Skip to comments.IRS chief: Producing documents could take years
Posted on 03/26/2014 2:20:02 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
WASHINGTON (AP) The head of the Internal Revenue Service told House Republicans on Wednesday that it would take years to provide all the documents they have subpoenaed in their probe of how the agency handled tea party groups' applications for tax-exempt status.
The comments by IRS chief John Koskinen drew a frosty response from Republicans who run the House Government Oversight and Reform Committee, one of several congressional panels investigating the controversy. The panel's chairman, Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., warned him he should comply with the request "or potentially be held in contempt" of Congress, a sometimes threatened but seldom-used authority.
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So far, no evidence has been released showing that officials outside the IRS ordered the focus on conservative groups or were aware of it. Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland, the committee’s top Democrat, said the panel is involved in a “partisan search for nonexistent connections to the White House.”
Ooooohhh....they may be held in contempt...or be sent a strongly worded letter...
Put the WHOLE IRS in search of the documents.
DO SOMETHING WORTHWHILE.
You’ll know it’s over if Obama slips a Medal Of Freedom around Lois’s neck down the road.
Sure. Anything to protect the great marxist in chief.
Put the IRS ‘ho in the hoosegow now!
If Obama ever leaves the White House the smoke from the incinerators will Blacken The Sky
I’ll remember that excuse if they ever audit me. “Gee Mr. IRS clown, I’d love to help out with producing the items you requested but it could take years.” I wonder how far that would get me.
Issa has balls like Porky Pig. His threats mean nothing.
You can bet that, if they were auditing you or me, and we had thousands of pages of documents to review, they would find a way to get through them in very short order.
THE FACTS ARE CLEAR Theres enough available evidence that the IRS conspired to single out taxpayers based on political beliefs.
Issa wont act----but there's more ways than one to nail these SOB's. All of the IRS' misdeeds need to go viral---Twitter, Facebook, youtube networks....and so on.
Candidate obama said tea parties are a threat to democracy.
Valerie Jarrett said they "would not forget" which Americans did not worship Obama.
obama told latinos we will reward our friends and punish our enemies.
Let's not forget other Obama worshippers colluding to target conservatives......like Hollywood.
Conservatives have got to start asking---How Did Obama and His Democrat Minions Get So Much Power Over the IRS?
DID THE IRS JIHAD AGAINST CONSERVATIVES BEGIN WHEN OBAMA TOOKOVER THE US TREASURY? WHAT MISCHIEF WERE OBAMA/RAHM EMANUEL UP TO AT THE US TREASURY (IRS is an agency of the US Treasury)?
THIS MADE ME LAUGH OUT LOUD shortly after quitting his powerful WH job as Obama's COS, Rahm held a presser declaring he "just remembered" he really, Really wanted to be Mayor of Chicago. Then Rahm announced he had magically "raised" $10 million for his campaign in "just a matter of weeks." (waiting for hysterical laughter to die down). Ya gotta wonder how much Wall Street Rahm wired offshore when Obama put him in charge of the entire US Treasury. Read on.
CONNECTING THE DOTS: Obama's stranglehold on Treasury via COS Rahm Emanuel's dual role
THE TARGETING PAPER TRAIL BEGINS: Soon as they occupied the WH, Obama and the Chicago con artists (a) took control of the US Census; (b) Obama placed his COS Rahm Emanuel in control of the US Dept of the Treasury (the IRS).
THE SMOKING GUN---WSJ REPORT--On Jan 20, 2009 Timothy Geithner was appointed Obama's Secy of the Treasury. But within three weeks, the Obama White House tightened its grip on Treasury. Obama put his COS, Rahm Emanuel, in charge of Treasury---Rahm Emanuel's dual role was an unusual move.
When he got to Treasury, WH COS Rahm Emanuel was so involved in the inner workings of the Treasury that the phrase "Rahm wants it" had become an unofficial mantra among subservient govt staffers, prostrate in obeisance, scurrying to accede to Rahm's wishes, according to Treasury government officials. Reported by WSJ / 05/31/09
More here: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124113406528875137.html
Tea Party organizer Mark Meckler's "Citizens for Self-Governance" most recent project is called Sue the IRS. Meckler and his co-plaintiffs seek punitive damages from the IRS for its illegal treatment of conservative organizations. Given the way the IRS has acted, this could be a growth industry.
Meckler needs to add to his suit these seven vote-crazed Dumbocrat Senators paranoid about losing their seats demanding the IRS investigate conservative groups.
WHO KNEW? The IRS (a tax-funded L/E agency) takes its marching orders from Democrats. Other govt agencies were sicced on conservatives---the FBI, ATF, the IRS, and OSHA were sicced on Catherine Englebrecht, who was harassed on numerous occasions, as she valiantly tried to improve the US voting system.
THIS NEEDS TO GO VIRAL---DEMS STOOP TO CONQUEUR--order IRS to act (to save their seats)
by Alexander Bolton, The Hill, 2/13/14
Senate Democrats facing tough elections this year want the IRS to play a more aggressive role in regulating outside groups expected to spend millions of dollars on their races. In the wake of the IRS targeting scandal, the Democrats are publicly prodding the agency instead of lobbying them directly.
Dems are also careful to say the IRS should treat conservative and liberal groups equally, but theyre concerned about an impending tidal wave of attack ads funded by GOP-allied organizations. Much of the funding for those groups is secret, in contrast to the donations lawmakers collect, which must be reported publicly.
One of the most powerful groups is Americans for Prosperity, funded by the billionaire industrialists Charles and David Koch. It has already spent close to $30 million on ads attacking Democrats this election cycle.
If theyre claiming the tax relief, the tax benefit to be a nonprofit for social relief or social justice, then thats what they should be doing, said Sen. Mark Begich (D), who faces a competitive race in Alaska. If its to give them cover so they can do political activity, thats abusing the tax code. And either side."
Asked if the IRS should play a more active role policing political advocacy by groups that claim to be focused on social welfare, Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.) responded, Absolutely. Both on the left and the right, she said. As taxpayers, we should not be providing a write-off to groups to do political activity, and thats exactly what were doing.
Shaheen called the glut of political spending by self-described social welfare groups that qualify under section 501(c) (4) of the tax code outrageous. Shaheen is in a good position now but could find herself embroiled in a tight campaign if former Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass) challenges her.
Sen. Mark Pryor (Ark.), the most vulnerable Democratic incumbent, said the IRS has jurisdiction over 501(c)(4) groups, as well as charities, which fall under section 5/01(c)(3) of the tax code and sometimes engage in quasi-political activity.
That whole 501(c)(3), 501(c)(4) [issue], those are IRS numbers. It is inherently an internal revenue matter, he said. There are two things you dont want in political money, in the fundraising world and expenditure world. You dont want secret money, and you dont want unlimited money, and thats what we have now. --SNIP--
THIS NEEDS TO GO VIRAL
<><> Seven lock-stepping US Senators scared of losing their seats ask the IRS to Investigate their political opponents,
<><> Rep Elijah Cummings led the Democrat pack in smearing patriot Catherine Englebrecht....
<><> der leader Obama said Tea Parties were a "threat to democracy."
Charge them with obstruction of justice...
The government agencies, Justice, IRS, EPA, Homeland Security, are behaving like they are members of a one party system in this country, as they harass and terrorize citizens targeted by the Democrats. Can this be changed?
If the Republicans ever get back in, I hope that they purge the executive branch of government beyond the first layer of political appointees.
The nice guy Republicans did not do that because they believe that was not polite. Bill Clinton sure purged the FBI of many hard working, competent, apolitical lawyers when they took power.
Try that excuse the next time you are audited.
Yup it could take years, at least three of them.
If I’m audited can I claim that producing the documents would take years? /sarc
Susan Rice’s reward shows just what Obummer values in his staff.
Well, they can start with the important ones...
Imagine how slow it would be if it wasn’t a transparent administration like Obama’s in charge.
Start with releasing the name of the IRS official who leaked the religious group’s donor list to the opposition...
He’s lying. All they need is a boolian search of the servers. Take about 5 minutes.
THAT would be a great start...
I already hold them in contempt
This is beyond ridiculous. I’d start with this POS and fire him and keep going down the chain until I got the documents. I’m sure some low level employee could get them in hours.
CYA anyone? FIRE THEM!
The only solution--and this opens a Pandora's Box--is for a successive administration to investigate and prosecute these lawbreakers.
So much of American tradition has been eroded by this outlaw administration. The damage to the republic is extensive. We need to make certain they know there is NO PLACE TO HIDE and there will be NO PROTECTION if they break the law.
BTW, Darryl Issa is USELESS! A total TOOL! If Boehner was a true leader (I know, laugh away) he’d remove him and put someone in that would do something.
The GOPe are useful idiots for the left.
“Try that excuse the next time you are audited.”
The IRS gives you a timeline to comply or else the penalty and interest charges start adding up.
That is either evidence of monumental incompetence, or refusal to perform the job.
Many Federal Laws compel the maintenance of all agency records in an easily recoverable form.
Either provide the records, or resign and allow new competent public employees to do the job.
End of discussion.
Or invoke violation of RICO Laws.
Any citizen may file those charges, but it would carry much more weight if a member of Congress does it.
What's the definition of "Representative," again?
You can bet they’ll find your tax documents immediately if they feel like auditing your ass.
why should one branch of the federal government have to subpeona information from another branch....makes no sense whatsoever...they are part of the government and everything should be shared between departments....in theory, we are all on the same side.
Hey that's a good one. We'll tell that next time the IRS thugs come around to us for documentation.
BULLSHIT!!!! Admin Mod forgiveness please...
Selective prosecution and stonewalling.
Koskinen can be proud to achieve levels of corruption not generally seen in the United States; traditionally, for this sort of thing, we have to look to Paraguay or the Congo.
It’s a nice foray into multiculturalism.
Maybe Koskinen should rot in jail until all of the documents are made available.
A real piece of shit. The House should vote to cut off all executive pay for the IRS leaders until they produce all the subpoenaed documents. Otherwise, let the bastards starve.
What we really need is a public list of all the IRS employees who worked on attacking conservative groups, from the highest to the lowest, and information about them, where they came from re other leftist organizations, etc.
We need to know who the enemy is, from leaders to “Good Germans”. Then fire the bastards and ban them from any federal employment, FOREVER.
Issa, quite this “potentially held in contempt”. Give them 24 hours and then issue the contempt citations. Tie their nuts up in court suits and cut off their salaries.
Show them no mercy, now or in the future. Only the first 3 who roll over and give serious testimonies will get some kind of limited immunity. Otherwise, screw them too.
Think I’ll use that ploy next time I get audited.
The government agencies, Justice, IRS, EPA, Homeland Security, are behaving like they are members of a one party system in this country, as they harass and terrorize citizens targeted by the Democrats.
That’s because that’s what they ARE!
How about $0 in their next budget...That should give EVERYONE at the IRS *PLENTY* of time to find and submit said documentation...
I call BS on this unless they’re all shredded or deleted, then they won’t be found. But no way should it take years.
LOL! IRS head Koskinen already cleaned up at Freddie Mac to the tune of a half a million a year.
What does he care about a piddling .gov pension? He probably VOLUNTEERED to be a spear-catcher for Obama.