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College athletes can unionize, federal agency says
Associated Press ^ | March 26, 2014 | Michael Tarm

Posted on 03/26/2014 12:33:35 PM PDT by AU72

In a stunning ruling that has the potential to revolutionize college athletics, a federal agency said Wednesday that football players at Northwestern University can create the nation's first college athlete's union.

The decision by a regional director of the National Labor Relations Board means it agrees football players at the Big Ten school qualify as employees under federal law and therefore can legally unionize.

(Excerpt) Read more at bigstory.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: unions
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To: relictele

Northwestern has a national student body. The ex-player who led this unionization thing is from Denver,CO.


81 posted on 03/26/2014 2:38:34 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Oliviaforever

But real students don’t bring in millions of dollars of revenue. The athletes aren’t taking up space, they’re funding parts of the school.


82 posted on 03/26/2014 2:40:05 PM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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To: shove_it

...and don’t forget discrimination charges for lack of playing time


83 posted on 03/26/2014 2:43:02 PM PDT by rights with responsibilities
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To: discostu

How many football programs bring big money to their schools?

The last answer I saw to that question is around 50.

The remainder lose money.


84 posted on 03/26/2014 2:46:07 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Oliviaforever
First, 80% of the football players at D1 schools do not meet academic standards for the schools. They are there by design to play football, not earn a degree.

First, I am not sure where you got your data, but the highest percentage that I could find was one study stated 60%. But, in fairness, only 27% of ALL college students typically graduate on time, so I could guess that at least 60% of ALL college students do not meet academic standards to be in college. But I bet that doesn't bother you.

Second, since they are not academically qualified, they are taking up spaces in the school that could be used by real students.

Second, I point you to my first answer.

Just as a side note, the fact is that only about 27% of ALL college graduates work in a field related to their college degree. So, exactly how useful would all that extra space, freed up by dumping those unqualified neanderthals, be to all those "real" students? Oh, that's right, making all those "real" students pay full tuition would allow many of those six-figure professors and deans to become seven and eight figure professors and deans. That's oh so much better than giving a neanderthal athlete the opportunity to get a degree.
85 posted on 03/26/2014 2:47:58 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: Oliviaforever

Pretty much everybody in div 1:
http://money.cnn.com/2010/12/29/news/companies/college_football_dollars/
Especially the ones in the major conferences.


86 posted on 03/26/2014 2:53:38 PM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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To: ExTxMarine

Academic qualifications for college consists of SAT scores, ACT scores, GPA and class rank, not how long it takes to graduate or the type of job obtained after graduation.

Can you name one big time college football coach that was fired due to low graduation rates?


87 posted on 03/26/2014 2:58:18 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Oliviaforever
How many football programs bring big money to their schools?

It isn't just about bringing money and making a profit in the sports program.

Having those big, popular sports teams draws students who want to be apart of that atmosphere. I saw a study that stated that nearly 50% of all Div I students listed their sports teams as a reason for attending their school of choice - even those not in athletics.

You ever run a business? You have to spend money to make money and, as a whole, those colleges ARE MAKING money!
88 posted on 03/26/2014 3:01:05 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: Oliviaforever

So, so long as they succeeded in high school, you could give a rat’s ass if they actually succeed in college. Good to know that you care so little for those who are spending money, they don’t have, on their hopes and dreams.

I kind of think that we should be putting those who will actually succeed in a college environment into college, not kicking out athletes because you think they are stupid and shouldn’t be in college.

Can you name one entry-level, burger flipper with a college degree that can actually make their college loan payment on their wages?


89 posted on 03/26/2014 3:04:54 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: discostu

That data is three years old.

Texas, Michigan, Ohio State make money, but smaller schools do not make money.

And the big time schools in the major conferences make money as the networks pay to broadcast a Michigan, ND or Texas game but do not pay big money to broadcast an Iowa State game.

However, Texas shares money earned with schools like Iowa State.


90 posted on 03/26/2014 3:11:07 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Oliviaforever

The data is scattered, but all of it says that most div1 football programs, especially those in the big conferences, turn a profit. It also shows college athletics as a whole tend to turn a profit (remember they also have basketball, which not only has massive revenue but it dirt cheap to put out there).

Sorry but athletes bring money to the schools.


91 posted on 03/26/2014 3:14:24 PM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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To: discostu

“.... a system where everybody but the athletes make money on what the athletes do,”

Attending Northwestern (where this case arose) costs $50K+/year. The athletes’ scholarships wipe out that cost. Only the very best athletes (top 1%) ever go on to the pros in any sport. But their educations, if they actually pay attention to that part, stay with them for life.


92 posted on 03/26/2014 3:16:37 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: ExTxMarine

Some colleges make money off of football and those that do should survive and at least pay players for the jerseys they sell with their name.


93 posted on 03/26/2014 3:17:11 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: EDINVA

But they’re not even allowed to sell their autograph (though the school and NCAA can). And students on academic scholarships get stipends which the NCAA won’t allow.

The simple fact is they’re getting screwed. People getting screwed have an unfortunate habit of forming unions.


94 posted on 03/26/2014 3:21:44 PM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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To: married21

Tell truth, if you put more science labs and business (real business) courses and eliminated the athletics, prices for schools would go way down and there would be no new need for millions, with which to build football stadiums. Schools are supposed to be about studying, but now it’s all wrapped up in athletics.


95 posted on 03/26/2014 3:38:33 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: discostu

Those schools only make money by furniture of there being in the same conferences as Texas, Michigan, Ohio State,Florida LSU, USC, Oregon, Georgia, Alabama, etc.

Abolish the conferences and the schools are now subsidized by the big schools Will be out of the football business.


96 posted on 03/26/2014 3:39:27 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Oliviaforever

The big programs are going to break away and start their own league, I believe.


97 posted on 03/26/2014 3:40:42 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Oliviaforever

They will be canceling every other sport.

And girls—no NCAA, no Title IX. Say good bye to women’s hockey, etc.


98 posted on 03/26/2014 3:48:13 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Oliviaforever

They make money. The whys and wherefores don’t matter. They make money, thus proving you were wrong when you said most of them don’t make money.


99 posted on 03/26/2014 3:48:15 PM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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To: dfwgator

Exactly.

That is exactly what the big programs and the TV networks want.

32 schools, big games on TV every week and no time wasted watching Alabama play South East Mississippi State School for the Left- Handed Dyslexic.


100 posted on 03/26/2014 3:54:19 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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