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Ukraine Claims 100,000 Russian Troops Near Border
AFP ^ | March 27, 2014

Posted on 03/27/2014 10:29:14 AM PDT by Strategy

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To: CedarDave

Oh that’s funny! Cupcakes!

Yes, unfortunately we are much limited from all the info I’ve seen...and further Ukrain has just 6,000 troops battle ready...years of not training or equipping their military has resulted in them having no military defense to speak of. Yet the Eu and US expect them to battle if it comes to that.

Sickens me Obama insulted them and so did the Eu by sending blankets and rations......a few tanks etc. to fight with.

All the armament from Nato is on the Baltic borders to “protect them” as they are NAto Members..Ukraine is not. I don’t think they’ll rush in...I do think this will go right up to whoever blinks....and that’s pretty alarming....someone will have to yield.


51 posted on 03/27/2014 11:23:50 AM PDT by caww
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To: CedarDave

Oh that’s funny! Cupcakes!

Yes, unfortunately we are much limited from all the info I’ve seen...and further Ukrain has just 6,000 troops battle ready...years of not training or equipping their military has resulted in them having no military defense to speak of. Yet the Eu and US expect them to battle if it comes to that.

Sickens me Obama insulted them and so did the Eu by sending blankets and rations......a few tanks etc. to fight with.

All the armament from Nato is on the Baltic borders to “protect them” as they are NAto Members..Ukraine is not. I don’t think they’ll rush in...I do think this will go right up to whoever blinks....and that’s pretty alarming....someone will have to yield.


52 posted on 03/27/2014 11:23:50 AM PDT by caww
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To: Sacajaweau

Kiev started all this crap with their little coup.
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I know. How dare they try to get the Russian boot off their necks. If only they would act like good little serfs, then kind, benevolent and god fearing Putin wouldn’t have to invade a sovereign country and murder its inhabitants. The nerve of them.


53 posted on 03/27/2014 11:23:52 AM PDT by Agog
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To: Strategy

Time to let the Chinese know that they should feel free to protect their ethnic brethren in Eastern Russia while Vlad is looking the other way. :)


54 posted on 03/27/2014 11:24:44 AM PDT by Daus
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To: caww

Stronger trading blocks do not “poke” the bear. Russia alone with its eleven time zones can market its wares and natural resources to Europe no matter how strong Europe is economically. Putin knows Europe is not a threat militarily unless he has ambitions for rolling into places he shouldn’t.


55 posted on 03/27/2014 11:28:21 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Strategy.


56 posted on 03/27/2014 11:28:33 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alreadyposted/index)
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To: 1rudeboy

Putin’s beef isn’t with Ukraine....it’s with the Eu/US/Nato’s Global Agenda push to gobble up nations on his area of influence. They went too far by going after Ukraine. Prior Ukraine being “neutral” was not an issues for Putin....simply was a buffer zone for him and they both traded and did business etc.

I’m livid with the EU and US they knew this would more than push Putin’s buttons....and as always they make a mess when they go too far and don’t know enough to back off.


57 posted on 03/27/2014 11:29:38 AM PDT by caww
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To: SunkenCiv; Strategy; Fennie

SunkenCiv, am still thinking Strategy and Fennie are related. They both love Breaking News.


58 posted on 03/27/2014 11:30:48 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals

well, our government is supplying russia with free military equipment (MILES). russia shouldn’t even receive a pop tart shaped gun from US.


59 posted on 03/27/2014 11:33:25 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: caww

Two opposing egos never get along very well. Tensions escalate needlessly. It could have been seen the other way too; Russia weighing on Kiev too much from the NATO point of view.

It had not been long enough since the USSR collapsed for the Bear’s ego wounds to be salved.

In the long run, God punishes all stubborn wickedness, and sin produces no profit.


60 posted on 03/27/2014 11:34:22 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

Full Agreement Rain_Drop


61 posted on 03/27/2014 11:34:52 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals

I broke some news earlier, still have to sweep it up.


62 posted on 03/27/2014 11:36:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alreadyposted/index)
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The truth we might be running from is so small ... but it is as big as the coming truth of the coming day. Music.


63 posted on 03/27/2014 11:36:14 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Strategy

That’s a lot of weakness on the Ukrainian border.


64 posted on 03/27/2014 11:38:26 AM PDT by mykroar (We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again. - Nathanael Greene)
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To: SunkenCiv

Will take a look Civ.


65 posted on 03/27/2014 11:38:29 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: caww

Rather humorous that you think Putin is permitted an “area of influence,” but no one else.


66 posted on 03/27/2014 11:40:36 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Agog

Ukraine and Russia didn’t have beefs between them....they’ve been interconnected for years, doing business etc. There was no Russian boot on their necks that they didn’t willingly put there when they voted. They should have waited til the next election and booted his butt out rather than the violent coup they orchestrated.

The beef is when Eu/Nato/US went after Ukraine to merge with the EU and Nato on Putins’ border and involving themselves in his area of influence and the politics of Ukraine. They knew this would create issues with Russia as did the nations and oligarks who funded it all.

And guess what....Ukraine still will not be admitted to the EU as has been already determined...and here they are left basically on their own to fight against Russia.

The EU and US will not fight this....so someones going to have to yield...again!


67 posted on 03/27/2014 11:41:31 AM PDT by caww
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To: Agog

Ukraine and Russia didn’t have beefs between them....they’ve been interconnected for years, doing business etc. There was no Russian boot on their necks that they didn’t willingly put there when they voted. They should have waited til the next election and booted his butt out rather than the violent coup they orchestrated.

The beef is when Eu/Nato/US went after Ukraine to merge with the EU and Nato on Putins’ border and involving themselves in his area of influence and the politics of Ukraine. They knew this would create issues with Russia as did the nations and oligarks who funded it all.

And guess what....Ukraine still will not be admitted to the EU as has been already determined...and here they are left basically on their own to fight against Russia.

The EU and US will not fight this....so someones going to have to yield...again!


68 posted on 03/27/2014 11:41:32 AM PDT by caww
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To: Strategy
Seeing how the Ukrainians have reported that they only have around 6,000 troops available to be deployed for combat, whether the Russians have 20,000 or 100,000 isn't going to matter much. They'll be able to achieve high odds pretty much at the breakthrough points of their choosing. Ukraine may be able to get up to around 40,000 after a few weeks, but a lot would have to go right for them in terms of mobilization, getting them equipped, transported, etc. My guess is that many won't show up for the mobilization effort or fade away once it looks like the Russians are going to win.
69 posted on 03/27/2014 11:41:40 AM PDT by aegiscg47
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To: 1rudeboy

I won’t argue with you rudeboy....I have no side in this affair. I simply see it as I do as others see it their way.

What I have an issue with is all those who somehow think the EU and US are innocent bystanders....when in fact they were much to do with these happenings knowing full well it would more than rile Putin.......Ukraine has been his area of influence that’s just the fact....the Eu and US wanted it otherwise....and those facts are coming out more and more as this moves along.


70 posted on 03/27/2014 11:45:22 AM PDT by caww
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To: aegiscg47

Very sad situation IMO.....it didn’t need to come to this. There simply are no good guys on any side of this happening.


71 posted on 03/27/2014 11:48:03 AM PDT by caww
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To: aegiscg47

Very sad situation IMO.....it didn’t need to come to this. There simply are no good guys on any side of this happening.


72 posted on 03/27/2014 11:48:03 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww
knowing full well it would more than rile Putin

That is correct Caww. Wonder why these obama minions want to rile putin? Unless ... the unthinkable ....

73 posted on 03/27/2014 11:48:16 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

.....”Two opposing egos never get along very well”....

Especially when one side is pushing for Global Integration and the other wants Global Dominance....both will the same desired end...power and control.


74 posted on 03/27/2014 11:51:12 AM PDT by caww
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To: HiTech RedNeck

.....”Two opposing egos never get along very well”....

Especially when one side is pushing for Global Integration and the other wants Global Dominance....both will the same desired end...power and control.


75 posted on 03/27/2014 11:51:12 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

In principle, faith in God can bridge the gap. Russia is at least nominally Orthodox, and that’s a challenge since they are aloof from Catholics and Protestants who in comparison are bosom buddies.


76 posted on 03/27/2014 11:53:16 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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Guess Music is her name, after all.


77 posted on 03/27/2014 11:53:20 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Strategy

(Reuters) - U.S. and European security agencies estimate Russia has deployed military and militia units totaling more than 30,000 people along its border with eastern Ukraine, according to U.S. and European sources familiar with official reporting.

The current estimates represent what officials on both sides of the Atlantic describe as a continuing influx of Russian forces along the Ukraine frontier, the sources said.

The 30,000 figure represents a significant increase from a figure of 20,000 Russian troops along the border that was widely reported in U.S. and European media last week.

But U.S. and European security sources noted that these estimates are imprecise. Some estimates put current troop levels as high as 35,000 while others still suggest a level of 25,000, the sources said.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/26/us-ukraine-crisis-usa-idUSBREA2P22120140326?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_term=%2AMorning%20Brief&utm_campaign=MB.03.27.2014


78 posted on 03/27/2014 11:53:46 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: no-to-illegals

It’s as always been....two opposing forces seeking dominion. Neither of which have the good of the world nor it’s people in mind.


79 posted on 03/27/2014 11:53:58 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Agreement Caww.


80 posted on 03/27/2014 11:54:33 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: caww

An integration view is more civilized.


81 posted on 03/27/2014 11:54:46 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

and off this wind we see the wind ... or worse.


82 posted on 03/27/2014 11:56:24 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: caww

There was never a question of Ukraine merging/joining with the EU. What was on the table was a trade agreement. Russia, as well as its cheerleaders, created a false choice by demanding that EU membership was on the table. The real issue was the fact that Yanukovich, from the time he came to power until he abandoned his country, had been steadily eroding Ukraine’s freedoms. In the great communist tradition, he was working to make sure that his election would be the last democratic election in Ukraine.

All this talk of EU, Soros, Nazis, Muslims, Neocons, socialists, rightwing extremists, fascists or whatever is nonsense stirred up by Putin and repeated by his dishonest and/or credulous followers.

Russia is not threatened in any way by Ukraine, Georgia, Poland, Latvia, Estonia, or Lithuania, yet we are supposed to believe that Putin has a legitimate right to violate the sovereignty of other countries because his tender sensibilities may be violated. Absurd.


83 posted on 03/27/2014 11:56:58 AM PDT by Agog
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To: Strategy

100,000 would be too many troops vehicles, etc. to hide, especially in an electronic society. The footprint of forces that large would be HUGE.

The Rueters figure of 25,000-35,000 is likely more accurate, if even that. There is anecdotal evidence of some battalion, and a couple of Brigade-sized moves, but not much else.

Any movement, if it comes, won’t be toward Kiev, but Donetsk (Russian sympathetic), toward Meltipol.


84 posted on 03/27/2014 11:57:42 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Agog
Absurd.

I wish ... Lord how I wish.

85 posted on 03/27/2014 11:58:02 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Well....principals only come into play between these two when it’s advantageous to sound principled to the audiance. I think they both know the charade they pull off between them all to well.

I the end there are two pushes by Russia...the first they are pretty much wiped out but recover...the final push will come against the nations....either way Russia’s days are simply numbered when all is said and done.

I don’t think Putin has much faith if any....I do believe he has hawks behind him just as the US does. Not that he isn’t thuggish, because he is, I do think that Bush mad him feel repected as a man and as a leader and why they got along.

But Putin and Obama are about as far apart as any could be...ego maniacs with each other always trying to get the upper hand.


86 posted on 03/27/2014 12:01:47 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

There is a concert out there dedicate to America’s Good FRiend ... Billy Graham.


87 posted on 03/27/2014 12:02:06 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: grania
Why, that's just awful. A country protecting its southern border and prepared to act if need be to protect its countrymen on both sides of the border.

Once a country's military crosses said border, that is an act of war.
88 posted on 03/27/2014 12:04:19 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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As I think of 1962 (cuban missile crisis) I realize we have all been here before.


89 posted on 03/27/2014 12:08:22 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Agog

Look even Putin didn’t like Yanukovich nor the way he was governing Ukraine....that’s just an established fact. At best he tolerated him.

Ynaukovich choice for “euroasia” over “the EU” proposal was there were no strings on Ukraine’s governing going with Russia as well as other considerations. Even after Yanukovich agreed to the Maidens terms, including early elections, they refused and tore into the Government building as a coup.

The whole thing broke open .....with both sides using thugs...which is also an established fact.

I understand why Putin zoomed in on Crimea......and pushed for the referendum to happen quickly....we would have done the same thing and have in the past.

This is going to end up with Ukraine being neutral once again....doing business with Eu and Russia....but there will be no entry into the EU economically nor Nato any time soon at all. The best they can get they got...Economical Agreement with the EU......and least we forgot the down payment for their gold being shipped out to the USA for any funding that comes into their nation.


90 posted on 03/27/2014 12:13:54 PM PDT by caww
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Just a song before I go ... traveling twice the speed of sound, it easy to get burned but I still get through security to fly the friendly? skies.


91 posted on 03/27/2014 12:14:13 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: caww

Sorry ..I meant “Political Agreement with EU


92 posted on 03/27/2014 12:15:26 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Please note ... We will not get through security to do it the same as before ... never happens.


93 posted on 03/27/2014 12:16:02 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals

LOL...later then...


94 posted on 03/27/2014 12:16:06 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
Guinevere has Green Eyes.
95 posted on 03/27/2014 12:17:10 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Agog

Agreed and well said.


96 posted on 03/27/2014 12:17:30 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: paterfamilias

Should actually be:

“REGIONAL POWER” RUSSIA (OBAMA IS RIGHT AND ROMNEY WAS WRONG) MASSES 100,000 TROOPS ON UKRAINIAN BORDER.


97 posted on 03/27/2014 12:19:16 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Sacajaweau

“There was a day when men stood when a woman came to the table and actually helped seat her.”

The women in that photo would destroy any man who pulled the chair out for them. I once politely opened a door for a feminist. The glare she gave me could kill.

I loved it.


98 posted on 03/27/2014 12:20:04 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: grania

That’s the thing I don’t get.

If we needed to invade Mexico, or even to break up Mexico to promote our national interest I’d be all for it, and if it got the Russians upset, I’d say, basically, T.S.

What’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. We have absoloutely zero interests in Ukraine or Belarus that could be a cause of war.


99 posted on 03/27/2014 12:20:37 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. H)
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chickens cough ... 5’ tall and she is free. Going back to what was once said for she’s free.


100 posted on 03/27/2014 12:23:43 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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