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Rationed Food and Purposeful Starvation
Canada Free Press ^ | October 28, 2013 | Dr. Ileana Johnson Paugh

Posted on 03/25/2014 10:02:17 PM PDT by No One Special

I remember our daily food always coming from a long, long line at the end of which was a loaf of bread, a liter of milk, a stick of butter, a bottle of murky cooking oil, or a kilo of bones with traces of meat and fat on them.

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If we wanted to eat, we learned at a very young age that we had to stand in long lines every day, often in bitter cold at 4 a.m. in hopes that the store would not run out of bread or milk by the time we made it to the front counter.

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It wasn’t that the country did not produce enough food in spite of its disastrous centralized communist party planning. The mad dictator Ceausescu was determined to industrialize the country at the expense of people’s food – he exported so much to the West in exchange for technology and hard currency that the Romanians had to make do with the leftover food not fit for export.

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But that was nothing compared to the Soviet plan to starve the Romanian population of Bessarabia in 1946-1947 in order to achieve collectivization. According to the 1897 census, almost 48% of the population was Moldovan and thus spoke Romanian. Bessarabia and Northern Bucovina were Romanian-held prior to the military occupation by the Soviet Red Army during June 28-July 4, 1940. To avoid a military conflict, Romania withdrew from the area following a Soviet ultimatum delivered on June 26. The Romanian province was recaptured by Ion Antonescu from 1941-1944 and then reoccupied by the Soviets in 1944. The regions were subsequently incorporated into the USSR....

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: bessarabia; communist; deathtoputin; moldova; northernbucovina; prepper; putinisanatheist; ration; romania; russia; starvation; survival
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1 posted on 03/25/2014 10:02:17 PM PDT by No One Special
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To: No One Special

Learn from history. Do not tolerate those who would create such conditions. As they will do violence to enforce their means and ends, let them know they will not escape the same as individuals enforce their rights.


2 posted on 03/25/2014 10:15:08 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: No One Special

Save


3 posted on 03/25/2014 11:09:48 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: No One Special

I was a little too young to understand what was going on but i do not think it all came about over night, by the time people became aware it was too late.

Is it too late here or can we stop it.

The agricultural five year plan was developed by communist bureaucrats who were community organizers with very little experience at producing anything and very little formal education. They were schooled in the fine art of radical agitation.

Sound familiar?


4 posted on 03/26/2014 1:02:48 AM PDT by ravenwolf (ost void of pend)
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To: ravenwolf

Yes, it does sound familiar and the author knows of where she speaks because she was born and raised in communist Romania.

It was a different time and I can certainly understand the longing for a more perfect world. It was probably only a hundred years ago that average men for the first time were able to earn enough so they had some spare time to enjoy the fruits of their labor. So it was only natural to ask, “Why cannot we feed the world.” And the answer came back, “Government power can do that.”

Well some of us learned that wasn’t the case and said, “Stop the slaughteer.” But others learned that a politician’s appeal to the basest of human instincts can result in a cushy life-style. So there’s your greed and it needs to be pointed out and then maybe one day we will feed the world.


5 posted on 03/26/2014 2:39:18 AM PDT by No One Special
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To: No One Special

ping


6 posted on 03/26/2014 2:50:53 AM PDT by gattaca (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Ecclesiastes10:2)
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To: No One Special

This article shows - at least to me - that if these times come to America - preppers will be no better off than people like me. You can’t hide foodstuffs from evil people determined to find it and steal it.


7 posted on 03/26/2014 3:02:38 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein
My idea of being a prepper is to have enough essentials to provide for you and your loved ones to outlast an initial shock of a catastrophe, maybe up to 3 months. If it is really bad, with rationing and hunting, perhaps a year. Anything longer than that and we will probably be pooling resources with others in a tribal community.
8 posted on 03/26/2014 3:55:44 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: No One Special

The way we’re going, there’s a good chance this will not only come to America, but will be willingly voted in, probably under some banner about making sure everyone has food.


9 posted on 03/26/2014 4:41:02 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: No One Special
-----“Stop the slaughteer.”----

Slaughter stopping event

11 posted on 03/26/2014 4:55:21 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: No One Special

Everyone in the world knows what COMMUNISM does to the country and the people in it, but yet, there are still people that will vote for LIBERALS, SOCIALISTS AND COMMUNISTS in every country that they run in. Look what COMMUNISM has done in Venezuela. Look what they’ve done to GREECE. Look what they’ve done to SPAIN. And closer to us, look what LIBERALS, SOCIALISTS and COMMUNISTS have done to every town, city or state in this country. All I hear from these stupid voters, when a liberal, socialist or communist politician that runs for election is “HE’S FOR THE PEOPLE” or “SHE’S FOR THE PEOPLE”. Are these voters that stupid?


12 posted on 03/26/2014 5:19:43 AM PDT by gingerbread
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To: No One Special

My wife grew up in a culture where they never had enough food, clothing or other essentials.
Although she’s been a US citizen for 40+ years, old habits are hard to break.
She hoards food, medicine, and items of necessity. We could probably survive for 2 years or more on her stash.
I’m not going to change her, because it makes her feel secure.


13 posted on 03/26/2014 5:36:14 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Freedom isn't free; nor is it easy. END ALL TOTALITARIAN ACTIVITY NOW.)
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To: ctdonath2

Most sheeperal would vehemently deny that the policies they support would lead to such a thing - “that’s not what we’re doing/intending”.

I had a sheeperal last night vehemently deny that Obamacare was about control, even though I brought up numerous examples of loss of freedom of choice due to the new laws.

All she could say was “well, not everyone is going to be happy”.


14 posted on 03/26/2014 5:39:38 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Kartographer

ping


15 posted on 03/26/2014 6:05:47 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!

Hat tip to Whenifhow for the heads up.


16 posted on 03/26/2014 6:15:03 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: gingerbread
Are these voters that stupid?

Apparently they are. I know a few gun owners that still vote for Democrats, which makes NO sense at all.

17 posted on 03/26/2014 6:25:15 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: bert

Such a pretty picture.


18 posted on 03/26/2014 6:26:31 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Kartographer

Food has historically been one of the most effective weapons in a despot’s arsenal.


19 posted on 03/26/2014 6:27:19 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lazamataz
Food has historically been one of the most effective weapons in a despot’s arsenal.

I do believe MO has been hounding us about food from the moment she became First Lady....does she just wish this power or is she trying to wield it? and she started with the children.

20 posted on 03/26/2014 6:31:47 AM PDT by tioga
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To: ctdonath2
"Do not tolerate those who would create such conditions."

Eventually every discussion comes back to resisting the gun-grabbing bastards, doesn't it?

21 posted on 03/26/2014 6:32:44 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: No One Special

Our government is slowly making ‘progress’ in this direction.

Here is an aspect of the food stamp presidency not mentioned in media articles praising Obama:

The federal government of today not only “provides food for the needy”, they work hard to create more needy people who must rely on the government for their sustenance.

When the government is your only source of food , the government is your master.


22 posted on 03/26/2014 6:33:37 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The future ain't what it use to be -- Yogi Berra)
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To: BuffaloJack

I’ve known older Americans who lived poor and went through the depression of the 1930s.
When times were good they raised and canned lots of food because they knew hard times may be just around the corner.

During WWII my Sister-in-law’s husbands family had their home grown food supply confiscated by government agents because someone said they were “hoarding”. They had to live on food stored in another cellar way out in the Texas hills till the new crops came in.

Even in more affluent times they could not stand to see food wasted. As late as 1963 my aunt would save grease from foods to make soap even though store bought soap was cheap.

It appears many of today’s adults have forgotten those hard times and lessons.


23 posted on 03/26/2014 6:57:42 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Lazamataz

***Food has historically been one of the most effective weapons in a despot’s arsenal.***

TRUE! It worked to control the hostile Indians by killing all the buffalo on the plains, forcing them to become dependent on the US government.

It worked for the Chi-Coms. They forced people to work by issuing “food credits” after so much labor had been done.

Sadly America produced so much food, even in the 1930s, during depression and drought that the government bought up thousands of livestock, shot and buried them, while also dumping milk, and limiting how much grain could be grown, all to get the price UP!

As my Mother-in-law said, “in those days it was steak for breakfast, steak for lunch,, steak for supper till you got tired of it.”
Sad thing is there were no jobs for many people to earn money to buy the steak.


24 posted on 03/26/2014 7:05:34 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: MrB

“well, not everyone is going to be happy”.
______________________

Remind her of that, at an appropriate moment when she is ranting against some Constitutional limitation on governmental power.


25 posted on 03/26/2014 7:17:41 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: bert

There’s a very interesting 7:00 minute video on the kangaroo court that Romania put those two through featuring footage of the firing squad. Very interesting how the people reacted to this execution. Decent people. Nice Mothers rooting for the end of these 2 tyrants.


26 posted on 03/26/2014 7:30:33 AM PDT by albie
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To: ArtDodger

And woe to the unarmned democrat, hipsters that voted to escalate this chain of events.


27 posted on 03/26/2014 7:40:59 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Lazamataz
Food has historically been one of the most effective weapons in a despot’s arsenal.

Yep. Josef Stalin certainly used it (in the Ukraine and other areas) to an appalling degree.

28 posted on 03/26/2014 7:50:23 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: miss marmelstein
“...preppers will be no better off than people like me. You can’t hide foodstuffs from evil people determined to find it and steal it.”

Those people didn't have access to food to store from the beginning of that era. We have plenty of food in this country right now to store whatever we want. No one will know what you have if you don't tell anyone and don't have it out in the open.

If you store nothing, then you have nothing if a natural disaster happens like hurricane, storm, tornado, earthquake, ice storm, loss of power for whatever reason, loss of water if it gets contaminated for whatever reason or is turned off for some reason. It makes sense to have supplies and food/water.

29 posted on 03/26/2014 7:57:37 AM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today.))
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To: No One Special
Want to sell a packet of vegetable seed on eBay and you live in Red Hampshire?

Need a license.

Want to sell your extra plants or veggies at a home yard sale in Red Hampshire?

Need a license.

'Live Free or Die', my ass.

30 posted on 03/26/2014 8:04:05 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

RC, my guess is most of them will turn to ash in the first wave of ‘gimmie dat’s’ coming out of the cities... but you are welcome to pick off what is left...


31 posted on 03/26/2014 8:06:12 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar; BuffaloJack

“As late as 1963 my aunt would save grease from foods to make soap...”

We still do that. My wife’s ‘grandma’s lye soap’ is pure and unadulterated with all the stuff that goes into detergents that they call soap. We use it for everything, including bathing, washing hair and washing clothes in the washing machine. We do have soft water. Sometimes we might add 20 Mule Team Borax or trisodium phosphate to the homemade stuff in the washing machine.

And btw, the homemade soap will stop poison ivy in its tracks...get into some, just wash with this soap.


32 posted on 03/26/2014 8:12:14 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: Lazamataz

Food has historically been one of the most effective weapons in a despot’s arsenal.

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Let’s see. Our leftist totalitarian fascist president and his lackies at the EPA have stopped half the needed water from entering the San Joquian valley which is the vegetable basket of the US.

Dams have been taken down in the northern US and conservative communities and farmlands are inundated with spring floodwaters.

Requirements for corn ethanol as an additive to gasoline has taken millions of bushels of grains out of the food system.

I think the shooting has already begun.


33 posted on 03/26/2014 8:17:44 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: miss marmelstein
This is why you must also be prepared to kill evil people determined to find it and steal it, even if they are doing so under color of law.

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward."

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago

34 posted on 03/26/2014 8:31:47 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

***And btw, the homemade soap will stop poison ivy in its tracks***

Great stuff! I also make my own soap. I’ve got enough to last about three years!

Store bought soap just can’t compare.


35 posted on 03/26/2014 8:38:12 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: miss marmelstein

I have a copy of the movie THE GOOD EARTH. It still amazes me how the starving people swarmed the house of one family when everyone thought they had FOOD there.


36 posted on 03/26/2014 8:42:26 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Lazamataz

It’s all part of The Plan. Once fedgov has complete control of health care, food supply and energy we are nothing but slaves and serfs.


37 posted on 03/26/2014 8:48:31 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

You just described my grandmother who I lived with til I was about 12. She always had a huge garden and canned everything. I spent hours and hours shucking corn etc. getting it ready for her. Every spare scrap of material was turned into quilts. All buttons and zippers were ripped off old clothing and saved. Absolutely nothing was discarded.


38 posted on 03/26/2014 8:54:09 AM PDT by sheana
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To: No One Special

It was a different time and I can certainly understand the longing for a more perfect world.


I was reading some time ago that more people has been murdered by their own Government in the last hundred years or so than killed by an enemy.


39 posted on 03/26/2014 9:10:54 AM PDT by ravenwolf (ost void of pend)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

And those were people who were simply starving - people will do anything when they’re hungry. But, in this interesting article, it was the Romanian government - full of well-fed bureaucrats - going around taking food from citizens hoarding grain. Using sticks to prod haystacks for hidden grain. Creepy beyond belief.

I hate people!


40 posted on 03/26/2014 9:33:19 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: FreedomPoster

This is such a touching and infuriating quote from AS. I’m glad we have so many people in this country who own guns. I just hope they have the courage not to turn them in when the pressure from the government becomes too extreme.


41 posted on 03/26/2014 9:35:24 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Marcella

Did you read the article? It’s very interesting. These people had grain and the bureaucrats searched everywhere for it - including haystacks - and confiscated it. Perhaps they weren’t smart in how they hid their food; I don’t know. So very sad.


42 posted on 03/26/2014 9:38:39 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein

Ever read about the Nazi siege of Leningrad? The people were starving.
The Politbureau called in a famous composer to write a symphony to lift the spirits of the people. The composer smelled food when he walked in the door and saw all the Party Members there were well fed while the city starved.
He received the orders to write the symphony and sent on his way. They did not even offer him a bite to eat.


43 posted on 03/26/2014 9:39:15 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: miss marmelstein

One of the basic premises of Communism, from the Reds, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc., is that a starving man has no time for dissent and protest.

And it is a true adage.

To these people, starving a population is the easiest way to silence dissent. Of course, THEY will still eat well. Communism/Socialism/Liberalism/Progressiveism, etc has always been about the pure application of political power, and nothing else.


44 posted on 03/26/2014 9:40:16 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I buy sodium hydroxide 50 lbs at a time. At one time I could buy it at WalMart. Buying it in bulk saves a lot. When I open it I immediately package it into 1 lb ziplocks - it absorbs water from the air, so needs to be kept dry.


45 posted on 03/26/2014 9:40:58 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: miss marmelstein

“Perhaps they weren’t smart in how they hid their food; I don’t know.”

In a sea of starving people, a well-fed person stands out like a sore thumb.


46 posted on 03/26/2014 9:44:51 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: No One Special

This illustrates the reason for having a Second Amendment.

“Arms” can be used to kill animals ... but this is not why we must protect the right to keep and bear them.

“Arms” can be used to deter or defeat criminals ... but this is not why we must protect the right to keep and bear them.

Arms can be used to deter or defeat TYRANTS ... The Second Amendment is our Tyranny Insurance Policy.


47 posted on 03/26/2014 9:45:55 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: bert
Sic Semper Tyrannis:


48 posted on 03/26/2014 9:47:37 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: BuffaloJack

You’re a good man.
I have an 88 yo neighbor who grew up in Appalachia. What she describes about surviving in early twentieth century is remarkable. She said she thought everyone lived like that. Today, she does all her housework and cooking. She loves her washing machine which she has had one only ten yrs; she washes three loads most days! She is so thankful for what she has and considers her life a blessing from God.


49 posted on 03/26/2014 9:58:47 AM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

No, I’m afraid I’m pretty ignorant about the siege. Sad, sad story. I hate Russian communists - along, of course, with all the rest of the worldwide communists. It’s why I could never get on board with folks here who thought Putin was OK because he pushed around the man-child in the WH...


50 posted on 03/26/2014 10:03:02 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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