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Fighting to get the trout back
The Mohave Daily News ^ | March 24, 2014 | Neil Young

Posted on 03/25/2014 4:45:30 PM PDT by Hildy

BULLHEAD CITY — Mohave County will explore every avenue to keep the 50-year-old Willow Beach National Fish Hatchery rainbow trout stocking program going, said District 2 Sup. and Board of Supervisors Chairwoman Hildy Angius, R-Bullhead City, as she updated the Colorado River Tea Party Patriots at their Saturday meeting.

The program is of great economic benefit to the Tri-state, which relies on sport fishing to help draw tourists to the area.

Before the stocking program was suspended, an estimated 4,000 trout were stocked monthly below Davis Dam. The Bullhead City Council passed a resolution in February requesting the Fish and Wildlife Service to reconsider the ending of the program.

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service said two intake pipes that feed the trout hatchery need repairs and there is no money available. Two massive trout die-offs occurred in August and November of last year, killing 40,000 and 20,800 trout respectively. Piping from the river was clogged with vegetation in August and in November; water flows in the river dropped below the elevation of the hatchery water intake pumps. Hatchery workers were able to save the remaining 11,000 trout by releasing them into the river.

Angius and District 3 Sup. Buster Johnson, R-Lake Havasu City, recently traveled to Washington, D.C., to attend a legislative conference of the National Association of Counties. The U.S. House Natural Resources Committee subcommittee on Fisheries, Wildlife, Oceans and Insular Affairs happened to be holding a hearing concerning hatcheries at the same time. County staff assembled material for Angius to take to Washington. She met with committee staff members and briefed them on the history of the Willow Beach hatchery.

During the hearing, Angius reported, David Hoskins, U.S. Fish and Wildlife assistant director, admitted his department did not perform an economic impact study, did not have a public input period, and did not contact Mohave County to inform the county of its decision to end the program.

Angius said she met with Hoskins and he told her there was no money to repair the pipe.

There was a follow-up meeting in Denver on March 13, during which Arizona Game and Fish Department representatives and Mohave County Administrator Mike Hendrix presented solutions to Hoskins to save the program, Angius said. Game and Fish has offered to donate excess trout from its hatchery system to Willow Beach until the facility is repaired.

“We have a lot of people helping us behind the scenes,” Angius said. “Chris Cantrell and Jim Devos from Arizona Game and Fish have come forward with offers of assistance and ideas. Sen. (John) McCain, Sen. (Jeff) Flake and Congressman (Paul) Gosar have been instrumental in letting the agency know that what they are doing is unacceptable.” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., has also spoken in favor of retaining the program. Others have weighed in on the future of the hatchery program throughout the West, including Nevada Sen. Dean Heller, Nevada Congressman Joe Heck, Arizona congress members Trent Franks and Ann Kirkpatrick, New Mexico Congressman Ben Lujan, Idaho Sens. Mike Crapo and James Risch, Utah Sens. Orrin Hatch and Mike Lee, and Wyoming Sen. John Barrasso.

“This is not a partisan issue. This is a future of the West issue,” Angius said.

Angius said she is scheduled to testify before the U.S. House Committee on Appropriations subcommittee on Interior, Environment and Related Agencies on April 10. She said she “will request that the broken pipe be repaired immediately and the rainbow trout stocking program at Willow Beach be fully funded.”

The program is part of a mitigation for the environmental impact of the Hoover Dam. “They have a legal obligation to keep it as a mitigation hatchery,” Angius said. “They contend Willow Beach is not a mitigation hatchery. We contend that it is. We believe we have the proof.”


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: fishing; trout

1 posted on 03/25/2014 4:45:31 PM PDT by Hildy
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2 posted on 03/25/2014 4:48:59 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: Hildy

But we had 5 billion to give to the Ukrainian Maidan “socialist national” movement.

Id rather have a trout hatchery


3 posted on 03/25/2014 4:49:16 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

It’s all agenda driven.


4 posted on 03/25/2014 4:50:32 PM PDT by Hildy (Falling down is how you grow. Staying down is how you die.)
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To: Hildy
Can't we see some gyrl trop dropz?

It's for the fishzes.

5 posted on 03/25/2014 4:56:56 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Most of the stocked trout provide food for the striped bass.

CC


6 posted on 03/25/2014 5:25:58 PM PDT by Captain Compassion
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To: SJackson

Ping


7 posted on 03/25/2014 5:28:53 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Hildy

Dear Mojave County,

Hold a bake sale. Buy your own damned trout.

Leave the rest of us taxpayers out of it.

Thanks in advance.

L


8 posted on 03/25/2014 5:29:36 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Hildy

It’s only taxpayer money they want to spend.


9 posted on 03/25/2014 5:35:38 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Hildy

Dear Mohave county trout lovers.
Y’all are going about this from the wrong angle. You gotta set the right bait to get the enviroweenies hooked. Something along the lines of, Help us Greenies! Trout is bear food. Without trout all the bears in the world will starve to death. Oh noos! the horror!! the anguish!! Now go get y’all some private enviro funding and laugh all the way to the lake. happy fishing :)


10 posted on 03/25/2014 6:29:42 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: Hildy

A Game Warden always noticed that Old John always caught his limit of fish. One day he finally asked Old John how he always got his limit. Old John invited him to go along. It wasn’t long til they got to Old John’s favorite spot and anchored.

Old John reaches down into his tackle box and pulls out a stick of dynamite...lit it and threw it in the lake. KA-BOOM
Now there’s fish floating all over the place. “Whoa” said the warden “that’s illegal”. Well, Old John just reaches in and pulls out another stick. He lights it and throws it in.
KA-BOOM, more fish!

The Warden starts giving John the third degree, “John, I am going to have to arrest you if you do that again. It’s illegal to have dynamite, let alone use it for fishing”. While the warden is giving him the third degree, Old John just reaches in the tackle box and pulls out another stick of dynamite, lights it and tosses it to the Warden and said “Now, you gonna talk all day or fish”?


11 posted on 03/25/2014 6:55:01 PM PDT by Redcitizen (When a zombie apocalypse starts, Chuck Norris doesn't try to survive. The zombies do.)
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To: Lurker

Excuse me Mr. Lurker, when the Hoover dam was built, the government. Made a contract to fix the damage that was done. That was 55 years ago. I agree with you, ultimately the State and/or County should and will take this over. But to end this program it without so much as a courtesy call will right now destroy our economy which is tourist based. Sport fishing puts billions of dollars into the economy across the Country. Of all the programs to cut now, this is not one of the. Do you have any idea how much money goes to endangered species? Your government is still spending the same amount of money, actually more, on endangered species that have a less than 1% survival rate in the water. It’s complicated.


12 posted on 03/25/2014 7:15:42 PM PDT by Hildy (Falling down is how you grow. Staying down is how you die.)
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To: blueplum

Actually, substitute wolf. That’s another thing we are fighting here. the Feds are surrounding opus with wolves. We did toy with the idea to tell the ages that the Wolves eat trout and we were sure they wouldn’t take it away.


13 posted on 03/25/2014 7:19:40 PM PDT by Hildy (Falling down is how you grow. Staying down is how you die.)
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To: Hildy

There is no such thing as a “contract” with the government. That’s been litigated to death.

This country is BROKE.

Buy your own damned trout. Keep your grubby paws off my paycheck.

L


14 posted on 03/25/2014 7:20:39 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

In addition, we have offered to cost share and buy fish privately.. They won’t let us put “non-compliant” fish into the federal waterways. they have their own rules and regulations.. So I ask you, if you represented people who built their lives and livelihoods around a program that was legally mandated, what would you do?


15 posted on 03/25/2014 7:22:05 PM PDT by Hildy (Falling down is how you grow. Staying down is how you die.)
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To: Lurker

I wish we could. but they won’t let us and I will not allow my County to wither and die because of their mismanagement. But I respect your opinion. You don’t have to be so nasty.


16 posted on 03/25/2014 7:25:27 PM PDT by Hildy (Falling down is how you grow. Staying down is how you die.)
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To: PAR35

It’s all taxpayer money .. Everything. that’s the set up.. That’s the control. You tell the federal government to give the publicly held lands that they are illegally holding back to the States and you’ll see a boom in this Country like you’ve never seen. We are dying out here and the federal government is taking more of our land every day.


17 posted on 03/25/2014 7:41:19 PM PDT by Hildy (Falling down is how you grow. Staying down is how you die.)
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To: Hildy
the publicly held lands that they are illegally holding back to the States

When did they take the lands from the states?

18 posted on 03/25/2014 7:45:47 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Hildy

What would I do? I’d find a way for my County to buy its own damned trout and tell the Feds to go pee up a rope.

Screw their rules and regulations. Get the County Sheriff to tell them to get the hell out of his jurisdiction.

Stop being a sheep.


19 posted on 03/25/2014 7:47:08 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Hildy

Ask Trout Unlimited. They seem to stick their noses into everything.


20 posted on 03/25/2014 7:48:34 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: PAR35
Really? Check is out: American lands Council
21 posted on 03/25/2014 7:59:45 PM PDT by Hildy (Falling down is how you grow. Staying down is how you die.)
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To: blueunicorn6

Already have


22 posted on 03/25/2014 8:00:00 PM PDT by Hildy (Falling down is how you grow. Staying down is how you die.)
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To: Lurker

Where do you live?


23 posted on 03/25/2014 8:00:42 PM PDT by Hildy (Falling down is how you grow. Staying down is how you die.)
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To: Lurker

I’m with you on that. Move here and help me do that.


24 posted on 03/25/2014 8:01:30 PM PDT by Hildy (Falling down is how you grow. Staying down is how you die.)
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To: Hildy

Really? Not sure what you want me to look at there. But if Arizonans persist in claiming federal lands, statehood should be revoked.

http://www.azlibrary.gov/is/statehood/documents/36stat557-579.pdf

Start with Section 20 on page 569, with particular attention to the paragraph starting with the word ‘Second’ near the bottom of the page. See also paragraph ‘Seventh’ on page 570.

The corresponding provisions of the state act can be found on the second page here: http://www.azleg.state.az.us/const/enabling.pdf


25 posted on 03/25/2014 8:21:17 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

It’s not federal land. it’s land held in trust that was supposed to be returned to us like all the states in he east were afforded. I don’t know what you are talking about.


26 posted on 03/25/2014 9:10:38 PM PDT by Hildy (Falling down is how you grow. Staying down is how you die.)
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To: PAR35

So on one hand I am being told here that we should run our own trout program and “keep our grubby no hands off your money.” I am telling you that because it is being managed by the federal government we can’t. THEY WON’T LET US. so we are at their mercy. And now you tell me that if we try to get OUR land back, our Statehood should be revoked. Make up your minds.


27 posted on 03/25/2014 9:19:57 PM PDT by Hildy (Falling down is how you grow. Staying down is how you die.)
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To: Lurker

I don’t know about other states, but here most of the costs of stocking are covered by license fees. Not everyone fishes, true, and those who do not may resent “paws” on their paycheck contributing to it. But then, the same can be said for public libraries; not everyone uses them. Should we “grubby paws off my paycheck” those too?


28 posted on 03/26/2014 8:16:37 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

At the local level taxes for libraries are fine with me. Trouble is you local library gets federal money, too. So yes, grubby paws should be off my paycheck there, too.


29 posted on 03/26/2014 8:47:15 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: JimRed

Our license fees go to the State. This is a Federal program. So people still have to pay for a trout sticker although there’s no trout. Just to clarify: The stopping of this program is not saving anyone a dime. The money is still allocated..it’s just all going to be used for endangered species instead of something that serves people and generates an awful lot of money.


30 posted on 03/26/2014 1:33:23 PM PDT by Hildy (Falling down is how you grow. Staying down is how you die.)
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To: Hildy
it’s land held in trust that was supposed to be returned to us like all the states in he east were afforded.

No, it wasn't. The rules were specifically different for New Mexico and Arizona than for earlier admitted states. And if you'd read the federal and territorial acts at the links in post 25, you would see that. "That in lieu of the grant of land for purposes of internal improvements made to new States by the eighth section of the Act of September fourth, eighteen hundred and forty-one, and in lieu of the swamp land grant made by the Act of September twenty-eight, eighteen hundred and fifty, and section twenty-four hundred and seventy-nine of the Revised Statutes, and in lieu of the grant of thirty thousand acres for each Senator and Representative in Congress, made by the Act of July second, eighteen hundred and three, which grants are hereby declared not to extend to the said State"
specific enumerated acreage grants were made.

31 posted on 03/26/2014 6:03:39 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Hildy
I am off to Washington to testify in front of the Appropriations Committee, subcommittee on Interior, environment and related agencies. I am not asking for more money. I am asking them to follow the law and spend the money how it was intended 52 years ago. If anyone wants to know more, mail me privately. COMMITTEE INFORMATION
32 posted on 04/09/2014 2:04:49 PM PDT by Hildy (Falling down is how you grow. Staying down is how you die.)
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