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Study: Seattle Worker Needs Minimum Wage Of $21.60/Hour To Afford Two-Bedroom Rental
KPLU ^ | 3/24/14 | Ashley Gross

Posted on 03/26/2014 2:29:14 AM PDT by Libloather

Even hiking the minimum wage to $15 an hour may not be enough to allow low-wage workers to afford rent in Seattle, according to a new study by the National Low Income Housing Coalition.

The group says a full-time worker in the Seattle-Bellevue metro area needs to earn $21.60 an hour to afford a two-bedroom apartment. That’s the so-called housing wage that the group calculates. In Washington state, the housing wage is $18.65 per hour.

The group estimated that the worker spends no more than 30 percent of his or her income on rent and utilities. For the price of a two-bedroom apartment in Seattle, the group used $1,123 per month, the fair-market rent estimated by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.

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KEYWORDS: demagogicparty; minimum; rental; sawant; seattle; wage; washington
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Seattle Mayor Ed Murray has established an advisory committee to examine the idea of raising the city's minimum wage to $15 an hour. Activists, including City Council member Kshama Sawant, have said they plan to collect signatures for a ballot proposition if the city fails to act.

With gas prices soaring, the socialist might as well make it $50 an hour.

1 posted on 03/26/2014 2:29:14 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

You raise the hourly wage and the first thing landlords will do is raise the rent.


2 posted on 03/26/2014 2:30:44 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Libloather

Why would a single, full-time worker need a two bedroom apartment in the first place?


3 posted on 03/26/2014 2:53:38 AM PDT by teacherwoes (Alethephobia-fear of hearing the truth)
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To: Libloather

One Meeeeelion Dollars


4 posted on 03/26/2014 3:08:50 AM PDT by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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To: Libloather

Three Seattle workers can rent even easier. Put one in the living room.


5 posted on 03/26/2014 3:15:38 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Libloather

Well heck, just make all landlords lower the rent. Problem solved!
(Since they are using pink unicorn economics anyway....)


6 posted on 03/26/2014 3:15:49 AM PDT by AndrewB (FUBO)
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To: Libloather

Is that with section 8?


7 posted on 03/26/2014 3:18:12 AM PDT by struggle
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To: struggle

Good point; probably an unintended consequence of cheaper rentals being subsidized. So let’s start more all compassionate government action to distort the market. No wonder people are forced into dependence.


8 posted on 03/26/2014 3:23:30 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Gaffer

“You raise the hourly wage and the first thing landlords will do is raise the rent.”

And behind curtain “B” we have rent control!

Remember, the solution to market distortions caused by government intervention is always more government intervention.


9 posted on 03/26/2014 3:26:49 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: Libloather
I thought the idea was to live in your mom's basement until you acquired some skills, were given responsibility, received a few raises, and could afford a place of your own.
10 posted on 03/26/2014 3:30:21 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Sooth2222

Guess the best thing for him to do would be to move to something he CAN afford, millions of other people have to do that, why not him?


11 posted on 03/26/2014 3:35:05 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Libloather

Logic buys no votes...


12 posted on 03/26/2014 3:43:15 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: Sooth2222
I thought the idea was to live in your mom's basement until you acquired some skills, were given responsibility, received a few raises, and could afford a place of your own.

That's what I did, and I think most people here. You move out when you have a job which pays enough to get your own place, or you find somebody willing to share a place with you.

13 posted on 03/26/2014 3:49:41 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Gaffer

You raise the hourly wage and the first thing landlords will do is raise the rent.


Yep! And then they’ll impose Rent-Control, then Food Price-control and .... then and then, etc.

It’s like they want to become New York City-West.

Such a lovely place back in the Mid-70’s. It really is a shame that the Leftist’s are so attracted to beauty and beautiful places and then they just can’t help themselves; they have to ugly-fie them to match what’ festering inside of them.


14 posted on 03/26/2014 3:50:41 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: teacherwoes

It is not an issue of need. Is it any one’s business why anyone needs the things that others do?


15 posted on 03/26/2014 3:50:45 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: All

ha.. good luck with all that..


16 posted on 03/26/2014 3:52:16 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Libloather

Kshama Sawant is a member of the Socialist Alternative party, the United States section of the British-based Trotskyist international organization the Committee for a Workers’ International (CWI). She has referred to herself as a Marxist.[26][38] Sawant has stated that she does not advocate for any system like the “bureaucratic dictatorship” of the former Soviet Union, but for democratic socialism meaning “the society being run democratically in the interest of all working people on the planet, all children - everybody who has needs, and all that being done in an environmentally sustainable manner.”[39]
Involvement with Occupy[edit]
Before running for office, Sawant received attention as an organizer in the local Occupy movement.[1][21] She praised Occupy for putting “class”, “capitalism”, and “socialism” into the political debate.[26] After Occupy Seattle protestors were removed from Westlake Park by order Seattle Mayor Mike McGinn, Sawant helped bring them to the Capitol Hill campus of Seattle Central Community College, where they remained for two months.[12] Sawant has joined with other Occupy activists working with local organization to resist home evictions and foreclosures. She was arrested with several other Occupy activists including Dorli Rainey on July 31, 2012 for blocking King County Sheriff’s Deputies from evicting a man from his home.[40]
Economic policies[edit]
Sawant called for large Seattle companies such as Starbucks and Amazon to be unionized in her most recent campaign.[28] In previous campaigns she has advocated the nationalization of large Washington State corporations such as Boeing, Microsoft, and Amazon.com[29] and expressed a desire to see privately owned housing in “Millonaire’s Row” in the Capitol Hill neighborhood turned into publically owned shared housing saying, “When things are exquisitely beautiful and rare, they shouldn’t be privately owned.”[41] During an election victory rally for her City Council campaign Sawant criticized Boeing for saying it would move jobs out of state if it couldn’t get wage concessions and tax breaks. She called this “economic terrorism” and said in several speeches if Boeing moved jobs out of state that the workers should take over Boeing facilities and bring them into public ownership. She has said they could be converted into multiple uses, such as production for mass transit.[42][43] She is also a supporter of single-payer health care.[28] Sawant maintains that a socialist economy cannot exist in a single country and must be a global system just as capitalism today is a global system.[44]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kshama_Sawant


17 posted on 03/26/2014 4:05:03 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Gaffer

She also wants rent control.


18 posted on 03/26/2014 4:05:32 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: The Working Man; Junk Silver

Yes, that’s likely, and with that comes the landlord’s option of neglecting the property, no maintenance, etc. and then the government cracks down on inspections, etc. and rental property is sold over to condos or something leaving no affordable housing, and the vicious cycle continues.

Nothing government does is good in my opinion.


19 posted on 03/26/2014 4:13:14 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: The Working Man
It really is a shame that the Leftist’s are so attracted to beauty and beautiful places and then they just can’t help themselves; they have to ugly-fie them to match what’ festering inside of them.

Lovely way of putting it. That has happened to huge areas of my beloved home state, California. Basic infrastructure is falling apart because liberals couldn't keep themselves from trying to impose "social justice."

20 posted on 03/26/2014 4:19:31 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Libloather

Yes, because too many people want to live in too little space. If you want to live in Seattle, you dang well better have a competitive income - and that’s not anyone else’s responsibility. Can’t afford it? Move.


21 posted on 03/26/2014 4:20:22 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: Libloather

so does that mean two workers sharing an apartment need

$10.80 an hour?


22 posted on 03/26/2014 4:21:54 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Progov
"Guess the best thing for him to do would be to move to something he CAN afford, millions of other people have to do that, why not him?"

Or improve his skill set so he could get a better job. As I get older I have noticed that most people that are poor stay that way because they continue doing what poor people do. Most rich people stay rich because they continue to do what rich people do.

23 posted on 03/26/2014 4:35:45 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Libloather

Raise it, and all prices go up, so they will need to raise it again, and prices will go up again, etc.

Liberals always demand a strengthening of their failed laws, which leads to more failure, leading them to demand a strengthening of their laws .....


24 posted on 03/26/2014 4:41:35 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Gaffer

Remember, it is Seattle........ Land lords /rent is trifling compared to barrista’s and $12 a cup coffee

Then to top it all, by raising the minimum wage, the poor are buoyed up into an income level where they lose their Obamacare subsidy.

They ‘re doomed....... no solution


25 posted on 03/26/2014 4:47:07 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Libloather

ACORN Economics 101. It’s the law of demand and demand.


26 posted on 03/26/2014 4:47:34 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Libloather

Yet another lovely example that the problem isn’t wages, but production and inflation of the money supply...and will be ignored by the idiotic masses.


27 posted on 03/26/2014 4:47:36 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: teacherwoes

You’re not supposed to think on it when someone declares a need, remember?


28 posted on 03/26/2014 4:48:07 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Libloather

Please please please make this happen. Seattle needs to implement this new minimum wage immediately. The only question remaining is whether those newly unemployed because of this new wage floor will be able to collect unemployment benefits based upon the new wage or their old one.


29 posted on 03/26/2014 4:52:09 AM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Libloather

So, if he gets two roommates, he only needs $7.20 an hour. By my calcs, he’s got spending money left over!


30 posted on 03/26/2014 5:04:56 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I miss you, dad.)
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To: bert

Lord forbid that they lose that $6000 yearly EITC check.


31 posted on 03/26/2014 5:25:29 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Libloather

Deal!

At 50$/Hr. I could retire and learn whether the Mayor and his liberal friends are capable of pulling the wagon!


32 posted on 03/26/2014 5:27:37 AM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

IOW, setting a minimum wage at the federal level doesn’t making any intercoursing sense. If Washington state thinks that everyone should be paid over $21 an hour as a state minimum wage just because the cost of living in Seattle is so high, let them just STFU and pass it.

End federal minimum wage laws NOW.

Thanks Libloather.


33 posted on 03/26/2014 5:32:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: AndrewB

/bingo


34 posted on 03/26/2014 5:35:26 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Gaffer

And one day, the government, after pretending they’ve done nothing for god knows how long, declares housing a right and takes steps to federalize it so as to provide it to everyone...and thus gaining more control over one’s private life. Who’s going to question big brother if he can kick you out of your home and prevent you from getting another?


35 posted on 03/26/2014 5:36:30 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: teacherwoes

It’s that gun someone has to their head that forces them to live there. The gun also forces them to not go through the steps of finding a house to buy.


36 posted on 03/26/2014 5:36:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: RWB Patriot

Yep....it’s always the same story. Some socialist liberal comes along and says all this stuff should be free to the people blah blah blah....it all goes downhill from there. Initiative, hard work, innovation and self-dependency all go out the window. It ALWAYS fails.


37 posted on 03/26/2014 5:41:00 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Gaffer
It ALWAYS fails.

Because it's never enough.

38 posted on 03/26/2014 5:53:31 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: Libloather

When the big employers flee the city rents will go down.


39 posted on 03/26/2014 5:59:56 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Libloather

This is a consequence of zoning and land use. Seattle has done very little in improving transportation, besides wasteful goobermint trains, and has extreme land use restrictions. Naturally housing is expensive.


40 posted on 03/26/2014 6:05:23 AM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: Libloather

Sounds like he needs to move to a less “hip” city where he can afford to live on his skill set.


41 posted on 03/26/2014 6:06:31 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Gaffer

Don’t agree. If the city raises the minimum wage the FIRST THING that will happen is a huge spike is “workers” no longer having any wage at all.
The politicians may be able to pass a law dictating (as dictators do) that employers MUST pay certain wages.
However, the political class has absolutely no power to dictate that anyone be an employer at all. Watch the parade of businesses leaving town and observe the darkened offices.


42 posted on 03/26/2014 6:38:43 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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To: CaptainAmiigaf

That’s a given, but I’m thinking they don’t have the power to make a small business pay any kind of a set wage at all, really. They do have the power to require set wages for city employees, city contractors and their employees, etc. but to an independent business? No, not as long as they fall within Federal requirements if they are applicable.


43 posted on 03/26/2014 6:56:18 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: teacherwoes

Totally agree. Once upon a time there were boarding homes where workers rented a room. In college I splurged and lived in 4 person apartments, 2 to a room (the really cheap apartments had 6 to an apartment). Let’s see - if 4 share a 2 bedroom apartment, minimum wage of $5.40. Problem solved - and we can lower the minimum wage!


44 posted on 03/26/2014 7:08:54 AM PDT by LibertyOh
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To: Gaffer

“In San Francisco, a minimum wage worker would need to earn $37.62 an hour to afford a two-bedroom apartment.”
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That quote says a lot. In ‘62 and ‘63 I was on Treasure Island in San Francisco Bay attending a Navy electronics school, two of my classmates who were E-3 which meant they were paid something like $106. a month each RENTED AN APARTMENT IN SAN FRANCISCO and lived off base on their off duty days so they would have a place to party with the girls they picked up in the bars in town. This is not fantasy, this actually happened. That is how much things have changed in fifty one or fifty two years. According to this quote a person would have to earn their nominal monthly salary for both sailors in less than six hours to rent a two bedroom apartment. Ain’t progress grand?


45 posted on 03/26/2014 8:06:17 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: Libloather

If the minimum wage for any toothless moron is over $20 an hour, what will skilled employees demand?


46 posted on 03/26/2014 8:07:18 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Junk Silver
Then behind curtain "C"....


47 posted on 03/26/2014 8:08:10 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Libloather

The are beyond stupid with this minimum wage crap. Clearly all prices will rise of minimum wages are increased, pushing up rents for those still employed. The losers will have to go on welfare — so they’ll have to raise welfare payments too or the poor unemployed will have to move out of Seattle.


48 posted on 03/26/2014 8:10:20 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: dfwgator

Study: Seattle Worker Needs Minimum Wage Of $21.60/Hour To Afford Two-Bedroom Rental

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In other words two people need a minimum wage of $10.80 to afford a two bedroom rental.

Minimum wage was never expected to be a sustaining wage to support one two or three people. It is an entry level wage.


49 posted on 03/26/2014 8:12:19 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

“Sawant has stated that she does not advocate for any system like the “bureaucratic dictatorship” of the former Soviet Union, but for democratic socialism meaning “the society being run democratically in the interest of all working people on the planet, all children - everybody who has needs, and all that being done in an environmentally sustainable manner.”
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I consider this a great illustration of why those who understand reality should cease using the word “democracy” to refer to this country. This is not supposed to be a democracy, not even a “representative democracy”, this is supposed to be a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, dang it! We play into the hands of the destroyers when we call it a democracy. Do not listen to those who claim that a republic is only a form of democracy. The Biltmore house is not just a form of a shack.


50 posted on 03/26/2014 8:37:44 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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