Skip to comments.The Secret Service has a drinking problem
Posted on 03/27/2014 10:36:46 PM PDT by chessplayer
One of the many pearls of wisdom that alcoholism recovery programs impart can be applied to the guys who caused the U.S. Secret Service's latest imbroglio. It's not that every time an agent drinks on the road, he has a problem. It's that, whenever there's an incident, it's usually because he's been drinking.
The Secret Service has a drinking problem. It's much worse than any other cultural deficit the elite agency has. It's more widespread than sexism, certainly, and the other isms that have been attached to the agency since the prostitution scandal in Cartagena, Colombia. It's something that every journalist who covers the White House kind of knows, intuitively, if they've ever traveled with the president. Pick your favorite White House correspondent and ask him or her whether agents on President George W. Bush's detail created problems at the Wild West saloon in Waco. One former White House scribe told me that although reporters regularly witnessed agents drinking heavily BEFORE shifts, "we just assumed they could control themselves. After all, they were the ones who were the most responsible of all of us."
But often, agents drinking with each other don't have the foresight, or the ability, frankly, to tell their colleagues to stop drinking without losing face. In the Netherlands, not only was a member of the Counter-Assault Team drunk, he was falling-down drunk. He was sleeping on the floor of a hallway drunk. And several of his team members were drunk, too.
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They drank like fish back when I worked with them in 1988-89.
Why do they do this?
Supposedly Lincoln's bodyguard was not at his post during the assassination. He was at a saloon.
And this was prior to the Secret Service even being created.
Really pathetic that these guys have such a responsibility and choose to act like frat boys.
I've heard the term, "once the wheels go up, the rings come off".
Referring to Air Force One.
I've read that Howard Hughes hired Mormons to be his bodyguards because they didn't drink, and would be clear-headed at all times.
They also seem to have a problem with following rules and not acting stupidly.
No surprise. The good ones moved on or moved out, leaving Obama with the dregs and goons.
You would be drunk out of your skull too if you had to protect BHO 24/7.
Mostly because they have no life and have been divorced more than once already. I sure wouldn’t do that job.
Okay, so let me ask you fellow FReepers.
If you had to guard this ass-hat, wouldn’t you be drunk?
Of course I jest about it. This isn’t right. I just find it rather humorous that with all the lowered standards Obama thinks are great, this lowered standard seem to bother the media.
All the lowered standards should bother people.
“Howard Hughes hired Mormons to be his bodyguards because they didn’t drink, and would be clear-headed at all times.”
This is something that makes me understand why Howard Hughes ended up as wealthy as he did. He had the sense to take cultural considerations into hiring who he wanted. He knew the Mormon laws and used it to his advantage.
Would that we would do the same.
Not just bodyguards. Nurses, valets, cooks, butlers, maids, whatever. He only hired LDS for his personal staff.
Mostly because they have no life and have been divorced more than once already. I sure wouldnt do that job.
I sure wouldn’t want to have to depend on them to protect me.
I would need a drink too, maybe a lot of drinks if I knew my job was to instantly sacrafice my life, say adios to my wife and kids for what? For this here President? Hmmm . The secret service man is not provided the indulgence or the luxury of cherry picking which professional vows to honor.
Charles Napier comes into Melvin Dumar's gas station and buys a pack of cigarettes, and leaves a copy of Howard Hughes' will.
As Napier leaves, you see he's thrown the cigarettes out the window of his car.
I never "got" that scene until I found out about Hughes and Mormons.
No drinking, and no smoking.
Wonder how many 1980 audience members picked up on that detail.
I sure didn't.
In a way its kinda sad. But, on the other hand, these are men with responsibility...so I say grow up and man up.
I guess if I had to protect the 2 lowlifes in the White House, I’d be drunk all the time too
“No surprise. The good ones moved on or moved out, leaving Obama with the dregs and goons.”
I believe we have a winner.
I think I’d quit!
Being that it’s Obama, I’d drink too ... LOL ...
If I had to be around Obama, Biden, et al I’m sure I’d develop a drinking problem, too.
If my job was to protect a cheap imitation of a rodeo clown, I’d get drunk too.
If you can’t do the job you’re sworn to do, then yes, move on...before something bad happens.
One bourbon, one scotch & one beer, UNTIL they feel good about themselves.
There ya go...
If I thought about getting killed to protect Zero I’d be drinking heavy too.
I’d drink heavily too if my job was to protect Odumbo. Can you imagine taking a bullet for that worthless ass?
They are “Broken Toys”— Its a wonder they can do their jobs.
I still can’t believe Barry hasn’t surrounded himself with Nation of Islam protection from Farrakhans posse. Are there no patriots in the current group that might cause Barry to be fearful of an accident?
“Why do they do this?”
In any large organization the followers take on the characteristics of the leader. If the leader is crazy, the organization beneath him will act crazy. If the leader is a philanderer the men under him will be also. At a company where I worked the president took up cigars. Within days every top report and some of their reports were smoking the same cigars. When the top guy stopped the cigars disappeared as if a switch had been flipped. So, if the Secret Service is drinking heavily look at the leadership first.
The only assassination protection BHO has, and needs, is Joe Biden.
The Secret Service need not worry too much.
They should ditch the alcohol and just smoke dope and snort cocaine like president Obama - aka “The Big Choomer”.
With apologies to W.C. Fields:
I am indebted to Obama for one thing and one thing only, and, that is, he has driven me to drink.
Drunken SS agents! Who gives a rat’s rear end?
If I was being paid to give my life for this “president”...I’d take up serious drinking myself.
Why do they do this?
Drinking <-—————> Meaninglessness
President Bill Clinton cheated on his wife and on his country. He lied under oath. The Secret Service is held to a higher standard than we hold our President to. If you are expected to give your life to protect someone, you want that someone to be worthy of that kind of sacrifice. If he isn’t, that’s going to cause you some problems. These guys are around Obama a lot. Let’s say, for the sake of argument, that they see on a daily basis that Obama is a cowardly dumbass who is not an American. They have to deal with that as Americans and as bodyguards.
I saw a group of five or six of them getting lit at a Pekin, Illinois festival in ‘88, when Vice President George HW Bush was in town to give a stump speech. There was a keg of beer set up in a parking lot near the Tazewell County courthouse, and these guys were on it like flies on a turd.
It’s funny. At night I’d guard AF2 and their motorpool, helicopters and all the rest, dispatching vehicles to them. During the day, I was the bodyguard, driver and aide for General Al Haig, who was also running for the nomination.
Go to Hillbuzz and read more than you’ll ever want to know about Mr. Obama’s antics when he was in Chicago.
Bingo, good answer. And this is epidemic all throughout out society along with prescription drugs
Why did the name “Clind Eastwood” pop into my head? /rhetorical
Why did the name “Clint Eastwood” pop into my head? /rhetorical
...Now all they need is a small village with a ‘fishing’ problem.