to me.
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That is because you have been conditioned by the leftists to think in terms of race. Monkeys and apes have always been used as terms to describe confused human behavior. Nothing new here, only the insertion of liberal political correctness and race.


32 posted on 03/25/2014 1:13:37 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: newgeezer

No, folks. Secretary Rumsfeld is not calling Barack Obama a trained ape. He’s saying Barry’s dumber than a trained ape. Which I think pretty much everybody knew was true the minute he announced his running mate.


33 posted on 03/25/2014 1:15:38 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2016: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: iontheball

You are right. The left had no problem at all comparing Bush the second to apes and monkeys.


34 posted on 03/25/2014 1:17:31 PM PDT by tioga
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To: RichInOC

Even Biden could have gotten a status of forces agreement.


35 posted on 03/25/2014 1:18:23 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: newgeezer

nice of him to mention Michelle


36 posted on 03/25/2014 1:30:49 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: PGR88

I suspect/believe that there was much more to our involvement in Afghanistan than Al Qaeda. That the USA has over 100 ‘status of forces agreements’ with other nations is really a show of how extensive the USA’s involvement in the world is. This Nation has become so mired down in world problems that our own people are paying an exorbitant cost. I realize the world is not a 17 centuries one, but the Founding Fathers ideas for foreign entanglements should still have some guidance.


37 posted on 03/25/2014 1:31:30 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: dblshot

Sharing the US as a common enemy would go a long way with the Taliban. Do Russians care what happens to the citizens of that region? Of course not. Makes it easy to do business with them.


38 posted on 03/25/2014 1:32:05 PM PDT by griswold3 ("Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8".)
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To: newgeezer

I’m just wondering why Rumsfeld would boast about a first rate relationship with Karsai. This vituperous, waste of space is probably as worthless to our interests as B-HO.


39 posted on 03/25/2014 1:32:29 PM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: KoRn

I know, what an idiot. Why is he is giving the left ammunition? Why not say “an eggplant could do a better job” or something like that? All this does is help the left point fingers and the low info voters will believe it even more that the right are racist. What is trying to do, help Hillary get elected?


40 posted on 03/25/2014 1:40:08 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: newgeezer
A trained ape can get a status of forces agreement

That's worth being looked at and savored for a few minutes.
Reminds me of the time before the PC pandemic infested and defiled absolutely everything.
Anyone still remember, back when we were still citizens ?

No Guilt .. No Apologies .. No Exceptions

41 posted on 03/25/2014 1:40:49 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Now, I never said that he SHOULDN’T have said it. I have no problem with people speaking their minds. It’s a common saying: “You can train a monkey to do ‘x’”, or “Even a trained monkey can do ‘x’”. Of course, that will NOT matter in this case.

Then again, he could have probably chosen OTHER words to express the same thing. LOL

I just hope he doesn’t back down, go on some dumb ass ‘apology tour’, or check into “rehab”....


42 posted on 03/25/2014 1:54:11 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: newgeezer

What’s the problem. The libs preach Darwinism. They told us who his forefathers were. ;-)


43 posted on 03/25/2014 2:01:08 PM PDT by Average Al
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To: newgeezer

True, but poor choice of words.


44 posted on 03/25/2014 2:16:40 PM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic
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To: KoRn

No he shouldn’t apologize but no doubt libs are going to stretch this out for all it’s worth for the next month. I could just see tomorrows headlines: “Rummy makes racist remark!” and then all the usual clowns will hold protests and Hitlery will claim she is outraged to further her POTUS campaign.


45 posted on 03/25/2014 2:20:36 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: newgeezer

Rumsfeld is wrong. The ape wouldn’t have to be trained to be smarter than obama.


46 posted on 03/25/2014 2:31:32 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: newgeezer

“Aw,Barry, I’m sure Don didn’t mean anything by it. Here, have a banana.”


47 posted on 03/25/2014 2:33:37 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: newgeezer

“A trained ape can get a status of forces agreement. It does not take a genius.”

Or Slow Joe, or traitor Kerry-Heinz, or bought-n-paid-for Hagel for that matter.


48 posted on 03/25/2014 2:34:09 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (History is about to be repeated in the Third World of Progressive intellectual and moral depravity.)
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To: newgeezer

He mentioned toboggan as well. Is he implying that Obama isn’t American or Kenyan, but French Canadian?


49 posted on 03/25/2014 2:34:57 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: newgeezer

I have always(and I mean this honestly) always thought he looked like a chimpanzee. The ears especially. Now prove me wrong!


50 posted on 03/25/2014 2:40:51 PM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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