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College athletes can unionize, federal agency says
Associated Press ^ | March 26, 2014 | Michael Tarm

Posted on 03/26/2014 12:33:35 PM PDT by AU72

In a stunning ruling that has the potential to revolutionize college athletics, a federal agency said Wednesday that football players at Northwestern University can create the nation's first college athlete's union.

The decision by a regional director of the National Labor Relations Board means it agrees football players at the Big Ten school qualify as employees under federal law and therefore can legally unionize.

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Well, I could say it serves the NCAA right.
1 posted on 03/26/2014 12:33:35 PM PDT by AU72
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To: AU72

And there goes college football.


2 posted on 03/26/2014 12:35:37 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: AU72

That will leave a mark. Now watch high schools get even more sports-centric. We already have one around here. A certain school that has a 3-1 ratio of boys over girls and if you are on the baseball team (they have 3) you can do no wrong.


3 posted on 03/26/2014 12:36:02 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: AU72

The Girl’s Vollyball players are employees too. They can Unionize and get payed. They just can’t play Vollyball in the NCAA.


4 posted on 03/26/2014 12:36:15 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: AU72
In a stunning ruling that has the potential to revolutionize COMPLETELY KILL college athletics, a federal agency said Wednesday that football players at Northwestern University can create the nation's first college athlete's union.

There, I corrected it for them!
5 posted on 03/26/2014 12:37:38 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: AU72

What do we know about the self-appointed union head, Ramogi Huma? Who appointed him god?


6 posted on 03/26/2014 12:37:47 PM PDT by ken5050 (I fear a world run by adults who were never spanked as kids and got trophies just for participating)
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To: AU72

Obama appointee? Yeah, I’m stuned.


7 posted on 03/26/2014 12:38:59 PM PDT by alancarp
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To: ken5050

I can safely say this will be one organizing election the unions will win.


8 posted on 03/26/2014 12:39:56 PM PDT by AU72
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Hey, Johnny Football, slow down, your makin’ the rest of us look bad.


9 posted on 03/26/2014 12:40:16 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: AU72

Well, one would be hard put to argue that they are all diligent students with a priority of earning a degree. Looks to me like some people use the university as a step to going pro, and some universities want them to do just that, because it is more fun and profitable to have a winning team, especially when you don’t have to make a serious attempt to educate the players.

I am torn about college athletics. You kind of need a football game, or there is no reason for a half-time show (my favorite part). But the whole thing is way far away from the goal of educating students, and a real student who also likes football is never going to get a chance to play for his school.


10 posted on 03/26/2014 12:40:27 PM PDT by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: AU72

Gee, which socialist asshat to side with, the NCAA or the NLRB.

Might be a good popcorn moment.


11 posted on 03/26/2014 12:40:41 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
And there goes college football. And all of college sports.
12 posted on 03/26/2014 12:40:44 PM PDT by caligatrux
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To: Resolute Conservative

Right-to-work clauses, seniority, job posting, stewards, etc. coming to a team near you.


13 posted on 03/26/2014 12:40:57 PM PDT by shove_it (my real nickname is Otter)
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To: AU72

Who pays the union dues?


14 posted on 03/26/2014 12:41:00 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: AU72

(1) They don’t have to PLAY.


15 posted on 03/26/2014 12:42:30 PM PDT by boycott
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To: EQAndyBuzz

College football will be fine, it’s NCAA that’s doomed.


16 posted on 03/26/2014 12:42:40 PM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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Great. A group of college kids with the ability to take a labor action on game day and ruin 109k people’s day.

What could possible go wrong?


17 posted on 03/26/2014 12:43:34 PM PDT by socal_parrot (I hate to say I told you so, but...)
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To: AU72

Since they are now employees, their scholarships must be considered as taxable income.


18 posted on 03/26/2014 12:43:47 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: AU72

What about college badminton? There be sumpin’ racis ‘bout this.


19 posted on 03/26/2014 12:44:51 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: AU72
The decision by a regional director of the National Labor Relations Board means it agrees football players at the Big Ten school qualify as employees under federal law and therefore can legally unionize.

I do not think that this matters a whole lot. In my opinion the "high water" mark for football took place last year.

Do not know whether the decline will be fast or slow.

20 posted on 03/26/2014 12:44:56 PM PDT by olezip (Time obliterates the fictions of opinion and confirms the decisions of nature. ~ Cicero)
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To: AU72

goofy.


21 posted on 03/26/2014 12:45:15 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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What about the Band Members? ...the Debate Team?


22 posted on 03/26/2014 12:46:45 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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What about the Band Members? ...the Debate Team?

They're collateral damage...the Dogs of War are loose.

23 posted on 03/26/2014 12:50:44 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: AU72
Ok NCAA rules say college athletes CAN NOT be compensated or they are not eligible to play in the NCAA (which is the only game in town). So what will there be for the union to negotiate? If a college breaks down and pays their players, they get kicked out of the NCAA, essentially killing their football program.
24 posted on 03/26/2014 12:50:48 PM PDT by apillar
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What happens when these “students” graduate?

Will they have to resign from their union?


25 posted on 03/26/2014 12:51:02 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I don't want to feel "safe." I want to feel FREE!)
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To: reg45

Since they are now employees, their scholarships must be considered as taxable income.

**BINGO!!


26 posted on 03/26/2014 12:51:10 PM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: AU72

Oh, great, just what we need: gangs of unionized curling punks and field hockey players stalking the campus.


27 posted on 03/26/2014 12:51:42 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: TexasCajun

They don’t have to put up with idiotic NCAA rules. Really that’s what this is all about, the NCAA’s hard ban on athletes receiving any level of compensation, including the kind of stipends that come with academic scholarships.


28 posted on 03/26/2014 12:52:35 PM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

It should end all scholarships.


29 posted on 03/26/2014 12:54:04 PM PDT by edcoil (Not a single republican was ever a slave owner. They were all democrats.)
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We are all union thugs now.
30 posted on 03/26/2014 12:54:16 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it.")
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Getting rid of that rule. Either by forcing the NCAA to chance, or getting the schools out of the NCAA. The later is more likely, schools are getting tired of the NCAA and their constant “investigations” and having wins vacated. It’s why they’re forming the super conferences.


31 posted on 03/26/2014 12:54:18 PM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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Since they are now employees, their scholarships must be considered as taxable income.

And THAT is going to leave a mark. Heh, heh...
32 posted on 03/26/2014 12:54:31 PM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: AU72

now that is one of the stupidest things that has ever been said by the Labor Board....We’ll see if it actually holds


33 posted on 03/26/2014 12:55:31 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: AU72

I’m not for any government sanctioned or promoted unionizing ‘rights’.

But so long as we have them, they might as well extend to our play as much as our work.

Perhaps it’ll wake a few people up to the absurdity of it all.


34 posted on 03/26/2014 12:56:12 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: alancarp

you maybe stuned but I want to know if your berber is on


35 posted on 03/26/2014 12:56:32 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: discostu

So players coming out of high school will go to the highest bidder. This will make LeBron James jealous.


36 posted on 03/26/2014 12:56:34 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: AU72

Ruling kind of makes hash of amateur status doesn’t it? And since they are now employees and there is no law anywhere mandating that a concern must have an equal number of male/female employees it also makes hash of Title 9. Schools can now spend anything they want on mens’ sports, call the players employees and drop every women’s sport into limbo.


37 posted on 03/26/2014 12:56:51 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (.You have never tasted freedom, else you would know it is purchased not with gold but with steel)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Only 1% of college players get into the NFL, there goes their educations and positive chance at life.


38 posted on 03/26/2014 12:57:09 PM PDT by edcoil (Not a single republican was ever a slave owner. They were all democrats.)
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To: TexasCajun

No more rowing team, track and field, a lot of sports will fold or get too expensive.


39 posted on 03/26/2014 12:58:38 PM PDT by edcoil (Not a single republican was ever a slave owner. They were all democrats.)
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To: xkaydet65

Elections have consequences, Chapter XXV.


40 posted on 03/26/2014 12:58:42 PM PDT by AU72
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To: 9YearLurker

Duane The Rock Johnson played DE for U of Miami. He was a Senior when a Freshman named Warren Sapp showed up on campus. Sapp started that year. Would the Unionized Seniors go on Strike?


41 posted on 03/26/2014 1:00:01 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: AU72

Unionization, the kiss of death.


42 posted on 03/26/2014 1:01:12 PM PDT by lurk
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They already go to the highest bidder, they just bid under the table. It’s amazing how many boosters own cars they “lend” to the athletic department, and all kinds of other sneaky payments. Nobody is going to be getting LeBron money, but they will be able to get the scholarship stipends most people on academic scholarships get, and they’ll be able to trade autographed pictures of themselves for haircuts. Just like every other time unions have been formed the bosses have nobody but themselves to blame, they decided on a system where everybody but the athletes make money on what the athletes do, and made it so even the smallest compensation risked the athlete’s career. Eventually the athletes were going to call them on it.


43 posted on 03/26/2014 1:01:36 PM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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To: AU72

If student athletes are employees, then their free tuition and other benefits such as meals, rooms, etc. are wages and taxable, no? Given the cost of these items, it puts most big time college football players in the category of $50,000 per year wage earners without even receiving a cash salary.

They would have to bargain for a lot more money in cash just to be able to pay their taxes.

If they get cut from a team for non-performance, won’t they be entitled to unemployment benefits?

There will be a lot of unexpected ramifications of this ruling if it is allowed to go forward.


44 posted on 03/26/2014 1:02:28 PM PDT by wildbill
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Actually if they break up the NCAA you’ll likely see a lot of these minor sports come back. The NCAA’s head count interpretation of title 9 is what killed a lot of these small (mostly only male) sports because schools couldn’t keep them and have same number of male and female athlete. If they kill the NCAA title 9 reverts to equal opportunity (as written) and numeric imbalance becomes legal again.


45 posted on 03/26/2014 1:04:10 PM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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The guy who made this ruling is a complete idiot with an obvious agenda. Its a racist ruling about helping minorities.


46 posted on 03/26/2014 1:07:00 PM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: AU72

At the big schools, everyone makes money off of college football except for the players. The schools make money, the NCAA makes money, the networks make money and even the video game makers make money off of using the players’ likenesses.

The athletes make nothing, while all the others make millions or billions.

Good move for the athletes.


47 posted on 03/26/2014 1:07:45 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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Northwestern is in Evanston/Chicago. Chicago is in Illinois. Illinois is in the Rust Belt aka the Upper Midwest.

So, these ‘intelligent’ Northwestern students, many of whom also grew up in the Rust Belt, now attend a school in the Rust Belt and can see the Rust Belt in ruins all around them and still conclude that unions are a good thing.


48 posted on 03/26/2014 1:11:17 PM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The End)
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To: massgopguy

Ha ha—seniority rules could really muck up the system.


49 posted on 03/26/2014 1:12:08 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: apillar

If enough colleges set up unions for athletes, couldn’t they form another organization, a new league, apart from the NCAA? Maybe that’s where this will go. A core group of colleges will form a league, and play only each other???


50 posted on 03/26/2014 1:13:18 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (as)
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