Skip to comments.Read Parent's Facebook Response to 'Ridiculous' Common Core Math Homework
Posted on 03/26/2014 10:39:08 AM PDT by grundle
A Facebook update from a father frustrated with the Common Core math program at his son's school is making the Internet rounds after the father Jeff Severt expressed (via what looks like a kid's homework assignment) how convoluted the teaching approach is.
The worksheet posted to Facebook shows the elaborate Common Core (CC) formula for solving a math problem (as opposed to the simple strategy of subtracting the smaller number from the larger one). It instructs the student to explain why a fictional kid named "Jack" should be using common core strategies to solve the problem: Jack used the number line below to solve 427 - 316. Find his error. Then write a letter to Jack telling him what he did right, and what he should do to fix his mistake.
Severt's response reads, Dear Jack, Dont feel bad. I have a Bachelor of Science Degree in Electronics Engineering, which included extensive study in differential equations and other higher math applications. Even I cannot explain the Common Core mathematics approach, nor get the answer correct. In the real world, simplification is valued over complication. Therefore, 427 - 316 = 111. The answer is solved in under 5 seconds 111. The process used is ridiculous and would result in termination if used. Sincerely, Frustrated Parent.
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Looks like they’re doing to math what they did to reading.
Core Curriculum = Yo Child Left Behind
Nothing like a number line drawn off scale and fixing someone else’s hypothetical far-fetched error to teach an eight year old how to do subtraction.
“Ambition, Distraction, Uglification, and Derision”
The designers of this common core math need to be horsewhipped. I don’t expect that to change their minds, either, but it is simple justice.
I remember doing number line exercises like this long before common core. This problem is relatively sensible and shows how to subtract hundreds, tens and ones and allows the students to learn through finding the errors of others. There’s a lot bad about common core, but I don’t think this problem is the place to do battle. Now if this is all that is taught, or if it is used to prevent full understanding rather than being a stepping stone then fight it.
You did right by trying to do your homework. However, your error was using a number line to solve an extremely simple subtraction problem. Forget common core "math" and ask your parents how to do real math .
Personally, if I were trying to solve 427-316 in my head, I too would first take off the 300, and say to myself "Okay, now it's 127-16." Then I'd take away the 6 and think "Okay, now it's 121-10," and from there I'd be okay. I think that's what they're trying to teach here.
It is just plain stupid to teach math this way.
What the hell is THAT? (3rd grade class of 1955)
I’ve never heard of Uglification.
-1 *scoffs* at you for being so gullible.
Then, on top of that, is the constant suspicion that the government wants to bring up a generation of compliant drones rather than educated citizens and common core is the path to do that.
Even there, describing how to translate the problem doesn’t need a number line. The various stages (X - Y) = ((X - 10) - (Y - 10)) could be put down as such.
This used to be called ‘going around your ass to get to your elbow.’ I would give them the benefit of the doubt if one of the numbers was negative and the problem was to explain measuring displacement on the number line, but if this is supposed to aid skill in basic subtraction it is ridiculous.
It’s like trying to teach algebra without teaching algebra.
Why not just give in and teach algebra. It could be kept really simple. This doesn’t need to be your high school algebra. Then, from the simple algebra go to the numeric applications.
They are using a number line to solve a multiplication problem. They also use hash marks to solve multiplication and division. Seems they want kids to “visualize”.
I taught my own kids. The problem here seems to be that you only use visualization until they get the concept, which is a very short time and should be done on an individual basis. “Here is a pizza - cut it into pieces”. It’s all part of holding kids back to be equal with the common herd, rather than moving forward into their excellence.
And I’m sure it all has to do with money. We all know what redoing curriculums and textbooks is all about, don’t we? Government mandated money spending to the tune of millions.
” Dear Jack,
We have found the mistake and included the correction for you.
Take this letter to your teacher, with a carbon copy for the principal, informing them you will be leaving the public school system, and will be homeschooled.
It seems this is the only correct answer to the problem of schools too stupid to teach simple basic math.”
If not, I'd take my kid out of the commie schools and get them into whatever school that will teach them correctly. Working parents or otherwise should get together and hire a retired teacher to teach their children the way we were taught in the 40s and 50s, speaking for myself and my education. These kids must not be allowed to be indoctrinated in this commie/marxist/communist attempt to educate and control OUR CHILDREN.
PARENTS, TAKE YOU CHILDREN BACK! IT IS YOUR GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO BE THE ONY PERSON WHO DECIDES HOW YOUR CHILD WILL EDUCATED. AS LONG AS YOU DO NOTHING, THEN YOU ARE COMPLIANT WITH THE LEFT. FIGHT FOR YOUR KIDS AND YOUR RIGHTS!
The ebonification of math.
Ah, any true blue FReeper would call it fact!
What did Ebonics ever do to deserve the comparison (duck’n & runn’n!)
If the students spend a week or two drawing jumps on a number line then I have no problem with it. If that ends up being their primary method or they spend months doing it then I do have a problem. One page in a workbook doesn't show which of those is true.
One thing I don't like is how this problem subtracts 300 first instead of 6, because the standard method goes from the least significant to most significant digits to handle borrowing properly.
Can you imagine how they’d handle hex?
In my grandchildren’s school district, this nonsensical system was introduced 2 years ago and is in use up through 6th grade. NONE of the parents understand it; the school district had to put a special page on its website to try to teach the parents how to help their kids. I’ve had a 10 year old dissolving in tears because she doesn’t understand it and, when I try to show her the “old” way, is afraid to try any other way than what her teacher says.
It is absolutely the most stupid thing introduced to elementary schools since “look and see, memorize, but don’t use phonics” attempts at teaching reading.
Yes, it’s a mess.
I think one of the worst parts is that it DOES alienate parents.
They used to teach borrowing and carrying with clothespins on a Masonite figure. That was close enough to the numbers on the paper to directly translate.
This is a sign that parents need to descend en masse on the school boards. Problems aren’t just on paper; they are in real life too.
By drawing a pentagram on the floor and splashing around some goat's blood? Or were you talking about hexadecimal numbers?
P.S. Why do programmers get Halloween and Christmas confused?
Another reason for the separation of School & State. BEEP!
Hexadecimal silly. Or octal?
2-3 generations of educational decline prove the fact. 40 to 60 years is no accident.
“Right” answer? There’s the problem right there. There are no right answers, only opinions. What’s important about arithmetic problems is how they make the student feel about him/her/itself. Sure, you might *think* the answer is 111, but that’s strictly a social construct of the oppressive Patriarchy. What if you’re a minority womyn in a man’s body? How oppressive is it to be told by a white heteronormative male that the “right” answer is what he thinks it is? Huh?
A government with a constitution headed like this one “We The People” will track whatever “We The People” happen to believe. Whether that is false or true or however that happened.
This is where Bible literacy used to help. It showed the major ways in which people could get themselves in trouble, and we could learn from their errors rather than in God’s school of hard knocks.
Be careful that when you point a finger at anyone three more point back at you.
I saw a post where the kid had the right answer but the teacher admonished him for not using “friendly numbers”
Looks like Jack can’t use a simple number line.
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Indiana just opted OUT or the core program....we’ll develop our own!!!!
Public education may be child abuse, but at least it costs a fortune.
The govt is attempting to train kids to think in a way that is not natural for every person.
Common Core belongs in a puzzle book collecting dust on a forgotten bookshelf.
Which is a good skill to have.
...without teaching the *techniques* those tricks are based on.
And you know this as a fact because you've seen all of the previous pages of the workbook in question? Or are you just jumping to this conclusion without any evidence to back it up?
The right answer is not relevant....it’s the new standard process that you must follow as the regime dictates
Hexadecimal silly. Or octal?
Hex is shorthand for binary..
I hear you Joy. When I was in CA., visiting my granddaughters , I was amazed to see this crazy way they teach math. The eight year old was also reduced to tears trying to grasp, what to me, what should have been simple problems.
My almost 11 year old and 13 year old grandsons, in MA., don’t seem to be having this problem but then the 13 year old could probably run circles around the teacher. He’s one of those people that has a mind for mathematics.
Now that's funny. I remember teaching alternative number systems to my kids. It's not really hard. Best way is to start with a clock. Time is actually more complex than a lot of folks really thing You're looking at at least three separate bases. Depending upon whether or not you're using military time, whether or not you care about am/pm indicators it can be more.
I've seen plenty of examples of CC here and elsewhere as well, followed by a bunch of people jumping to the unsupported conclusion that traditional columner math wasn't already taught in an earlier lesson.
Some math methods work best when you have paper and pencil ("the old way"), and others work best when you're trying to do math in your head (what I suspect is the point of the given exercise).
If you are a proponent of CC, then please explain how it is better than the old way.
I am not a proponent of CC. The difference between us is that you (and a whole bunch of FReepers, btw) are basing your arguments on the assumtion that the old way isn't also being taught.
Are children learning faster? Will they be more proficient? Will they be functional in life, art, business and the scientific community? Where are there studies that were made, pro or con, before this standard was made official? Everything I read about the pros of CC are full of empty buzzwords.
I have no idea.
Recently I attended a meeting led by someone from HSLDA. The talk turned to Common Core. I have to admit, I didn’t understand what Common Core was until that meeting.
Everyone was talking about correct answers being marked wrong because the student didn’t explain it the way Common Core wants it explained.
And eventually, the SAT could be changed to match this Common Core nonsense.