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‘Permanent’ custody of Justina Pelletier awarded to Mass.
BOSTON GLOBE ^ | Patricia Wen

Posted on 03/25/2014 3:01:56 PM PDT by Morgana

A long-running child custody case took a dramatic turn Tuesday, when a Massachusetts juvenile court judge awarded “permanent” custody of teen-ager Justina Pelletier to the state Department of Children and Families.

The ruling by Judge Joseph Johnston leaves it up to the agency, not the court, to decide whether or when Pelletier should be returned to her West Hartford, Conn., home.

“It’s a huge ruling,” said a person who had been briefed on the decision. “It’s a setback for the parents.”

This person said the state, which has had temporary custody of Pelletier for more than a year, has no immediate plans to have the 15-year-old sent back home, or to a facility in her home state.

But a decision to award permanent custody can be revisited by the judge after six months, at the parents’ request. The judge made his order retroactive to late December, so a review could occur as soon as early summer.

Rev. Patrick Mahoney of the Washington D.C.-based Christian Defense Coalition, who has become the parents’ spokesman, said Tuesday that Lou and Linda Pelletier are “outraged” by the decision, though they have yet to get a written copy of it.

“There is no reason Justina should not be returned immediately back to the parents,” he said.

Mahoney said the parents continue to believe that their daughter is being “treated as a pawn and piece of property.”

Judge Johnston also denied a request by out-of-state lawyer Mathew Staver of Liberty Counsel in Florida to represent the girl’s parents.

(Excerpt) Read more at bostonglobe.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: injustice; justinapelletier; moralabsolutes; pelletier; prolife; taxachusetts
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Bloody hell?!
1 posted on 03/25/2014 3:01:56 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

God damned evil bastards.

I’m sorry, God.


2 posted on 03/25/2014 3:04:35 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Morgana

I would view this as nothing but kidnapping if this were to happen with any of my children, and I would treat it accordingly. The responsible individuals have to sleep somewhere....


3 posted on 03/25/2014 3:06:32 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Morgana

This is what happens when the Govt has too much power..THEY decide what happens to a child, NOT the parents..this is kidnapping and this will continue to happen under Obamacare..Govt decides what is best for the “Collective” not the parents


4 posted on 03/25/2014 3:08:21 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Morgana

Which party appointed this judge? I’ll give you a hint, it starts with Dumb.


5 posted on 03/25/2014 3:10:01 PM PDT by mistfree (It's the media stupid!)
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To: Morgana

I knew this was coming because of the judge’s repeated delays in delivering his decision. If he was going to return custody to the parents, he would have done so almost immediately and no shilly shallying about.

What is the family going to do now. Can they appeal to a higher court, to federal court?


6 posted on 03/25/2014 3:11:38 PM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: Morgana
I don't have a picture of Justina, but maybe this will do:


7 posted on 03/25/2014 3:11:48 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: KoRn

Yep.


8 posted on 03/25/2014 3:11:49 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Morgana

I think this despicable judge is simply trying to absolve himself of ANY responsibility for this tortured girl when he decided to assign responsibility to the State.

Both the involved hospital, the State and this Judge ARE RESPONSIBLE for this girl’s condition. They are doing all they can to keep her out of the hands of medical doctors who could render a diagnosis at odds with THEIR diagnosis and treatment.

Perhaps only once the girl is dead and an autopsy conducted will any of these vile creatures admit that “well, maybe she did suffer from more than neurosis”.

EVERY single one of the girl’s tormentors need to be fired, have their professional credentials revoked and sued into lifetime poverty.


9 posted on 03/25/2014 3:11:51 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Sarah Barracuda

This is a self fulfilling ruling. They have concluded she has psychiatric conditions, keep her in a locked facility and after treatment, she undoubtedly will have psychiatric conditons. I suspect she will not be released when she reaches majority, if she lives that long and the state can keep her forever to assure proof that they are right.


10 posted on 03/25/2014 3:12:49 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: Morgana
This will allow the State to Continue to do
research on the child which the State has been killing.

This is the young woman before
... and after State interference.


11 posted on 03/25/2014 3:14:00 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Morgana

Kidnapping with the force of law behind the perps.


12 posted on 03/25/2014 3:14:51 PM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Morgana

I saw this on Fox a couple of times-as for the judge and the state-que Dios los castigue...

I hope no parent ever trusts an institution of any kind again-get a lawyer first. I hope these parents get their daughter back on appeal-and a hefty settlement, too...


13 posted on 03/25/2014 3:14:58 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Morgana

Why is it that “liberals” always turn into jack booted fascists?

[ because they already are]


14 posted on 03/25/2014 3:15:38 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: House Atreides

“...once the girl is dead and an autopsy conducted...” If there’s an autopsy, it will say whatever the state wants it to say, and the remains will be quickly cremated before the parents know anything about it.


15 posted on 03/25/2014 3:15:42 PM PDT by ryderann
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To: Morgana

Mr. Pelletier should just tell the Democratic judge that he’s a child molester, and then the judge will give him custody back in a heartbeat on the grounds that he deserves “a second chance”.


16 posted on 03/25/2014 3:16:09 PM PDT by conservativeinbflo.
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To: House Atreides

That isn’t what they need.

I’ll leave it at that.


17 posted on 03/25/2014 3:16:11 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Morgana

The judge should be taken out of the picture by those who are more sensible and the replacement judge should be judged by the more sensible.


18 posted on 03/25/2014 3:18:29 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Morgana

Sadly not unbelievable. Some states and the feds are completely out of control.


19 posted on 03/25/2014 3:21:08 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Morgana

This is ####ed up.


20 posted on 03/25/2014 3:22:35 PM PDT by darkangel82
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To: Morgana

Maybe she’s like the girl on “Believe”.


21 posted on 03/25/2014 3:23:53 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: Morgana

Sorry, but if I were her father, I would hunt down this judge and give him the opinion of my model 700. Up close and in person. We have reached the point where a family cannot keep its children. That to me is too far, and extra-judicial means become justified. I will be damned if some judge will tell me I cannot keep my child in my family...Time to take action is now....


22 posted on 03/25/2014 3:24:25 PM PDT by majormaturity
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To: Morgana

This is stunning and I think there is more to this story. We were in a four year battle to obtain custody of my then three yo niece. Her mother, not married but living with the father was killed in a car accident. The father had a criminal record of drugs, theft, weapons charges and assault with a deadly weapon. At the time of her death there was a warrant for his arrest. He was never employed, had a dishonorable discharge as well as a diagnosed mental illness. There was evidence of child sexual abuse of his other child by a previous marriage.

The county we lived in did everything they could to reunite him with this child. ( In the best interest of the child) Everything, including lying and falsifying evidence. We eventually gained permanent custody but it was a long climb up. Incidentally, twenty-five years later he is in prison for first degree murder, serving a life sentence........we were right.

This is unlike any child protective service I have ever heard of.


23 posted on 03/25/2014 3:26:58 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Diogenesis

I pray she survives and sues the living crap out of them when she is able to get out.


24 posted on 03/25/2014 3:29:52 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Morgana

That judge needs to be disbarred and everyone involved in taking this child from her parents, should be brought up on kidnapping charges.

This is INSANE!!!!


25 posted on 03/25/2014 3:32:26 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it. ~ Albert Einstein)
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To: Morgana

Two things come to mind. Habeas Corpus or emancipation.


26 posted on 03/25/2014 3:33:59 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: Morgana

All your children are belong to us. - State of Massachusetts.


27 posted on 03/25/2014 3:39:04 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: majormaturity
extra-judicial means become justified...

Let me second that motion. These "civil" issues can no longer be resolved by "being civil." If the state insists on tyranny, let it reap its own reward.

28 posted on 03/25/2014 3:40:23 PM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: Morgana
Judge Rules Justina Pelletier to Remain in State’s Custody

In response to the Boston Globe’s report that the state will retain “permanent” custody, Staver said, “there’s no way they could have done that.”

The Pelletiers say their daughter’s health is deteriorating. Two weeks ago at the one in-person visit they’re allowed per week with her, they said they noticed marks on her stomach that were worrying enough that they called them to the attention of Justina’s caretakers, who took her to the emergency room the next day.

Jennifer Pelletier, Justina’s sister, said in the most recent visit, Justina’s legs were more swollen and she lost feeling in her feet.

On Monday, the Pelletiers and their lawyers filed a contempt of court motion against DCF.

“DCF has abused its authority. DCF had no right to come between Justina and medical care,” Staver continued, noting that DCF said it would not bring Justina to Tufts until after Tuesday’s decision.
29 posted on 03/25/2014 3:41:01 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it. ~ Albert Einstein)
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To: Morgana

So what’s really going on with this girl? I can’t help thinking there’s something fairly basic about this situation that isn’t making it into these stories. Is there an allegation that the parents are causing some or all of the problem?


30 posted on 03/25/2014 3:42:04 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: mistfree
Which party appointed this judge? I’ll give you a hint, it starts with Dumb.

And you would be wrong. He was appointed by Governor Swift, a Republican.

31 posted on 03/25/2014 3:42:08 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Morgana

This judge has an address.


32 posted on 03/25/2014 3:44:19 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

Organize a march on his home and courthouse. Hundreds with placards, maybe thousands. They need to make a big, big stink outta this deal in public.


33 posted on 03/25/2014 3:47:33 PM PDT by biff (WAS)
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To: Morgana

www.paulreverepress.org
34 posted on 03/25/2014 3:50:59 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: biff

The only press the parents get is from The Blaze and Beck.

I’m less concerned by Putin and Karzai than what our own government is doing to us right here and now.


35 posted on 03/25/2014 3:51:29 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: Truth29

Being in an institution like that, she WILL become crazy..this is what happens when liberals run things, this is what they do..if Im a parent and I have a sick child I would be terrified to bring him/her to the hospital, this can happen to ANYONE


36 posted on 03/25/2014 3:56:29 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Lucky9teen

I’m speechless over this also-—it makes no sense.

I wonder if there’s something we aren’t being told although the way thing are today nothing would surprise me.

What a world.

.


37 posted on 03/25/2014 3:56:58 PM PDT by Mears (7 syllables is too tough for)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
[Judge Johnston] was appointed by Governor Swift, a Republican.

Ah yes! Fat Jane from North Adams. Quite the RINO was she!

38 posted on 03/25/2014 3:57:10 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: TurboZamboni

This case is also getting press on “The Howie Carr Show,”
a radio show broadcast every weekday afternoon from Boston to all six New England states and beyond.


39 posted on 03/25/2014 4:06:19 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I don't want to feel "safe." I want to feel FREE!)
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To: Morgana

The state of MA is purposely murdering this child.


40 posted on 03/25/2014 4:07:31 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Valpal1

It’s a final judgment and fully appealable.


41 posted on 03/25/2014 4:07:44 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Morgana

I wonder if the dad puts out the call, if patriots would respond. Go and get your child.


42 posted on 03/25/2014 4:10:02 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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I’m with you.


43 posted on 03/25/2014 4:21:05 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Morgana

A precedent has been set. Mission complete. Beware of what lies ahead. It’s coming, folks.


44 posted on 03/25/2014 4:44:00 PM PDT by Obama_Is_A_Feminist
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To: icwhatudo

Would be awesome if the SEALs intervened, but that would only get them assigned to a doomed helicopter ride in some remote place like Extortion 17 was.


45 posted on 03/25/2014 4:46:09 PM PDT by Obama_Is_A_Feminist
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To: conservativeinbflo.
Mr. Pelletier should just tell the Democratic judge

The judge is a Republican, appointed by Governor Swift.

46 posted on 03/25/2014 4:49:43 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Republicans don’t do this, so he must be one IN NAME ONLY, like Boehner, Graham, McCain, blah blah blah.


47 posted on 03/25/2014 4:52:31 PM PDT by Obama_Is_A_Feminist
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To: Obama_Is_A_Feminist

Just seems like there has to be moment. A moment when citizens say enough is enough. Some sort of spark. Are only the people in Venezuela and Ukraine brave enough to take to the streets? I wish the dad would put out the call. Thousands of activists storming the hospital and rescuing this poor girl could be the start of something bigger...


48 posted on 03/25/2014 4:56:11 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: Morgana
The judge's decision is here.
49 posted on 03/25/2014 5:02:57 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Morgana
This case reminds me of the Terry Schindler Schiavo case, where a judge ordered that Terry be dehydrated and starved to death. He not only said that the feeding tube had to be removed but no one was allowed to feed her or give her water by mouth.

Terry was made into a test case giving the Government the right to kill us if the government decides we have a low quality of life. Is this young girl some kind of test case too? Is this case for setting some kind of precedent to allow the state to arbitrarily decide to take the children away if the state disagrees with how the parents are raising their children.

50 posted on 03/25/2014 5:08:03 PM PDT by FR_addict
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