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Ukrainian ship captured by Russian forces
FOX News ^ | March 25, 2014 | Fox News' Greg Palkot and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Posted on 03/25/2014 1:16:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: FreeReign

So your saying a violent coup is a legal government and a vote is an illegal one. I’m not buying it.


61 posted on 03/25/2014 2:59:21 PM PDT by grania
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To: grania
Ukraine's inept governor was the lying Putinista, Yanukovich. He was impeached.

So your saying a violent coup is a legal government and a vote is an illegal one. I’m not buying it.

He was impeached. I pointed that out to you.

62 posted on 03/25/2014 3:02:05 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: grania

Foreign troops in the streets and a foreign-imposed referendum is legal? No. Especially since there was no option to stay part of Ukraine


63 posted on 03/25/2014 3:05:36 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I was criticized early for posting excerpts from FDR 1941 State of th Union earlier today.
It is NOT that I hold FDR in high esteem; rather I wanted to counter (tweak the noses) of the liberal Putin- loving isolationists posting here with words of their ‘sainted’ FDR:
“Our national policy is this:
First, by an impressive expression of the public will and without regard to partisanship, we are committed to all-inclusive national defense.
Secondly, by an impressive expression of the public will and without regard to partisanship, we are committed to full support of all those resolute peoples everywhere who are resisting aggression and are thereby keeping war away from our Hemisphere. By this support, we express our determination that the democratic cause shall prevail; and we strengthen the defense and the security of our own nation.
Third, by an impressive expression of the public will and without regard to partisanship, we are committed to the proposition that principles of morality and considerations for our own security will never permit us to acquiesce in a peace dictated by aggressors and sponsored by appeasers. We know that enduring peace cannot be bought at the cost of other people’s freedom.”
Also: “Therefore, the immediate need is a swift and driving increase in our armament production... I also ask this Congress for authority and for funds sufficient to manufacture additional munitions and war supplies of many kinds, to be turned over to those nations which are now in actual war with aggressor nations.
Our most useful and immediate role is to act as an arsenal for them as well as for ourselves. They do not need man power, but they do need billions of dollars worth of the weapons of defense.
The time is near when they will not be able to pay for them all in ready cash. We cannot, and we will not, tell them that they must surrender, merely because of present inability to pay for the weapons which we know they must have.
I do not recommend that we make them a loan of dollars with which to pay for these weapons — a loan to be repaid in dollars.
I recommend that we make it possible for those nations to continue to obtain war materials in the United States, fitting their orders into our own program. Nearly all their materiel would, if the time ever came, be useful for our own defense. Let us say to the democracies: “We Americans are vitally concerned in your defense of freedom. We are putting forth our energies, our resources and our organizing powers to give you the strength to regain and maintain a free world. We shall send you, in ever-increasing numbers, ships, planes, tanks, guns. This is our purpose and our pledge.”
In fulfillment of this purpose we will not be intimidated by the threats of dictators that they will regard as a breach of international law or as an act of war our aid to the democracies which dare to resist their aggression. Such aid is not an act of war, even if a dictator should unilaterally proclaim it so to be.
When the dictators, if the dictators, are ready to make war upon us, they will not wait for an act of war on our part. Their only interest is in a new one-way international law, which lacks mutuality in its observance, and, therefore, becomes an instrument of oppression.
The happiness of future generations of Americans may well depend upon how effective and how immediate we can make our aid felt. No one can tell the exact character of the emergency situations that we may be called upon to meet. The Nation’s hands must not be tied when the Nation’s life is in danger.”


64 posted on 03/25/2014 3:16:33 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: Jim Robinson

I would ban Russian ships at Odessa.


65 posted on 03/25/2014 3:44:27 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Mike Darancette
“...ban Russian ships at Odessa...”

That is a credible suggestion with extra symbolic implications due to that most famous communist propaganda film, THE BATTLESHIP POTEMKIN. Eisenstein's film had a Czarist massacre occur on Odessa's famous Boulevard steps which lead from the city center down to the harbor. In history there was no masacre there during the 1905 revolution.

Here (on a follow-up post) is a photo of family friends in front of a government school in the eastern Ukraine. Note the battleship mosaic on the school which depicts the Aurora in 1917 during the Red October Revolution. Such holdovers from the Soviet era can be spotted many places. The students by tradition bring flowers, candy, wine, or some gift to their teachers during the first day of class.

66 posted on 03/25/2014 9:18:10 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Mike Darancette
“...ban Russian ships at Odessa...”

That is a credible suggestion with extra symbolic implications due to that most famous communist propaganda film, THE BATTLESHIP POTEMKIN. Eisenstein's film had a Czarist massacre occur on Odessa's famous Boulevard steps which lead from the city center down to the harbor. In history there was no masacre there during the 1905 revolution.

Here (on a follow-up post) is a photo of family friends in front of a government school in the eastern Ukraine. Note the battleship mosaic on the school which depicts the Aurora in 1917 during the Red October Revolution. Such holdovers from the Soviet era can be spotted many places. The students by tradition bring flowers, candy, wine, or some gift to their teachers during the first day of class.

67 posted on 03/25/2014 9:18:21 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Mike Darancette
“...ban Russian ships at Odessa...”

That is a credible suggestion with extra symbolic implications due to that most famous communist propaganda film, THE BATTLESHIP POTEMKIN. Eisenstein's film had a Czarist massacre occur on Odessa's famous Boulevard steps which lead from the city center down to the harbor. In history there was no masacre there during the 1905 revolution.

Here (on a follow-up post) is a photo of family friends in front of a government school in the eastern Ukraine. Note the battleship mosaic on the school which depicts the Aurora in 1917 during the Red October Revolution. Such holdovers from the Soviet era can be spotted many places. The students by tradition bring flowers, candy, wine, or some gift to their teachers during the first day of class.

68 posted on 03/25/2014 9:18:28 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Mike Darancette
“...ban Russian ships at Odessa...”

That is a credible suggestion with extra symbolic implications due to that most famous communist propaganda film, THE BATTLESHIP POTEMKIN. Eisenstein's film had a Czarist massacre occur on Odessa's famous Boulevard steps which lead from the city center down to the harbor. In history there was no masacre there during the 1905 revolution.

Here (on a follow-up post) is a photo of family friends in front of a government school in the eastern Ukraine. Note the battleship mosaic on the school which depicts the Aurora in 1917 during the Red October Revolution. Such holdovers from the Soviet era can be spotted many places. The students by tradition bring flowers, candy, wine, or some gift to their teachers during the first day of class.

69 posted on 03/25/2014 9:18:37 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Mike Darancette
Oops that baby girl does not do a good job of posting on FR. Sorry about the multi-post. AlchevskSchoolVeraDanya photo veradanya2_zpsf15f498b.jpg
70 posted on 03/25/2014 9:31:16 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: FreeReign

True.


71 posted on 03/25/2014 11:03:53 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: tcrlaf

Are you making up stories as you go or you have actual source? Just not Russian or North Korean MSM, please.


72 posted on 03/26/2014 6:37:31 AM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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