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The Supreme Court 'Sounds Ready' To Throw Out A Controversial Part Of Obamacare
Yahoo/Business Insider ^ | 3-26-14 | Brett LoGiurato

Posted on 03/26/2014 1:26:23 AM PDT by kingattax

The Supreme Court sounded "ready" to throw out the part of the Affordable Care Act that requires certain religious corporations to offer employees contraceptive coverage, according to a report in The Los Angeles Times.

The court's conservative justices were sharply critical of the provision in the law. The women justices, meanwhile — liberals Elena Kagan , Sonia Sotomayor, and Ruth Bader Ginsburg — defended the law, according to the Times.

Justice Anthony Kennedy, a swing voter with a libertarian bent, told U.S. Solicitor General Donald Verrilli, who defended the mandate, that his reasoning " would permit requiring profit-making corporations to pay for abortions."

The rule at stake under the health-care overhaul is a provision in the ACA that requires all new health insurance plans to pay for contraceptives. The issue is whether for-profit corporations — in this case, the lead plaintiff Hobby Lobby Inc. — can refuse to provide all or some contraceptive services.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; obamacare; scotus; zerocare
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calling this monstrosity a "law" is like calling sheila jackson lee a genius.
1 posted on 03/26/2014 1:26:23 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

That’s where we are today. We will see what really happens after the decision. Don’t be shocked if we find out Judge Roberts is trying to gum up the works once again. I do expect him to try. Obama obviously ‘has something’ on Roberts. Like before, we will never know why he screwed up the Amercian people’s legal system.


2 posted on 03/26/2014 1:31:23 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: kingattax

Common sense says the court should throw it out. But common sense said the court should not have allowed HusseinCare to ever become law in the first place. I’ll believe it when I see it.


3 posted on 03/26/2014 1:39:47 AM PDT by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: kingattax

I don’t think they can throw out part that act. I believe it was explicitly made not severable.


4 posted on 03/26/2014 1:48:39 AM PDT by JLS
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To: kingattax
Time to roll out the homosexual pictures of Judas Roberts again, and have the NSA send transcripts to his home of text messages he sent, with a note saying, "We wouldn't want these to be released, would we?"
5 posted on 03/26/2014 1:54:34 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: lee martell

Why are you defending that man? He is very intelligent. He’s not being blackmailed, he’s just evil.


6 posted on 03/26/2014 1:56:57 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: kingattax

She is a genius compared to the constituents that voted her in.


7 posted on 03/26/2014 2:08:56 AM PDT by maddog55 (I'd be Pro-Choice if we could abort liberals.)
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To: kingattax

That they throw out one this at all should instantly Zot the law.

There being no severalbity clause.


8 posted on 03/26/2014 2:15:27 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: kingattax

Political theatre. We have no idea what the 9 political hacks in black muumuus are going to do. Although it’s a pretty fair bet that whatever they do will be contrary to the Constitution, common sense, fair play, and the economic interests of the middle class.


9 posted on 03/26/2014 2:20:56 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Guns SAVE Lives! www.VCDL.org)
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To: kingattax

Sheila Jackson Lee has been a powerful voice of the people for over 250 years. Don’t try to marginalize this former slave who fought the elements to sail into the unknown and discover Atlanta Georgia in 1482. That’s 10 years before Columbus discovered Ohio. You owe this brilliant woman an apology.


10 posted on 03/26/2014 2:25:29 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Stop wishing for a perfect world. You may get it. Who will you talk to then?)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

can you get me a T-shirt with her picture on it ?


11 posted on 03/26/2014 2:32:30 AM PDT by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
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To: kingattax

Her likeness frightens children, puppies, and kittens.


12 posted on 03/26/2014 2:39:40 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Stop wishing for a perfect world. You may get it. Who will you talk to then?)
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To: kingattax

Those three would approve a law castrating all males.....


13 posted on 03/26/2014 2:40:23 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: kingattax

Roberts will change his mind after getting another call from Jarrett.


14 posted on 03/26/2014 2:43:46 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

i heard about a guy that put her pics around his house and hasn’t seen a bug since.


15 posted on 03/26/2014 2:44:56 AM PDT by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
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To: kingattax

I put one in my garden. It scared all the critters away. But now nothing will grow there. Not even kudzu.


16 posted on 03/26/2014 2:47:19 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Stop wishing for a perfect world. You may get it. Who will you talk to then?)
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To: JLS
I don’t think they can throw out part that act. I believe it was explicitly made not severable.

That's what I recall as well.

17 posted on 03/26/2014 2:54:20 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Not even kudzu.

Impossible !

18 posted on 03/26/2014 3:09:17 AM PDT by Principled
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To: kingattax
The rule at stake under the health-care overhaul is a provision in the ACA that requires all new health insurance plans to pay for contraceptives.

Hard to take their reporting seriously when they don't even understand the plaintiffs case. The case is not about contraceptives. The case is about abortifacient drugs at a micro level. It is about freedom at a macro level.

Predicting what these robe wearing swamis are going to do is about as productive as trying to pour hot butter up a bobcat's ass.

19 posted on 03/26/2014 3:16:52 AM PDT by IamConservative (Damn that groundhog!)
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To: JLS
The (female only) contraceptive mandate isn't law, it's a rule promulgated by an executive department, the Department of Health and Human Services.

Many lawsuits, the courts are all over the map on this. HHS Mandate Information Central - The Becket Fund FOR RELIGIOUS LIBERTY

20 posted on 03/26/2014 3:20:12 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: kingattax

So if they throw out another “controversial part” of Obamacare, will the lack of severability be invoked THIS time?


21 posted on 03/26/2014 3:31:37 AM PDT by Big Giant Head
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Being a 10th generation Vuginyan, I cringe every time I hear/read “that” woman’s name. She should be forced to change it to Moron.


22 posted on 03/26/2014 3:36:17 AM PDT by Huaynero
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Her nibs was stopped at a local rail crossing awhile back. As the train passed, it abruptly went hard right and created a dirt road. Maybe some of her hair treatment greased the rails...


23 posted on 03/26/2014 3:41:34 AM PDT by Huaynero
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To: kingattax

And if they do throw out a portion, what about Congress’ intentional omission of a severance clause?


24 posted on 03/26/2014 3:44:26 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Border Fence Obamacare!)
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To: Vendome
There being no severalbity clause.

You understand the severability clause. I understand the severability clause. The geniuses who wrote the law (most of whom are attorneys) apparently don't, and the nine black robed dictators for life apparently don't either.

25 posted on 03/26/2014 3:56:20 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (The question of our age is whether a majority of Americans can and will vote us all into slavery.)
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To: kingattax

What “law”. No one, not even SF Nan, knows what law, much less what is in it. Elmer Fudd is ruling by executive decree. Civil disobedience, like the patriots in CT are doing, is needed.

Paying the fine/tax is supporting abortions. Keep your bank balances low enough that the IRS/Gestapo can’t steal your money. Make them garnish your wages; there is no way they can administer millions of wage garnishments. Tie them up in courts with millions of challenges to the garnishments.


26 posted on 03/26/2014 4:10:19 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Principled

I now sell kudzu killer. Empty spray bottle with Sheila’s picture on it. Kills fire ants too.


27 posted on 03/26/2014 4:14:59 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Stop wishing for a perfect world. You may get it. Who will you talk to then?)
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To: Huaynero

True. Look in Webster’s and her picture is next to the word Moron.


28 posted on 03/26/2014 4:16:51 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Stop wishing for a perfect world. You may get it. Who will you talk to then?)
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To: Huaynero

A buzzard flying over her got sick, threw up, died mid flight, and fell to the ground as a skeleton.


29 posted on 03/26/2014 4:19:31 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Stop wishing for a perfect world. You may get it. Who will you talk to then?)
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To: lee martell; F15Eagle; metmom

Obama, being the worst President in history, has appointed the worst Supreme Court justices in American history.

These women are not only incapable of rational thought and proper judicial temperament, they are both immoral to the core.

Insecurity and venom pour from their veins.

They are the epitome of what the apostle Paul wrote in 2 Timothy, Chapter 3: 1-5

"But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people."

30 posted on 03/26/2014 5:21:17 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: JLS

The HHS mandate is just an executive branch regulation. The SCOTUS can easily invalidate it without invalidating commiecare per se.


31 posted on 03/26/2014 5:26:10 AM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: savedbygrace; JLS

Yall’re talking as if laws matter.


32 posted on 03/26/2014 5:29:33 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: South40

Can we count on Judge Roberts to find a way to make it all work? Who knows, he might find an never-before observed loophole in the first amendment, or based on his own Obamacare precedent, he could just rewrite the first amendment, problem solved!


33 posted on 03/26/2014 5:35:29 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: SkyPilot

#30

Causes EXTREME anxiety to see pictures of what has been appointed to the highest court of the land....Makes the heart sink in unbelief......I honestly do not see an out for the once great American Republic...So infiltrated at every level of power with anti-American morally bankrupt liberals....Their not even liberals, I don’t know what to call them....Way past being just a liberal...


34 posted on 03/26/2014 5:47:43 AM PDT by selfdefense
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To: nickcarraway; lee martell; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; kingattax; GOPsterinMA; ...
Why are you defending that man? He is very intelligent. He’s not being blackmailed,

I agree.

It's far far more likely that Roberts just wasn't as pristine a conservative as we thought he was, like so many before him. For some ungodly reason he wanted to talk himself into upholding this piece of crap, and he did. I see him as thinking himself too clever, caught up in typical judicial arrogance.

35 posted on 03/26/2014 5:50:52 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: kingattax

-——the lead plaintiff Hobby Lobby Inc——

Omitted is a second plaintiff, the sisters of Mercy I think.

They are a church related Non Profit. The law imposes a burden on the religious rights of both a secular and a pure church corporate entity. That distinction makes the judgement more sticky.

I can believe that the court will rule in favor of the sisters corporation and let congress sort out requiring hobby lobby to provide the coverage.


36 posted on 03/26/2014 5:51:08 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: nickcarraway
He could be all three, but it's not hard to suspect blackmail of some sort.

His deciding opinion on obamacare, as well as his demeanor that day, looked more like last minute, changed his answer scribbling than the thoughtful deliberation he probably had written originally.

37 posted on 03/26/2014 5:56:15 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: kingattax

How can even ObamaCare be the law. It has morphed and changed so much by decrees and edicts that it no longer resembles the supposed law that was passed. It is illegal it is not a law it is a travesty.


38 posted on 03/26/2014 5:56:46 AM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: kingattax
refuse to provide all or some contraceptive services

I wonder if ANY of the protesters I've seen on TV or read about have ANY idea that Hobby Lobby isn't trying to avoid ALL contraceptive services - only IUD and morning after pills. And how many journalists know the specifics but want to stir up anger? And how many just suck at reporting?

This is about precedent and if Hobby Lobby wins, other corporations may be able to take it further based on the ruling (if any want to, which I haven't seen evidence of). But the media accusations against Hobby Lobby seem close to libel - they are intentionally misinforming, and causing financial harm (I'm sure many have stopped shopping there).
39 posted on 03/26/2014 6:05:40 AM PDT by LostPassword
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To: kingattax

Nah ... I just don’t believe the “positive” hype anymore. After Roberts’ decision on Obamacare being a “tax” ... nothing from the black robed ones will surprise me. I’m not going to get all “happy” that they might side with religion. I seriously doubt it will happen.


40 posted on 03/26/2014 6:16:49 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: kingattax
The USSC isn't going to do anything about the "free birth control" provisions of Obamacare. Roberts will see to it that it's "clarified" that Hobby Lobby and other companies can pay the penalty tax instead of providing their employees insurance at all, and call it a day.

That's where the Obama Administration gets what it wants: A big company to point at and say "See! It's all those greedy wealthy businessmen that are taking away your insurance, it's not me!"

Then all Hobby Lobby's employees will get enrolled in Obamacare at highly inflated prices for little to no coverage. Obama and the Democrats will claim victory over "big business" and have their issue for the 2014 elections.

Republicans will of course then wet their pants, cower like sissies and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in the 2014 mid-terms.

Mark this post. It's true. You can already see it coming.

Remember the last time the USSC "signaled" their disapproval of something? We all thought Obamacare was dead in the water based on their "signals" ... then what happened? It got re-written as a tax with penalties and was upheld as Constitutional.

I'm telling ya, trained apes or monkeys could do a better job than this USSC.

41 posted on 03/26/2014 6:17:41 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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Why are you defending that man? He’s not being blackmailed, he’s just evil.

Exactly!

42 posted on 03/26/2014 7:17:20 AM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
After Roberts’ decision on Obamacare being a “tax”

Despite the years of political speeches by democrats "it's not a tax, it's a penalty".

43 posted on 03/26/2014 7:18:41 AM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: kingattax; Lurking Libertarian; Perdogg; JDW11235; Clairity; Spacetrucker; Art in Idaho; GregNH; ...

FReepmail me to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the SCOTUS ping list.

44 posted on 03/26/2014 7:50:40 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: kingattax

Like they sounded to get rid of the mandate? I will believe it when I see it happening.


45 posted on 03/26/2014 8:00:38 AM PDT by sport
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I find that my nervousness about just about anything that comes before SCOTUS is being assuaged. As I posted earlier, the subject matter for amendments proposed by the Convention of States is very hopeful in neutralizing (nullifying?) some of the arbitrary, dictatorial, oligarchy feel of SCOTUS.

As their website states,

"A Convention of States can propose amendments if 2/3 of states submit applications for such a convention. These applications must all deal with the same issue (i.e., limiting the power and jurisdiction of the federal government)"

...Article V gives states the power to call a convention for the purpose of proposing amendments to the Constitution. By calling a convention of the states, we can stop the federal spending and debt spree, the power grabs of the federal courts, and other misuses of federal power. The current situation is precisely what the Founders feared, and they gave us a solution we have a duty to use. After the states propose, debate, and vote upon the proposed amendments, they will be sent to the 50 state legislatures for ratification. Three-quarters of the states must agree for any of the proposed amendments to be ratified. Congress has no authority to stop such a process."

God bless America and may we succeed in this.

46 posted on 03/26/2014 8:21:23 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: RKBA Democrat

I object: not all the judges on the supreme court are political hacks.


47 posted on 03/26/2014 10:02:25 AM PDT by mbj (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: South40

I have a bad feeling about Roberts. Someone got to him on obamacare, I’m sure the same ordeal still applies. He has to remain loyal to obamacare.


48 posted on 03/26/2014 10:11:21 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: lee martell

I just posted the SAME THING! (before I read this comment)

Whew! Good to know someone else sees it. I was thinking my theory might be a little crazy and too far out there.

Unless YOU’RE crazy, then well... I’m back to square one. :)


49 posted on 03/26/2014 10:15:29 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: DrewsMum

Some thought Paul Revere was ‘crazy’ warning of the British.
Others later thought Senator Joe McCarthy was ‘crazy’ warning of the Communists. Appearances can be deceiving.


50 posted on 03/26/2014 10:23:26 AM PDT by lee martell
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