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Facebook meme claims Rand Paul and Marco Rubio have anti-science views on dinosaurs, earth's age
PolitiFact.com ^ | March 25, 2014

Posted on 03/26/2014 12:22:41 PM PDT by EveningStar

A new Facebook meme paints two leading Republicans as anti-science because of their alleged views of the age of the Earth.

The Facebook group Being Liberal posted a picture March 10, 2014, featuring side-by-side images of Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., and Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., looking somewhat sheepish. Bolded text under the images describes the senators’ views on the age of the Earth and the extinction of the dinosaurs.

According to the meme, Rubio "believes Earth (is) 9,000 years old," and "humans hunted dinosaurs to extinction." Paul, the image proclaims, says the Earth is 10,000 years old and believes "God made dinosaurs disappear to make space for humans." The post received about 5,500 likes and was shared more than 4,000 times.

Upon seeing this, we couldn’t resist digging in and finding out just what these two senators believe about the age of the Earth and the demise of the dinosaurs.

(Excerpt) Read more at politifact.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Kentucky
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1 posted on 03/26/2014 12:22:41 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

We live in a nation of mental boobs. So tired of this crap.


2 posted on 03/26/2014 12:25:27 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: EveningStar

These leftists are OBSESSED with evolution. To me, 6,000 years of history is more than enough to deal with. What happened before that, I couldn’t care less.


3 posted on 03/26/2014 12:26:29 PM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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To: EveningStar

Leaving aside the arguments for or against, their views of the earth’s age are not really material, unless the authors mean to fashion a message...which they apparently do.


4 posted on 03/26/2014 12:26:50 PM PDT by lurk
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To: EveningStar

I would ridicule these liberals for believing that we basically evolved from a pile of goo!


5 posted on 03/26/2014 12:27:45 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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To: EveningStar; GeronL

And Obama doesn’t regard Jesus as his personal Savior. </ ObamaTruthFile >


6 posted on 03/26/2014 12:27:58 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: EveningStar

If some smart ass tries to corner you with a question like “what is the age of the earth” just say “I don’t know. I wasn’t there. Maybe you should ask my opponent”.


7 posted on 03/26/2014 12:28:59 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: cotton1706

The way things are going I am beginning to not care about the future ;)


8 posted on 03/26/2014 12:29:48 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: EveningStar

These rat bastards never shut their contaminated pie holes.


9 posted on 03/26/2014 12:29:52 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: EveningStar

I understand the science, and the logic behind the science. But I still give the Bible greater credibility.

Any candidate with balls big enough to claim the same publicly, would be a plus in my book.


10 posted on 03/26/2014 12:30:44 PM PDT by DannyTN ( .)
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To: P-Marlowe

In the 2012 election cycle, Republicans were asked (at Democrat moderated debates) various questions about their Christian faith, evolution, etc.

Obama was not pressed to declare his own lack of belief in Jesus as the only way to Salvation. Yet the church going (and preaching) voters saw him as a Christian (because his campaign staff said he was). His site even claimed in the fight the smears section that he was a LIFE LONG Christian. Elsewhere he held himself at a higher moral position because he “came to Christ” on his own (without his parents’ influence) later in life as an adult (it was the former muslim Jeremiah Wright who “brought him there”).

Either religious questions are fair game for all candidates of they aren’t. Letting Democrats moderate GOP primaries is stupid.


11 posted on 03/26/2014 12:33:19 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: All; ilgipper; cotton1706; lurk; JSDude1; a fool in paradise

I’m wondering if anyone here read the entire article.


12 posted on 03/26/2014 12:34:29 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Good to see the Dems haven’t abandoned their strategy of distracting you with shiny objects.


13 posted on 03/26/2014 12:34:45 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: EveningStar

This has nothing to do with science or history, at its core. It has everything to do with the “personalized” “entity” science providing the basis for using ridicule as an attack mechanism. Both Alinsky tools/tactics.

Darwinism and “Science” are a mean to an end...yet the left loons will continue to stump in ethnically specific churches...won’t they.


14 posted on 03/26/2014 12:38:27 PM PDT by sayfer bullets (“I didn’t leave the [---] party, the [---] party left me.” - Ronald Reagan)
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To: DannyTN

Any presidential candidate spouting creationism will come off looking like a certified kook.


15 posted on 03/26/2014 12:38:38 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: DannyTN

Amen. As previously mentioned, they weren’t there. Historical science ain’t observable and repeatable and therefore ain’t in the same category as operational science. Adam, for instance, being created fully grown, would have an appearance of age, just as the trees, etc., that were instantaneously created would have.

This then boils down to faith. Do we have faith that the science is true and the Bible is a lie, or do we have faith that the Bible is true and science (as evolutionists interpret it) is a lie? As for me and my house...


16 posted on 03/26/2014 12:39:17 PM PDT by afsnco
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To: EveningStar

The Libs are pushing an artificial meme to continue the “war on science” talking point.

If a Republican candidate has a religious base, the push will be on to make him appear to be a “flat earther”.

Democrats are not held to this same standard. Let alone the talking points used by the Left are manufactured lies (lies by omission are lies as well).


17 posted on 03/26/2014 12:41:50 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: EveningStar; NFHale; sickoflibs
had to go to the sight and read the whole thing...*shocked* that the retard sight called 'being liberal' would take a statement out of context and make up *facts* out of whole cloth for their drooling followers...

as stated upstream, the *science* is arguable, so any pol willing to state their beliefs and stick to them gets a plus in their column from me...

and at this point, the pluses are so few, any are welcomed to motivate me to vote *for* a particular person...

18 posted on 03/26/2014 12:42:22 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: EveningStar

According to Gallup, 46% of Americans believe in Creationism.
I think it’s time we quit worrying about what the liberal press tells us will make us look like kooks.

A good portion of the rest, will realize that it doesn’t matter for policy.

I’d rather look like a kook than a RINO.


19 posted on 03/26/2014 12:43:32 PM PDT by DannyTN ( .)
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To: EveningStar

According to Gallup, 46% of Americans believe in Creationism.
I think it’s time we quit worrying about what the liberal press tells us will make us look like kooks.

A good portion of the rest, will realize that it doesn’t matter for policy.

I’d rather look like a kook than a RINO.


20 posted on 03/26/2014 12:43:32 PM PDT by DannyTN ( .)
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To: cotton1706

It’s necessary to maintain their Humanist worldview.


21 posted on 03/26/2014 12:45:59 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: EveningStar

I believe in Jesus horses!!


22 posted on 03/26/2014 12:46:40 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: DannyTN

I guess the inventor of the MRI was “anti-science”...

Wonder how he was able to do that...


23 posted on 03/26/2014 12:47:04 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: EveningStar
Just once, I'd like someone to ask some hard questions of a Demon Rat politician:

Do you believe in God? Do you believe God created the heaven and the earth?

Should illegals get welfare? Should illegals be allowed to vote?

Should third trimester abortions be legal? How long should people receive welfare benefits? What top tax rate is fair?

Romney was quoted as saying that 47% of citizens pay no taxes at all. Do you think that number is correct? What percentage of non taxpayers do you think is sustainable?

Instead we get: "How great is it to be President?" and "What superpower would you want to have?"

24 posted on 03/26/2014 12:47:45 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: EveningStar

Some lib facebook page no one has heard of makes claims and its instantly a news story...this is ridiculous and a distraction.


25 posted on 03/26/2014 12:49:21 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: MrB
It's not just the inventor of the MRI. Most Scientific fields of study were established by scientists who believed in creation.

Bible believing scientists of the past

26 posted on 03/26/2014 12:50:06 PM PDT by DannyTN ( .)
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To: P-Marlowe

Or they can say, “When my democrat opponent says when they believe that human life begins in the womb, I will say when I think human life began on Earth.”


27 posted on 03/26/2014 12:51:04 PM PDT by Lou Budvis
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To: EveningStar
Liberals/Progressives lie, period! Without lies they have nothing. Not one position taken by lib-Progessives can stand up to scrutiny. They make ridiculous un-scientific claims such as "consciousness begins in the 4th or 5th week after conception" and then accuse Republicans of being anti-science.

Liberals/Progressives rale against religion in government but a theocracy of their pseudo-religious neo-Druidic New Age mish mash of beliefs is just what they want. It's somewhat amusing since the real Druids would have probably considered today's liberals to be insane and driven them out or put them to death.

I don't care what a politician believes the age of the earth is. If the libs think that's a determination of mental fitness then let's have all political candidates take a real mental evaluation exam and an IQ test and publish the results before they are elected. We'll see how many Dems and how many Pubbies are left.

28 posted on 03/26/2014 12:51:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: EveningStar

RE: Facebook meme claims Rand Paul and Marco Rubio have anti-science views on dinosaurs, earth’s age

Rand Paul is a doctor, a successful ophthalmologist who still practices today. Does his view on the earth’s age affect his ability as an ophthalmologist or as a legislator?

Same question applies to Marco Rubio?

I would say the answer is NO.

Now let’s ask ourselves the question -— Obama believes that Intelligent Design is divisive and should not be taught. What kind of legislator and president was/is he?


29 posted on 03/26/2014 12:52:39 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (question is this)
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To: Lou Budvis

Good... but refined a bit by flipping it over to demand they define when it’s no longer OK to kill a baby in the womb,

and then tell us why 1 second previous it was OK.


30 posted on 03/26/2014 12:55:27 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: DannyTN

I do not think you can say that scientists who lived before discovery of information on the age of the Earth, Universe, etc. can be classified as “creationists” in the sense that they would now believe that the everything was created in an actual week.

As far as 40% of Americans believing in “Creationism,” does that mean that they believe that everything was created in 1 week - or merely that God created the universe?


31 posted on 03/26/2014 1:01:18 PM PDT by Lou Budvis
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To: EveningStar

LOOK! A SQUIRREL!


32 posted on 03/26/2014 1:04:59 PM PDT by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: EveningStar

Democrats wouldn’t know real science if it was a government program.

Ask a Dem if the Earth is at apogee or perigee on Dec 21st in North America and they’ll just stare at you like a college kids trying to name a senator.


33 posted on 03/26/2014 1:10:02 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I support Joe Carr in the TN GOP Primary against Lamar!)
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To: Fledermaus

Forget apogee/perigee (it’s actually at perigee, but it’s not distance to sun that brings summer or winter, but angle of orientation, because the orbit is so nearly circular). Why is there a summer or winter at all?


34 posted on 03/26/2014 1:12:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Frankly, I don't give a s*** what a candidate's view is regarding the age of the Earth. Facebook from the FRchives:
35 posted on 03/26/2014 1:12:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alreadyposted/index)
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To: EveningStar

Outside of the obviousness of this lie by these liars, I have to wonder why they think anyone’s opinion about the age of the earth is even consequential. I bet these folks consider evolution to be law and not a theory, yet they also somehow think that the “gay gene” has survived evolution....

I’d also bet that they think homosexuality is natural, yet it is impossible for two members of the same sex of any species to pro-create....

Dear “Being Liberal” take the plank out of your own eye before you start talking about the spec in others...


36 posted on 03/26/2014 1:13:05 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: lurk

I agree


37 posted on 03/26/2014 1:13:53 PM PDT by mel (There are only 2 races decent and undecent people)
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To: Fledermaus

Wasn’t there some recent study or survey where they asked political affiliation and 10 basic science questions and Dems missed 70-80% of them?


38 posted on 03/26/2014 1:14:32 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I support Joe Carr in the TN GOP Primary against Lamar!)
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To: Lou Budvis

And let’s take the bull by the horns. Suppose we stood on one week.

Who says that the universe of pre-Eden and post-Eden are the same? Or of pre-Flood and post-Flood?

The bible doesn’t. Modern science “presumes.” Science fiction has a better grasp on some of the concepts required, ironically.


39 posted on 03/26/2014 1:14:45 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Lou Budvis; DannyTN
As far as 40% of Americans believing in “Creationism,” does that mean that they believe that everything was created in 1 week - or merely that God created the universe?

My question as well. Are they talking about belief in creation or Creationism?

40 posted on 03/26/2014 1:15:00 PM PDT by FreedomOfExpression
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To: P-Marlowe

Doesn’t seem to matter whether you take that approach or not, because the left will just make up an answer to make you look silly, as they did here.


41 posted on 03/26/2014 1:15:11 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You get a Mr. Wizard Gold Star! lol


42 posted on 03/26/2014 1:15:55 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I support Joe Carr in the TN GOP Primary against Lamar!)
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To: Fledermaus

And most young earth creationists nail other science questions far better than their old earth counterparts.

Caring about a paradox means caring about the entire picture, too. These are not a bunch of empty headed yeehaws!


43 posted on 03/26/2014 1:16:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: EveningStar

Ted should have a science debate with some jerk from MSNBC, he would clean the floor with them.


44 posted on 03/26/2014 1:19:48 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: DannyTN
I’d rather look like a kook than a RINO.

I'm with you on that.

To go a little further. If the "kook" wants my vote, he must recognize a power greater than himself and the absolute difference between good and evil. It is the elitist "non-kooks" that know everything that have been the curse of mankind.

45 posted on 03/26/2014 1:22:58 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: EveningStar

We have paradigm shifts at the eviction from Eden and at the Flood.

To humbly say that we can’t assume we are always dealing with the same universe would be to embarrass a science which assumes we are.


46 posted on 03/26/2014 1:26:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: P-Marlowe

[ If some smart ass tries to corner you with a question like “what is the age of the earth” just say “I don’t know. I wasn’t there. Maybe you should ask my opponent”. ]

Maybe the best way to answer that is that the scientific age of the earth has varied over the last several hundred years with the people thinking it was hundreds of thousands of years old to millions to billions. Then say “If I give you an answer of 4.3 billion years and next year the next hot theory says the earth is 4.5 billion years old can I get a promise from you and your network that you won’t endlessly use that clip to bash me on your network for thinking the earth is 200 million years younger than what will then be a claim by the establishment to be scientifically accurate?”

The thing is you don’t answer the question with a number, let the questioner KNOW that you will not fall for their feeble Saul Alinsky attempt to divide your current base on an issue that at the end of the days nothing to do whatsoever to how you will govern.

Or you could use humor to answer it and use a pop culture reference like: “Well my TARDIS is in the shop right now so I can’t get you an exact figure on the age of the earth right now, and it is expected to take20 years to get it fixed, ask me then.”


47 posted on 03/26/2014 1:27:12 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG

“Old enough”


48 posted on 03/26/2014 1:29:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Talking Head: "How old is the earth?"

Politician: "Old enough. How old are you?"

LOL

49 posted on 03/26/2014 1:31:11 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: EveningStar

Politifact is now investigating Facebook memes?


50 posted on 03/26/2014 1:34:09 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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