Skip to comments.Study: Seattle Worker Needs Minimum Wage Of $21.60/Hour To Afford Two-Bedroom Rental
Posted on 03/26/2014 2:29:14 AM PDT by Libloather
Even hiking the minimum wage to $15 an hour may not be enough to allow low-wage workers to afford rent in Seattle, according to a new study by the National Low Income Housing Coalition.
The group says a full-time worker in the Seattle-Bellevue metro area needs to earn $21.60 an hour to afford a two-bedroom apartment. Thats the so-called housing wage that the group calculates. In Washington state, the housing wage is $18.65 per hour.
The group estimated that the worker spends no more than 30 percent of his or her income on rent and utilities. For the price of a two-bedroom apartment in Seattle, the group used $1,123 per month, the fair-market rent estimated by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.
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With gas prices soaring, the socialist might as well make it $50 an hour.
You raise the hourly wage and the first thing landlords will do is raise the rent.
Why would a single, full-time worker need a two bedroom apartment in the first place?
One Meeeeelion Dollars
Three Seattle workers can rent even easier. Put one in the living room.
Well heck, just make all landlords lower the rent. Problem solved!
(Since they are using pink unicorn economics anyway....)
Is that with section 8?
Good point; probably an unintended consequence of cheaper rentals being subsidized. So let’s start more all compassionate government action to distort the market. No wonder people are forced into dependence.
“You raise the hourly wage and the first thing landlords will do is raise the rent.”
And behind curtain “B” we have rent control!
Remember, the solution to market distortions caused by government intervention is always more government intervention.
Guess the best thing for him to do would be to move to something he CAN afford, millions of other people have to do that, why not him?
Logic buys no votes...
That's what I did, and I think most people here. You move out when you have a job which pays enough to get your own place, or you find somebody willing to share a place with you.
You raise the hourly wage and the first thing landlords will do is raise the rent.
Yep! And then they’ll impose Rent-Control, then Food Price-control and .... then and then, etc.
It’s like they want to become New York City-West.
Such a lovely place back in the Mid-70’s. It really is a shame that the Leftist’s are so attracted to beauty and beautiful places and then they just can’t help themselves; they have to ugly-fie them to match what’ festering inside of them.
It is not an issue of need. Is it any one’s business why anyone needs the things that others do?
ha.. good luck with all that..
Kshama Sawant is a member of the Socialist Alternative party, the United States section of the British-based Trotskyist international organization the Committee for a Workers’ International (CWI). She has referred to herself as a Marxist. Sawant has stated that she does not advocate for any system like the “bureaucratic dictatorship” of the former Soviet Union, but for democratic socialism meaning “the society being run democratically in the interest of all working people on the planet, all children - everybody who has needs, and all that being done in an environmentally sustainable manner.”
Involvement with Occupy
Before running for office, Sawant received attention as an organizer in the local Occupy movement. She praised Occupy for putting “class”, “capitalism”, and “socialism” into the political debate. After Occupy Seattle protestors were removed from Westlake Park by order Seattle Mayor Mike McGinn, Sawant helped bring them to the Capitol Hill campus of Seattle Central Community College, where they remained for two months. Sawant has joined with other Occupy activists working with local organization to resist home evictions and foreclosures. She was arrested with several other Occupy activists including Dorli Rainey on July 31, 2012 for blocking King County Sheriff’s Deputies from evicting a man from his home.
Sawant called for large Seattle companies such as Starbucks and Amazon to be unionized in her most recent campaign. In previous campaigns she has advocated the nationalization of large Washington State corporations such as Boeing, Microsoft, and Amazon.com and expressed a desire to see privately owned housing in “Millonaire’s Row” in the Capitol Hill neighborhood turned into publically owned shared housing saying, “When things are exquisitely beautiful and rare, they shouldn’t be privately owned.” During an election victory rally for her City Council campaign Sawant criticized Boeing for saying it would move jobs out of state if it couldn’t get wage concessions and tax breaks. She called this “economic terrorism” and said in several speeches if Boeing moved jobs out of state that the workers should take over Boeing facilities and bring them into public ownership. She has said they could be converted into multiple uses, such as production for mass transit. She is also a supporter of single-payer health care. Sawant maintains that a socialist economy cannot exist in a single country and must be a global system just as capitalism today is a global system.
She also wants rent control.
Yes, that’s likely, and with that comes the landlord’s option of neglecting the property, no maintenance, etc. and then the government cracks down on inspections, etc. and rental property is sold over to condos or something leaving no affordable housing, and the vicious cycle continues.
Nothing government does is good in my opinion.
Lovely way of putting it. That has happened to huge areas of my beloved home state, California. Basic infrastructure is falling apart because liberals couldn't keep themselves from trying to impose "social justice."
Yes, because too many people want to live in too little space. If you want to live in Seattle, you dang well better have a competitive income - and that’s not anyone else’s responsibility. Can’t afford it? Move.
so does that mean two workers sharing an apartment need
$10.80 an hour?
Or improve his skill set so he could get a better job. As I get older I have noticed that most people that are poor stay that way because they continue doing what poor people do. Most rich people stay rich because they continue to do what rich people do.
Raise it, and all prices go up, so they will need to raise it again, and prices will go up again, etc.
Liberals always demand a strengthening of their failed laws, which leads to more failure, leading them to demand a strengthening of their laws .....
Remember, it is Seattle........ Land lords /rent is trifling compared to barrista’s and $12 a cup coffee
Then to top it all, by raising the minimum wage, the poor are buoyed up into an income level where they lose their Obamacare subsidy.
They ‘re doomed....... no solution
ACORN Economics 101. It’s the law of demand and demand.
Yet another lovely example that the problem isn’t wages, but production and inflation of the money supply...and will be ignored by the idiotic masses.
You’re not supposed to think on it when someone declares a need, remember?
Please please please make this happen. Seattle needs to implement this new minimum wage immediately. The only question remaining is whether those newly unemployed because of this new wage floor will be able to collect unemployment benefits based upon the new wage or their old one.
So, if he gets two roommates, he only needs $7.20 an hour. By my calcs, he’s got spending money left over!
Lord forbid that they lose that $6000 yearly EITC check.
At 50$/Hr. I could retire and learn whether the Mayor and his liberal friends are capable of pulling the wagon!
IOW, setting a minimum wage at the federal level doesn’t making any intercoursing sense. If Washington state thinks that everyone should be paid over $21 an hour as a state minimum wage just because the cost of living in Seattle is so high, let them just STFU and pass it.
End federal minimum wage laws NOW.
And one day, the government, after pretending they’ve done nothing for god knows how long, declares housing a right and takes steps to federalize it so as to provide it to everyone...and thus gaining more control over one’s private life. Who’s going to question big brother if he can kick you out of your home and prevent you from getting another?
It’s that gun someone has to their head that forces them to live there. The gun also forces them to not go through the steps of finding a house to buy.
Yep....it’s always the same story. Some socialist liberal comes along and says all this stuff should be free to the people blah blah blah....it all goes downhill from there. Initiative, hard work, innovation and self-dependency all go out the window. It ALWAYS fails.
Because it's never enough.
When the big employers flee the city rents will go down.
This is a consequence of zoning and land use. Seattle has done very little in improving transportation, besides wasteful goobermint trains, and has extreme land use restrictions. Naturally housing is expensive.
Sounds like he needs to move to a less “hip” city where he can afford to live on his skill set.
Don’t agree. If the city raises the minimum wage the FIRST THING that will happen is a huge spike is “workers” no longer having any wage at all.
The politicians may be able to pass a law dictating (as dictators do) that employers MUST pay certain wages.
However, the political class has absolutely no power to dictate that anyone be an employer at all. Watch the parade of businesses leaving town and observe the darkened offices.
That’s a given, but I’m thinking they don’t have the power to make a small business pay any kind of a set wage at all, really. They do have the power to require set wages for city employees, city contractors and their employees, etc. but to an independent business? No, not as long as they fall within Federal requirements if they are applicable.
Totally agree. Once upon a time there were boarding homes where workers rented a room. In college I splurged and lived in 4 person apartments, 2 to a room (the really cheap apartments had 6 to an apartment). Let’s see - if 4 share a 2 bedroom apartment, minimum wage of $5.40. Problem solved - and we can lower the minimum wage!
“In San Francisco, a minimum wage worker would need to earn $37.62 an hour to afford a two-bedroom apartment.”
That quote says a lot. In ‘62 and ‘63 I was on Treasure Island in San Francisco Bay attending a Navy electronics school, two of my classmates who were E-3 which meant they were paid something like $106. a month each RENTED AN APARTMENT IN SAN FRANCISCO and lived off base on their off duty days so they would have a place to party with the girls they picked up in the bars in town. This is not fantasy, this actually happened. That is how much things have changed in fifty one or fifty two years. According to this quote a person would have to earn their nominal monthly salary for both sailors in less than six hours to rent a two bedroom apartment. Ain’t progress grand?
If the minimum wage for any toothless moron is over $20 an hour, what will skilled employees demand?
The are beyond stupid with this minimum wage crap. Clearly all prices will rise of minimum wages are increased, pushing up rents for those still employed. The losers will have to go on welfare — so they’ll have to raise welfare payments too or the poor unemployed will have to move out of Seattle.
Study: Seattle Worker Needs Minimum Wage Of $21.60/Hour To Afford Two-Bedroom Rental
In other words two people need a minimum wage of $10.80 to afford a two bedroom rental.
Minimum wage was never expected to be a sustaining wage to support one two or three people. It is an entry level wage.
“Sawant has stated that she does not advocate for any system like the bureaucratic dictatorship of the former Soviet Union, but for democratic socialism meaning the society being run democratically in the interest of all working people on the planet, all children - everybody who has needs, and all that being done in an environmentally sustainable manner.
I consider this a great illustration of why those who understand reality should cease using the word “democracy” to refer to this country. This is not supposed to be a democracy, not even a “representative democracy”, this is supposed to be a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, dang it! We play into the hands of the destroyers when we call it a democracy. Do not listen to those who claim that a republic is only a form of democracy. The Biltmore house is not just a form of a shack.