Skip to comments.“Stand Your Ground” Nation: America used to value the concept of retreat. Now we just shoot.
Posted on 03/26/2014 5:51:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Ever since George Zimmerman gunned down Trayvon Martin in his Sanford, Fla., gated community, its become an article of faith that the rash of lethal shootings in public placesfrom the Florida moviegoer who was killed after a texting and popcorn-throwing incident to Jordan Davis, shot in his car at a Jacksonville, Fla., gas station to last weeks lethal shooting in an Arizona Walmartis attributable to the stand your ground laws enacted over the past decade in 26 states across the country. Aggressive human interaction, post-Trayvon, now follows a painfully familiar pattern: An altercation occurs. Someone says he feared for his life. An unarmed victim (often young, black, and male) is shot and killed. The headlines either explicitly or implicitly invoke stand your ground.
Last week, Kriston Charles Belinte Chee, an unarmed man, got into a fight with Cyle Wayne Quadlin at a Walmart in suburban Arizona. Quadlin opened fire midargument and killed Chee. Officers decided not to charge Quadlin because, they concluded, the killing was in self-defense. According to the police spokesman, Mr. Quadlin was losing the fight and indicated he was in fear for his life. Just a week earlier, a jury in Jacksonville, Fla., found Michael Dunn guilty on four counts of attempted murder but did not convict him on the most serious charge of first-degree murder, in the death of 17-year-old Jordan Davis. Dunn shot and killed Davis, also unarmed, because the music coming from his car was too loud. Dunn claimed he saw something like a gun in the vehicle, and that was apparently enough for some members of the jury to conclude that Dunn hadnt committed first-degree murder.
Given all this, its not unreasonable to argue that, in America, you can be shot and killed, without consequences for the shooter....
(Excerpt) Read more at slate.com ...
Dahlia Lithwick is a Canadian writer and editor who lives in the United States. Lithwick is a contributing editor at Newsweek and senior editor at Slate
First thing I think of is Captain Winters telling Major Nixon, “I don’t like retreating”.
Just for instance. Of course, they were the first at Berchestgaten, after Hitler, that is.
Americans used to value the concept of retreat? What the h*ll kind of stupid headline is this?
“Detroiters have had it. Chief Craig has often said good Americans that are legally in possession of firearms are defending their homes, and they have the right to do that, and we stand behind them in doing so,”
Here’s some practical advice for those who don’t wish to be shot for attacking someone that will stand their ground. Don’t attack people...the more you know.
What the hell America is she talking about? I've never retreated from anything in my life and don't plan on ever doing so!
I don’t enjoy Slate... they’re so dishonest...
Gunned down while you were beating a head against the sidewalk. Yea, right.
As sure as the sun rises, another cookie cutter know-it-all “Journ-O-List”
BTW Babe, Thugvon was not “gunned down” Idiot
Lithwick was born in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada and is a Canadian citizen. She moved to the U.S. to study at Yale University, where she received a B.A. in English in 1990. As a student at Yale she debated on the American Parliamentary Debate Association circuit. In 1990 she and her debate partner at the time Austan Goolsbee were runners up for National Debate Team of the Year.[dubious discuss]
She went on to study law at Stanford University, where she received her J.D. in 1996. She then clerked for Judge Procter Hug on the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. She is Jewish, and keeps a kosher home.
Gawd. Another ‘mayo head’.
Uh, Dahlia, how are you supposed to “retreat” when some thug has you down on the ground and is beating your head on the concrete?
often young, black, and male)
Maybe if they didn’t instigate these encounters, they might become older black males more often...
People, it’s Slate. What do you expect?
She’s Canadian, where does she get “we” in the [idiot] headline.
George Z didn’t “gun down” Martin. He shot him because Martin was repeatedly smashing his head into the concrete & he would have died had he not stopped the drugged out “teen”. Gunned down? WTH reasoning is that?
If she is so concerned about people just getting gunned down, perhaps she should do some research and write a piece on the tens of thousands of times a year SWAT teams, armed with assault rifles and tactical gear, break down the doors of,and invade the homes of innocent citizens without warrants or warrants based on the statement of an *anonymous* caller? Sometimes killing the innocent homeowner.
Or, like most liberal fascists, does she believe that “gunning people down” is the prerogative of despotic governments and militarized jackbooted police?
Perhaps a little research into the flash mobs that roam around beating and sometimes *crippling* innocent bystanders. Maybe she could tell us how they wouldn’t get beat up if they knew how to properly retreat.