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Another criminal proposal by the EPA to control everyone's lives.
1 posted on 03/25/2014 3:37:58 PM PDT by jazusamo
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Another criminal proposal by the EPA to control everyone's lives.

Yep. More to come since MORON voters voted in Democrats.

2 posted on 03/25/2014 3:40:37 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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The EPA’s demise should be the first act of a new president and a Republican Congress.


3 posted on 03/25/2014 3:40:40 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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ENUMERATED POWERS! It ain’t rocket science. Even a cursory reading of the US Constitution demonstrates that the EPA is outside the legal boundaries of fedgov authority.

We have let this happen by way of 100 years of allowing ourselves to be hoodwinked by criminal elitists and blowhard do-gooders who are content to take this nation down the socialist rabbit hole, one step, one inch at a time.

It’s well past time to put a stop to it. I pray we can still recover the greatness that was America.


5 posted on 03/25/2014 3:46:33 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: Nachum

For the list.


6 posted on 03/25/2014 3:46:37 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Amendment10

Ping.


7 posted on 03/25/2014 3:47:20 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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Agenda 21 is a direct assault on private property rights and American sovereignty


8 posted on 03/25/2014 3:49:52 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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Congress could stop this crap, if they had the desire to do so.


10 posted on 03/25/2014 3:52:10 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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Agenda 21...Agenda 21! They can’t get it through Congress so they will try anything they can to steal our land with “regulations”.


14 posted on 03/25/2014 4:04:26 PM PDT by WellyP (question!)
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Don’t spit in your back yard. It will be declared a wetland.


15 posted on 03/25/2014 4:06:03 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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All you water are belong to us.
17 posted on 03/25/2014 4:09:59 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it.")
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Only one solution: Shut down (or radically diminish) the EPA.


20 posted on 03/25/2014 4:15:23 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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I guess that means that the EPA considers the big puddle in my back yard from the snow melting is a “navigable waterway.” Talk about power hunger idiocy.


21 posted on 03/25/2014 4:16:47 PM PDT by GreyFriar ( Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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Those fortunate enough to have a seasonal or not stream or pond are generally involved in caring for the land anyway as part of their livelihoods. I doubt they need EPA nannies flicking switches at their ankles.


22 posted on 03/25/2014 4:18:20 PM PDT by blueplum
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The commies see the writing on the November wall and are setting their claws in while they can.

Defund, defund, defund. Let these rats lose THEIR houses, for once.


23 posted on 03/25/2014 4:19:26 PM PDT by txhurl
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Just another incremental step toward implementation of Agenda 21.


25 posted on 03/25/2014 4:22:12 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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Defund the EPA NOW!


29 posted on 03/25/2014 4:49:34 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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EPA and the Army Corps of Engineers said Tuesday that determining Clean Water Act protection for streams and wetlands became "confusing and complex" so just give us control over everything to clear things up.
34 posted on 03/25/2014 5:10:54 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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to further agenda 21 and force people off their land.

we gotta end this sh1t now.


37 posted on 03/25/2014 5:39:08 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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and unless we run and elect people who do more than lip service about shutting down rogue alphabet agencies, they will just let them continue on.


38 posted on 03/25/2014 5:40:28 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Do y'all remember discussions in this message board concerning how socialists are trying to unconstitutionally expand the federal government's powers using the federal government's power to negotiate treaties? Current related issues concern Constitution-ignoring USA politicians working through the UN to try to force US citizens to comply with foreign laws. Examples of such laws are gun control, parenting control and Agenda 21 issues, issues which the states have never delegated to Congress, via the Constitution, the specific power to address.

Thanks to information I recently got from freeper Ben Fiklin in a related thread, I had done some scratching and discovered the following. In the early 20th century and with the help of activist justices, Congress had evidently used its power to negotiate treaties to usurp 10th Amendment-protected state power to regulate water rights imo.

More specifically, although I'm happy that Native Americans were insured a supply of water for agricultural purposes, as evidenced by the Supreme Court's decision in Winters v. United States activist justices had given Congress the green light to Congress to regulate intrastate water rights, such federal legislative powers wrongly interpolated from Congress's power to negotiate treaties imo.

More specifically, activist justices had argued that the Supremacy Clause, Section 2 of Article VII, in conjunction with Congress's power to negotiate treaties, trumped 10th Amendment-protected states power to regulate water. In fact, the justice who had argued that treaties trump the 10th Amendment, Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr., is one of main justices credited for fostering the idea of the "living Constitution."

However, regarding such a perspective on the scope of Congress's power to negotiate treaties, and as similarly noted with respect to controversial United Nations issues, please consider the following. Thomas Jefferson, based on his experience as Vice President and President of the Senate, had officially clarified that Congress cannot use its power to negotiate treaties as a back door to establish new powers for itself, powers not based on the limited powers which the states have delegated to Congress via the Constitution.

“In giving to the President and Senate a power to make treaties, the Constitution meant only to authorize them to carry into effect, by way of treaty, any powers they might constitutionally exercise.” —Thomas Jefferson: The Anas, 1793.

“Surely the President and Senate cannot do by treaty what the whole government is interdicted from doing in any way.” —Thomas Jefferson: Parliamentary Manual, 1812.

Also note that the Supreme Court had later reflected on Jefferson's words, clarifing that Congress cannot use it's power to negotiate treaties as a backdoor way to expand its constitutionally-limited powers.

"2. Insofar as Art. 2(11) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice provides for the military trial of civilian dependents accompanying the armed forces in foreign countries, it cannot be sustained as legislation which is "necessary and proper" to carry out obligations of the United States under international agreements made with those countries, since no agreement with a foreign nation can confer on Congress or any other branch of the Government power which is free from the restraints of the Constitution (emphasis added)." --Reid v. Covert, 1956.

So while patriots have recently been concerned about "closing the barn door so the horses can't escape," stopping corrupt Congress from using its power to negotiate treates to limit constitutional rights with the help of the UN, little did we know that one horse had already escaped from the barn in the early 20th century, compliments of activist justices.

Also regarding the EPA, note that the Founding States had made the first numbered clauses in the Constitution, Sections 1-3 of Article I, evidently a good place to hide them from Congress, to clarify that all federal legislative powers are vested in the elected members of Congress, not in the executive or judicial branches or in non-elected government bureaucrates. So Congress has a constitutional monopoly on federal legislative / regulatory powers whether it wants it or not imo. So not only has Congress wrongly delegated legislative powers to non-elected bureaucrats in blatant defiance of the previous mentioned clauses, but Congress has delegated powers that the states have never granted to Congress via the Constitution, regulating water rights in this example.

Are we having fun yet?

41 posted on 03/25/2014 5:50:46 PM PDT by Amendment10
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