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Northwestern players get union vote
ESPN ^ | 3/26/2014 | Brian Bennett

Posted on 03/26/2014 3:21:03 PM PDT by iowamark

In a potentially game-changing moment for college athletics, the Chicago district of the National Labor Relations Board ruled on Wednesday that Northwestern football players qualify as employees of the university and can unionize.

NLRB regional director Peter Sung Ohr cited the players' time commitment to their sport and the fact that their scholarships were tied directly to their performance on the field as reasons for granting them union rights.

Ohr wrote in his ruling that the players "fall squarely within the [National Labor Relations] Act's broad definition of 'employee' when one considers the common law definition of 'employee.'"

Ohr ruled that the players can hold a vote on whether they want to be represented by the College Athletes Players Association, which brought the case to the NLRB along with former Wildcats quarterback Kain Colter and the United Steelworkers union...

Northwestern issued a statement shortly after the ruling saying it would appeal to the full NLRB in Washington, D.C.

"While we respect the NLRB process and the regional director's opinion, we disagree with it," the statement read. "Northwestern believes strongly that our student-athletes are not employees, but students. Unionization and collective bargaining are not the appropriate methods to address the concerns raised by student-athletes."

In a statement, NCAA chief legal officer Donald Remy said: "While not a party to the proceeding, the NCAA is disappointed that the NLRB Region 13 determined the Northwestern football team may vote to be considered university employees. We strongly disagree with the notion that student-athletes are employees."

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A complete gamechanger for college sports, if it stands.
1 posted on 03/26/2014 3:21:04 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark
It'll be ten years before this decision reaches the Supreme Court; an NLRB ruling that creates a whole new class of "employees" never previously considered under The Act is not going to stand as any kind of precedent.
2 posted on 03/26/2014 3:23:31 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: iowamark
I won't participate...we already support college sports with our tickets and donations......the band members work just as hard as do all the real students who have to work place experience to get their degree....

nuts to this idea....

3 posted on 03/26/2014 3:27:37 PM PDT by cherry
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To: iowamark

In a fair world, this would lead to NCAA sanctions.


4 posted on 03/26/2014 3:29:40 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: iowamark

Since athletes are not paid employees, how will they make the union dues? Has this been discussed? Or do unions expect to hold universities and tax payers on the hook for those fees?


5 posted on 03/26/2014 3:29:59 PM PDT by formosa
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To: demshateGod

The “Northwestern Goons” will be their new team name.

Hard foul= pipe to the knee.

I wonder how much tuition will go up now.


6 posted on 03/26/2014 3:36:04 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: iowamark
Agree 100%.

The NCAA and ESPN make BILLIONS in revenue off the talent of these players, but if a player sells a single autograph they are treated like criminals. It is the ATHLETE who will lose his livelihood should he shred his knee or have one too many concussions. Let them share in the profits, or make the NCAA and ESPN broadcast the games ad-free and donate all branded merchandise profits to charity. This hypocrisy is un-American.

7 posted on 03/26/2014 3:38:09 PM PDT by montag813
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To: demshateGod
I think the NCAA is corrupt but I hope they use their clout to crush this stinking idea...

if they gain wages, then out with the scholarships...

and there will need to be contracts and if broken...like missing practices....the contract can be rescinded....

like some of these thugs are actually going to be good employess...

think about it...a coach couldn't even use tough talk anymore....because he'll be talking to workers and workers shouldn't be treated that way....

8 posted on 03/26/2014 3:39:01 PM PDT by cherry
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To: iowamark

Maybe they’ll stop keeping score in order to not hurt someone’s feelings.


9 posted on 03/26/2014 3:41:07 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: iowamark
How about academic scholarships? Financial aid? Do those make the student an employee?
10 posted on 03/26/2014 3:41:51 PM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: demshateGod

NCAA sanctions against whom? The suit was brought by ex-players; the NCAA can’t very well sanction people who aren’t involved in college sports anymore.


11 posted on 03/26/2014 3:44:14 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: iowamark

Wouldn’t the team lose their amature status if unionized? Perhaps they could become a pro team. It’s not as if Northwestern is really any good.

CC


12 posted on 03/26/2014 3:53:19 PM PDT by Captain Compassion
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To: iowamark
Nobody here sees the Left's long-term objective here.

It's to destroy sports, which promotes civic pride, community, state, and individualism, and help facilitate the Left's dystopian Marxist agenda.

This is why they're destroying the NFL with PC and homosexuality, so that blue-collar and suburban whites can succumb to their agenda.

13 posted on 03/26/2014 3:57:23 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (15 years of FReeping! Congratulations EEE!!)
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To: iowamark

How would this effect the ACA and number of employees? LOL


14 posted on 03/26/2014 4:05:52 PM PDT by BillT (If you can not stand behind our military, you might as well stand in front of them!)
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To: iowamark

Chicago, where else? This could be the end of college sports as we know it. What’s next? General population of students unionize?


15 posted on 03/26/2014 4:09:34 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: iowamark

Who’s Kidding Who?Universities are just”Farm Systems”for The Pros!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


16 posted on 03/26/2014 4:10:41 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: iowamark

If college athletes are going to just get paid right out in the open,how about The Olympic Committee Re-Instate Burt Lancaster?


17 posted on 03/26/2014 4:12:27 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: cherry
and there will need to be contracts and if broken...

Make any, and all, payments at the end of four years of school or until the player has graduated. And, if one doesn't fulfill the four year commitment, no payment! (School) should negotiate just as hard!

18 posted on 03/26/2014 4:12:59 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: montag813

All true, cept you missed the part where they get a free education! (Sharing in the profits by way of an education)


19 posted on 03/26/2014 4:14:12 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Baloney, this is just the unions looking for a new source of funds.


20 posted on 03/26/2014 4:17:41 PM PDT by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, and major conference college football and men’s basketball are nothing but giant entertainment conglomerates like Disney. I like watching them, but they as relevant as a Hollywood blockbuster. The only difference is that you hope that the end is not scripted. If someone is making millions of dollars off of my play, I’d want money too.


21 posted on 03/26/2014 4:24:29 PM PDT by Lou Budvis
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To: Lou Budvis

It will be OVER for the NCAA down the road.


22 posted on 03/26/2014 4:41:41 PM PDT by mason-dixon (As Mason said to Dixon, you have to draw the line somewhere.)
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To: iowamark
The NCAA, the conferences and the schools have been playing with fire for a long time now with their merchandising, marketing, and billion dollar broadcasting deals. Once they started to sell jerseys with peoples names on them and video games with players' likenesses the trap was set. Now the former players are demanding a share of revenue they produced.

The schools created this monster. The NLRB and it's cozy union buddies have just thrown open the cage door and let the monster loose.

The NCAA knew EA Sports had real players 'hidden' in college football games

Ed O'Bannon vs. the NCAA: The saga continues

23 posted on 03/26/2014 6:08:39 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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To: Bushbacker1
All true, cept you missed the part where they get a free education! (Sharing in the profits by way of an education)

They get that because of the dollar value the school places on their talent.

24 posted on 03/26/2014 6:25:36 PM PDT by montag813
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To: iowamark
One way to stop this madness would be to join the rest of the world in how sports is organized. The United States should decouple sports and education like the rest of the world. In Canada, you want to play in the NHL you play in Junior Hockey, the CHL leagues, not in college(in Canada that is.) My daughter's college, McGill, has a good hockey team. The players are mostly guys who did not make the pros from Juniors and some who washed out of the AHL or ECHL. They are in college to get an education and hockey is an extracurricular activity. In the UK, you aspire to play for Man U, you do not go to a university to further your soccer career. Instead you join one of the clubs in your teenage years and work to move up in their system to the first team. Let the NFL develop it's own development system independent of the colleges. Now they have it for free. Let the NBA expand the D league to accommodate the influx of more 18 year olds who do not belong in college. MLB can bring back D,C,and B leagues back to the minor leagues, like they had back in the 50’s. When it comes to sports and education being linked, the US is an outlier.
25 posted on 03/26/2014 6:32:11 PM PDT by gusty
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To: montag813

Yep, anything that kills the NCAA cartel is a good thing. The NFL should set up farm teams. There are way more than enough tax-payer funded, empty stadiums in the country.


26 posted on 03/26/2014 7:07:55 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: iowamark
Using the cited rationale, students on academic scholarships can equally be deemed to be "employees" ie, based on the "time spent in their (studies) and the fact that scholarships are tied to "performance in the classroom..."

If this absurdity satnds it will mean the end of college ball altogether at many institutions. There will be a lot more cabbies and drivers of Pepsi trucks available, and a lot fewer young black college students if this takes hold.

27 posted on 03/26/2014 7:59:03 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: demshateGod

Sanctions against whom? The University and NCAA are on the same side.


28 posted on 03/26/2014 8:01:28 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: WriteOn

True. The NCAA is a non profit. How many other non profits are unionized?

They should lose their non profit status if they unionize.


29 posted on 03/27/2014 5:23:06 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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