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IRS chief: Producing documents could take years
Yahoo! News ^ | 3/26/14 | Alan Fram - ap

Posted on 03/26/2014 2:20:02 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON (AP) — The head of the Internal Revenue Service told House Republicans on Wednesday that it would take years to provide all the documents they have subpoenaed in their probe of how the agency handled tea party groups' applications for tax-exempt status.

The comments by IRS chief John Koskinen drew a frosty response from Republicans who run the House Government Oversight and Reform Committee, one of several congressional panels investigating the controversy. The panel's chairman, Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., warned him he should comply with the request "or potentially be held in contempt" of Congress, a sometimes threatened but seldom-used authority.

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1 posted on 03/26/2014 2:20:02 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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So far, no evidence has been released showing that officials outside the IRS ordered the focus on conservative groups or were aware of it. Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland, the committee’s top Democrat, said the panel is involved in a “partisan search for nonexistent connections to the White House.”


2 posted on 03/26/2014 2:20:42 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Ooooohhh....they may be held in contempt...or be sent a strongly worded letter...


3 posted on 03/26/2014 2:21:22 PM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Put the WHOLE IRS in search of the documents.
DO SOMETHING WORTHWHILE.


4 posted on 03/26/2014 2:22:20 PM PDT by golfisnr1
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To: rottndog

You’ll know it’s over if Obama slips a Medal Of Freedom around Lois’s neck down the road.


5 posted on 03/26/2014 2:22:52 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
I am so sick of these federal bureaucrats. They work for you and me. They should all be fired with no pensions,
6 posted on 03/26/2014 2:23:27 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "h.ng the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: NormsRevenge

Sure. Anything to protect the great marxist in chief.


7 posted on 03/26/2014 2:25:16 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Put the IRS ‘ho in the hoosegow now!


8 posted on 03/26/2014 2:25:21 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: NormsRevenge

If Obama ever leaves the White House the smoke from the incinerators will Blacken The Sky


9 posted on 03/26/2014 2:25:42 PM PDT by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: NormsRevenge

I’ll remember that excuse if they ever audit me. “Gee Mr. IRS clown, I’d love to help out with producing the items you requested but it could take years.” I wonder how far that would get me.

Issa has balls like Porky Pig. His threats mean nothing.


10 posted on 03/26/2014 2:26:24 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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To: NormsRevenge

You can bet that, if they were auditing you or me, and we had thousands of pages of documents to review, they would find a way to get through them in very short order.


11 posted on 03/26/2014 2:27:52 PM PDT by NEMDF
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Issa is useless----but keeping this alive is bad news for skittish Democrats with 2014 looming.

THE FACTS ARE CLEAR There’s enough available evidence that the IRS conspired to single out taxpayers based on political beliefs.

Issa wont act----but there's more ways than one to nail these SOB's. All of the IRS' misdeeds need to go viral---Twitter, Facebook, youtube networks....and so on.

INCONVENIENT FACTOIDS

Candidate obama said tea parties are a threat to democracy.

Valerie Jarrett said they "would not forget" which Americans did not worship Obama.

obama told latinos we will reward our friends and punish our enemies.

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Let's not forget other Obama worshippers colluding to target conservatives......like Hollywood.

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Conservatives have got to start asking---How Did Obama and His Democrat Minions Get So Much Power Over the IRS?

DID THE IRS JIHAD AGAINST CONSERVATIVES BEGIN WHEN OBAMA TOOKOVER THE US TREASURY? WHAT MISCHIEF WERE OBAMA/RAHM EMANUEL UP TO AT THE US TREASURY (IRS is an agency of the US Treasury)?

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THIS MADE ME LAUGH OUT LOUD shortly after quitting his powerful WH job as Obama's COS, Rahm held a presser declaring he "just remembered" he really, Really wanted to be Mayor of Chicago. Then Rahm announced he had magically "raised" $10 million for his campaign in "just a matter of weeks." (waiting for hysterical laughter to die down). Ya gotta wonder how much Wall Street Rahm wired offshore when Obama put him in charge of the entire US Treasury. Read on.

CONNECTING THE DOTS: Obama's stranglehold on Treasury via COS Rahm Emanuel's dual role

THE TARGETING PAPER TRAIL BEGINS: Soon as they occupied the WH, Obama and the Chicago con artists (a) took control of the US Census; (b) Obama placed his COS Rahm Emanuel in control of the US Dept of the Treasury (the IRS).

THE SMOKING GUN---WSJ REPORT--On Jan 20, 2009 Timothy Geithner was appointed Obama's Secy of the Treasury. But within three weeks, the Obama White House tightened its grip on Treasury. Obama put his COS, Rahm Emanuel, in charge of Treasury---Rahm Emanuel's dual role was an unusual move.

When he got to Treasury, WH COS Rahm Emanuel was so involved in the inner workings of the Treasury that the phrase "Rahm wants it" had become an unofficial mantra among subservient govt staffers, prostrate in obeisance, scurrying to accede to Rahm's wishes, according to Treasury government officials. Reported by WSJ / 05/31/09

More here: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124113406528875137.html

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Tea Party organizer Mark Meckler's "Citizens for Self-Governance" most recent project is called “Sue the IRS.” Meckler and his co-plaintiffs seek punitive damages from the IRS for its illegal treatment of conservative organizations. Given the way the IRS has acted, this could be a growth industry.

Meckler needs to add to his suit these seven vote-crazed Dumbocrat Senators paranoid about losing their seats demanding the IRS investigate conservative groups.

WHO KNEW? The IRS (a tax-funded L/E agency) takes its marching orders from Democrats. Other govt agencies were sicced on conservatives---the FBI, ATF, the IRS, and OSHA were sicced on Catherine Englebrecht, who was harassed on numerous occasions, as she valiantly tried to improve the US voting system.

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THIS NEEDS TO GO VIRAL---DEMS STOOP TO CONQUEUR--order IRS to act (to save their seats)
by Alexander Bolton, The Hill, 2/13/14

Senate Democrats facing tough elections this year want the IRS to play a more aggressive role in regulating outside groups expected to spend millions of dollars on their races. In the wake of the IRS targeting scandal, the Democrats are publicly prodding the agency instead of lobbying them directly.

Dems are also careful to say the IRS should treat conservative and liberal groups equally, but they’re concerned about an impending tidal wave of attack ads funded by GOP-allied organizations. Much of the funding for those groups is secret, in contrast to the donations lawmakers collect, which must be reported publicly.

One of the most powerful groups is Americans for Prosperity, funded by the billionaire industrialists Charles and David Koch. It has already spent close to $30 million on ads attacking Democrats this election cycle.

“If they’re claiming the tax relief, the tax benefit to be a nonprofit for social relief or social justice, then that’s what they should be doing,” said Sen. Mark Begich (D), who faces a competitive race in Alaska. “If it’s to give them cover so they can do political activity, that’s abusing the tax code. And either side."

Asked if the IRS should play a more active role policing political advocacy by groups that claim to be focused on social welfare, Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.) responded, “Absolutely. Both on the left and the right,” she said. “As taxpayers, we should not be providing a write-off to groups to do political activity, and that’s exactly what we’re doing.”

Shaheen called the glut of political spending by self-described social welfare groups that qualify under section 501(c) (4) of the tax code “outrageous.” Shaheen is in a good position now but could find herself embroiled in a tight campaign if former Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass) challenges her.

Sen. Mark Pryor (Ark.), the most vulnerable Democratic incumbent, said the IRS has jurisdiction over 501(c)(4) groups, as well as charities, which fall under section 5/01(c)(3) of the tax code and sometimes engage in quasi-political activity.

“That whole 501(c)(3), 501(c)(4) [issue], those are IRS numbers. It is inherently an internal revenue matter,” he said. “There are two things you don’t want in political money, in the fundraising world and expenditure world. You don’t want secret money, and you don’t want unlimited money, and that’s what we have now.” --SNIP--

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THIS NEEDS TO GO VIRAL

<><> Seven lock-stepping US Senators scared of losing their seats ask the IRS to “Investigate” their political opponents,

<><> Rep Elijah Cummings led the Democrat pack in smearing patriot Catherine Englebrecht....

<><> der leader Obama said Tea Parties were a "threat to democracy."

12 posted on 03/26/2014 2:29:19 PM PDT by Liz
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To: NormsRevenge

Fired.


13 posted on 03/26/2014 2:31:49 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: NormsRevenge

Charge them with obstruction of justice...


14 posted on 03/26/2014 2:32:40 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: NormsRevenge
WASHINGTON (AP) — The head of the Internal Revenue Service told House Republicans on Wednesday that it would take years to provide all the documents they have subpoenaed in their probe of how the agency handled tea party groups' applications for tax-exempt status.

The government agencies, Justice, IRS, EPA, Homeland Security, are behaving like they are members of a one party system in this country, as they harass and terrorize citizens targeted by the Democrats. Can this be changed?

If the Republicans ever get back in, I hope that they purge the executive branch of government beyond the first layer of political appointees.

The nice guy Republicans did not do that because they believe that was not polite. Bill Clinton sure purged the FBI of many hard working, competent, apolitical lawyers when they took power.

15 posted on 03/26/2014 2:33:11 PM PDT by olezip (Time obliterates the fictions of opinion and confirms the decisions of nature. ~ Cicero)
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To: NormsRevenge

Try that excuse the next time you are audited.


16 posted on 03/26/2014 2:36:18 PM PDT by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: NormsRevenge

Yup it could take years, at least three of them.


17 posted on 03/26/2014 2:36:21 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: NormsRevenge

If I’m audited can I claim that producing the documents would take years? /sarc


18 posted on 03/26/2014 2:39:16 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: NormsRevenge

Susan Rice’s reward shows just what Obummer values in his staff.


19 posted on 03/26/2014 2:40:07 PM PDT by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: NormsRevenge

Well, they can start with the important ones...


20 posted on 03/26/2014 2:41:44 PM PDT by GOPJ (NASA: N othing A bout S pace A nymore - - FreperClearCase_guy)
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To: Fido969

Imagine how slow it would be if it wasn’t a transparent administration like Obama’s in charge.


21 posted on 03/26/2014 2:47:43 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: GOPJ

Start with releasing the name of the IRS official who leaked the religious group’s donor list to the opposition...


22 posted on 03/26/2014 2:49:07 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: NormsRevenge

He’s lying. All they need is a boolian search of the servers. Take about 5 minutes.


23 posted on 03/26/2014 2:49:46 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: a fool in paradise

THAT would be a great start...


24 posted on 03/26/2014 2:51:58 PM PDT by GOPJ (NASA: N othing A bout S pace A nymore - - FreperClearCase_guy)
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To: NormsRevenge

I already hold them in contempt


25 posted on 03/26/2014 2:53:21 PM PDT by woofie
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To: NormsRevenge

This is beyond ridiculous. I’d start with this POS and fire him and keep going down the chain until I got the documents. I’m sure some low level employee could get them in hours.

CYA anyone? FIRE THEM!


26 posted on 03/26/2014 2:54:30 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I support Joe Carr in the TN GOP Primary against Lamar!)
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To: NormsRevenge
The Democrats and their political appointees are in open mockery of the legal process.

The only solution--and this opens a Pandora's Box--is for a successive administration to investigate and prosecute these lawbreakers.

So much of American tradition has been eroded by this outlaw administration. The damage to the republic is extensive. We need to make certain they know there is NO PLACE TO HIDE and there will be NO PROTECTION if they break the law.

Sauron

27 posted on 03/26/2014 2:55:04 PM PDT by sauron ("Truth is hate to those who hate Truth" --unknown)
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To: NormsRevenge

BTW, Darryl Issa is USELESS! A total TOOL! If Boehner was a true leader (I know, laugh away) he’d remove him and put someone in that would do something.

The GOPe are useful idiots for the left.


28 posted on 03/26/2014 2:55:50 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I support Joe Carr in the TN GOP Primary against Lamar!)
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To: Fido969

“Try that excuse the next time you are audited.”

Exactly!

The IRS gives you a timeline to comply or else the penalty and interest charges start adding up.


29 posted on 03/26/2014 2:58:16 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: NormsRevenge
IRS chief: Producing documents could take years

That is either evidence of monumental incompetence, or refusal to perform the job.
Many Federal Laws compel the maintenance of all agency records in an easily recoverable form.

Either provide the records, or resign and allow new competent public employees to do the job.

End of discussion.

30 posted on 03/26/2014 3:14:13 PM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: a fool in paradise
Charge them with obstruction of justice...

Or invoke violation of RICO Laws.

Any citizen may file those charges, but it would carry much more weight if a member of Congress does it.

What's the definition of "Representative," again?

31 posted on 03/26/2014 3:17:59 PM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: NormsRevenge

You can bet they’ll find your tax documents immediately if they feel like auditing your ass.


32 posted on 03/26/2014 3:20:30 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: NormsRevenge

why should one branch of the federal government have to subpeona information from another branch....makes no sense whatsoever...they are part of the government and everything should be shared between departments....in theory, we are all on the same side.


33 posted on 03/26/2014 3:24:19 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all else)
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To: NormsRevenge
IRS chief: Producing documents could take years

Hey that's a good one. We'll tell that next time the IRS thugs come around to us for documentation.

34 posted on 03/26/2014 3:31:11 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: NormsRevenge

BULLSHIT!!!! Admin Mod forgiveness please...


35 posted on 03/26/2014 3:36:22 PM PDT by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Selective prosecution and stonewalling.

Koskinen can be proud to achieve levels of corruption not generally seen in the United States; traditionally, for this sort of thing, we have to look to Paraguay or the Congo.

It’s a nice foray into multiculturalism.


36 posted on 03/26/2014 3:55:06 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: NormsRevenge

Maybe Koskinen should rot in jail until all of the documents are made available.


37 posted on 03/26/2014 4:26:06 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (We need to fundamentally transform RATs lives for their lies.)
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To: NormsRevenge

A real piece of shit. The House should vote to cut off all executive pay for the IRS leaders until they produce all the subpoenaed documents. Otherwise, let the bastards starve.

What we really need is a public list of all the IRS employees who worked on attacking conservative groups, from the highest to the lowest, and information about them, where they came from re other leftist organizations, etc.

We need to know who the enemy is, from leaders to “Good Germans”. Then fire the bastards and ban them from any federal employment, FOREVER.


38 posted on 03/26/2014 5:17:30 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: NormsRevenge

Issa, quite this “potentially held in contempt”. Give them 24 hours and then issue the contempt citations. Tie their nuts up in court suits and cut off their salaries.

Show them no mercy, now or in the future. Only the first 3 who roll over and give serious testimonies will get some kind of limited immunity. Otherwise, screw them too.


39 posted on 03/26/2014 5:19:15 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: NormsRevenge

Think I’ll use that ploy next time I get audited.


40 posted on 03/26/2014 5:20:53 PM PDT by Rocky (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. George Orwell)
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To: olezip

The government agencies, Justice, IRS, EPA, Homeland Security, are behaving like they are members of a one party system in this country, as they harass and terrorize citizens targeted by the Democrats.

That’s because that’s what they ARE!


41 posted on 03/26/2014 5:22:58 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: NormsRevenge

How about $0 in their next budget...That should give EVERYONE at the IRS *PLENTY* of time to find and submit said documentation...


42 posted on 03/26/2014 6:37:19 PM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: NormsRevenge

I call BS on this unless they’re all shredded or deleted, then they won’t be found. But no way should it take years.


43 posted on 03/26/2014 7:12:16 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: NormsRevenge

wow


44 posted on 03/26/2014 8:54:28 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Chgogal
I am so sick of these federal bureaucrats. They work for you and me. They should all be fired with no pensions,

LOL! IRS head Koskinen already cleaned up at Freddie Mac to the tune of a half a million a year.

What does he care about a piddling .gov pension? He probably VOLUNTEERED to be a spear-catcher for Obama.

45 posted on 03/26/2014 11:34:52 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: NormsRevenge
Koskinen is right about on thing, I would take years to wash, rinse and otherwise sanitize those emails.
46 posted on 03/27/2014 6:27:11 AM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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