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The Secret Service has a drinking problem
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Posted on 03/27/2014 10:36:46 PM PDT by chessplayer

One of the many pearls of wisdom that alcoholism recovery programs impart can be applied to the guys who caused the U.S. Secret Service's latest imbroglio. It's not that every time an agent drinks on the road, he has a problem. It's that, whenever there's an incident, it's usually because he's been drinking.

The Secret Service has a drinking problem. It's much worse than any other cultural deficit the elite agency has. It's more widespread than sexism, certainly, and the other isms that have been attached to the agency since the prostitution scandal in Cartagena, Colombia. It's something that every journalist who covers the White House kind of knows, intuitively, if they've ever traveled with the president. Pick your favorite White House correspondent and ask him or her whether agents on President George W. Bush's detail created problems at the Wild West saloon in Waco. One former White House scribe told me that although reporters regularly witnessed agents drinking heavily BEFORE shifts, "we just assumed they could control themselves. After all, they were the ones who were the most responsible of all of us."

But often, agents drinking with each other don't have the foresight, or the ability, frankly, to tell their colleagues to stop drinking without losing face. In the Netherlands, not only was a member of the Counter-Assault Team drunk, he was falling-down drunk. He was sleeping on the floor of a hallway drunk. And several of his team members were drunk, too.

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Bombed before they even go on duty. No way in hell they would be capable of protecting anyone.
1 posted on 03/27/2014 10:36:46 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

They drank like fish back when I worked with them in 1988-89.


2 posted on 03/27/2014 10:41:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: chessplayer

3 posted on 03/27/2014 10:42:56 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why do they do this?


4 posted on 03/27/2014 10:44:05 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (waiting for my Magic 8 ball to give me an answer)
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To: chessplayer
This goes back to the 1800s.

Supposedly Lincoln's bodyguard was not at his post during the assassination. He was at a saloon.

And this was prior to the Secret Service even being created.

Really pathetic that these guys have such a responsibility and choose to act like frat boys.

I've heard the term, "once the wheels go up, the rings come off".

Referring to Air Force One.

I've read that Howard Hughes hired Mormons to be his bodyguards because they didn't drink, and would be clear-headed at all times.

5 posted on 03/27/2014 10:44:59 PM PDT by boop (I just wanted a President. But I got a rock.)
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To: chessplayer

They also seem to have a problem with following rules and not acting stupidly.


6 posted on 03/27/2014 10:45:08 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: chessplayer

No surprise. The good ones moved on or moved out, leaving Obama with the dregs and goons.


7 posted on 03/27/2014 10:45:09 PM PDT by Octar
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To: chessplayer

You would be drunk out of your skull too if you had to protect BHO 24/7.


8 posted on 03/27/2014 10:46:53 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Conservative4Ever

Mostly because they have no life and have been divorced more than once already. I sure wouldn’t do that job.


9 posted on 03/27/2014 10:47:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: chessplayer

Okay, so let me ask you fellow FReepers.

If you had to guard this ass-hat, wouldn’t you be drunk?

Of course I jest about it. This isn’t right. I just find it rather humorous that with all the lowered standards Obama thinks are great, this lowered standard seem to bother the media.

All the lowered standards should bother people.


10 posted on 03/27/2014 10:48:47 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: boop

“Howard Hughes hired Mormons to be his bodyguards because they didn’t drink, and would be clear-headed at all times.”

This is something that makes me understand why Howard Hughes ended up as wealthy as he did. He had the sense to take cultural considerations into hiring who he wanted. He knew the Mormon laws and used it to his advantage.

Would that we would do the same.


11 posted on 03/27/2014 10:48:57 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: boop

Not just bodyguards. Nurses, valets, cooks, butlers, maids, whatever. He only hired LDS for his personal staff.


12 posted on 03/27/2014 10:49:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mostly because they have no life and have been divorced more than once already. I sure wouldn’t do that job.


I sure wouldn’t want to have to depend on them to protect me.


13 posted on 03/27/2014 10:51:22 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

I would need a drink too, maybe a lot of drinks if I knew my job was to instantly sacrafice my life, say adios to my wife and kids for what? For this here President? Hmmm . The secret service man is not provided the indulgence or the luxury of cherry picking which professional vows to honor.


14 posted on 03/27/2014 10:51:45 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I don't know if you ever saw the movie Melvin and Howard (1980).

Charles Napier comes into Melvin Dumar's gas station and buys a pack of cigarettes, and leaves a copy of Howard Hughes' will.

As Napier leaves, you see he's thrown the cigarettes out the window of his car.

I never "got" that scene until I found out about Hughes and Mormons.

No drinking, and no smoking.

Wonder how many 1980 audience members picked up on that detail.

I sure didn't.

15 posted on 03/27/2014 10:56:24 PM PDT by boop (I just wanted a President. But I got a rock.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In a way its kinda sad. But, on the other hand, these are men with responsibility...so I say grow up and man up.


16 posted on 03/27/2014 11:03:25 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (waiting for my Magic 8 ball to give me an answer)
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To: chessplayer

I guess if I had to protect the 2 lowlifes in the White House, I’d be drunk all the time too


17 posted on 03/27/2014 11:05:00 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Octar

“No surprise. The good ones moved on or moved out, leaving Obama with the dregs and goons.”

I believe we have a winner.


18 posted on 03/27/2014 11:13:52 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: chessplayer
If you had to protect someone who hates our country, treats our military like it's got a deadly disease, claims our country is not a Christian nation, leaves an ambassador and three brave men to die, doesn't follow and is attempting to destroy the Constitution, is in the process of destroying the best medical system in the world, gives his raghead brothers military equipment, turns his back on Israel and other countries, I think I would drink heavily to keep sane.
19 posted on 03/27/2014 11:14:59 PM PDT by Nitehawk0325 (Liberal democrats have the ability to screw us over a number of times for the same thing.)
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To: dfwgator


20 posted on 03/27/2014 11:19:58 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Nitehawk0325

I think I’d quit!


21 posted on 03/27/2014 11:20:39 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: chessplayer

Being that it’s Obama, I’d drink too ... LOL ...


22 posted on 03/27/2014 11:23:05 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: chessplayer

If I had to be around Obama, Biden, et al I’m sure I’d develop a drinking problem, too.


23 posted on 03/27/2014 11:23:24 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: chessplayer
The Piano Has Been Drinking (Not Me)
24 posted on 03/27/2014 11:49:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Protecting 'Her Thighness', they had to blend in so they would not be spotted and could do their job!



25 posted on 03/28/2014 12:09:30 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian ( I once was blind, but now I see...)
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To: chessplayer

If my job was to protect a cheap imitation of a rodeo clown, I’d get drunk too.


26 posted on 03/28/2014 12:26:54 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: chessplayer
The Secret Service shows up in the news WAY too often.

Leadership problem?

27 posted on 03/28/2014 12:40:24 AM PDT by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: chessplayer
They do not have a drinking problem.
They have a problem with who they have to protect.
When they get a little free time they want One Bourbon, One Scotch and one beer, so they can feel good about themselves.
28 posted on 03/28/2014 1:16:28 AM PDT by DeaconRed (After 5 Yrs of ZERO I need one bourbon, one scotch and One beer. Me and George Thorogood.and the SS)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

If you can’t do the job you’re sworn to do, then yes, move on...before something bad happens.


29 posted on 03/28/2014 1:18:02 AM PDT by 22202NOVA (I stand with Ukraine...warts and all.)
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To: DeaconRed

One bourbon, one scotch & one beer, UNTIL they feel good about themselves.

There ya go...


30 posted on 03/28/2014 1:30:39 AM PDT by BigIsleGal (Wake Me Up When the Stupid Wears Off)
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To: chessplayer

If I thought about getting killed to protect Zero I’d be drinking heavy too.


31 posted on 03/28/2014 2:04:29 AM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: chessplayer

I’d drink heavily too if my job was to protect Odumbo. Can you imagine taking a bullet for that worthless ass?


32 posted on 03/28/2014 3:35:32 AM PDT by KevinB (Barack Hussein Obama: Proof-positive that affirmative action does not work.)
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To: fatnotlazy

They are “Broken Toys”— Its a wonder they can do their jobs.


33 posted on 03/28/2014 3:41:10 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: chessplayer

I still can’t believe Barry hasn’t surrounded himself with Nation of Islam protection from Farrakhans posse. Are there no patriots in the current group that might cause Barry to be fearful of an accident?


34 posted on 03/28/2014 3:46:16 AM PDT by Old Yeller (In Latin, the word sinister means left. Which is appropriate for left-wingers.)
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To: Conservative4Ever

“Why do they do this?”

In any large organization the followers take on the characteristics of the leader. If the leader is crazy, the organization beneath him will act crazy. If the leader is a philanderer the men under him will be also. At a company where I worked the president took up cigars. Within days every top report and some of their reports were smoking the same cigars. When the top guy stopped the cigars disappeared as if a switch had been flipped. So, if the Secret Service is drinking heavily look at the leadership first.


35 posted on 03/28/2014 4:09:59 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: reg45

The only assassination protection BHO has, and needs, is Joe Biden.

The Secret Service need not worry too much.


36 posted on 03/28/2014 4:15:06 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: chessplayer

They should ditch the alcohol and just smoke dope and snort cocaine like president Obama - aka “The Big Choomer”.


37 posted on 03/28/2014 4:33:32 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The future ain't what it use to be -- Yogi Berra)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

With apologies to W.C. Fields:
I am indebted to Obama for one thing and one thing only, and, that is, he has driven me to drink.


38 posted on 03/28/2014 5:05:30 AM PDT by NY Cajun
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To: chessplayer

Drunken SS agents! Who gives a rat’s rear end?


39 posted on 03/28/2014 5:14:50 AM PDT by kenmcg
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To: chessplayer

If I was being paid to give my life for this “president”...I’d take up serious drinking myself.


40 posted on 03/28/2014 5:34:46 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Conservative4Ever

Why do they do this?

Drinking <-—————> Meaninglessness


41 posted on 03/28/2014 7:13:48 AM PDT by lurk
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To: chessplayer

President Bill Clinton cheated on his wife and on his country. He lied under oath. The Secret Service is held to a higher standard than we hold our President to. If you are expected to give your life to protect someone, you want that someone to be worthy of that kind of sacrifice. If he isn’t, that’s going to cause you some problems. These guys are around Obama a lot. Let’s say, for the sake of argument, that they see on a daily basis that Obama is a cowardly dumbass who is not an American. They have to deal with that as Americans and as bodyguards.


42 posted on 03/28/2014 7:21:35 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 (R"A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I saw a group of five or six of them getting lit at a Pekin, Illinois festival in ‘88, when Vice President George HW Bush was in town to give a stump speech. There was a keg of beer set up in a parking lot near the Tazewell County courthouse, and these guys were on it like flies on a turd.


43 posted on 03/28/2014 7:36:46 AM PDT by Basil Duke
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To: Basil Duke

It’s funny. At night I’d guard AF2 and their motorpool, helicopters and all the rest, dispatching vehicles to them. During the day, I was the bodyguard, driver and aide for General Al Haig, who was also running for the nomination.


44 posted on 03/28/2014 11:25:43 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: blueunicorn6; chessplayer

Go to Hillbuzz and read more than you’ll ever want to know about Mr. Obama’s antics when he was in Chicago.


45 posted on 03/28/2014 11:27:13 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Octar

Bingo, good answer. And this is epidemic all throughout out society along with prescription drugs


46 posted on 03/28/2014 11:29:41 AM PDT by winodog
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To: chessplayer

Why did the name “Clind Eastwood” pop into my head? /rhetorical


47 posted on 03/28/2014 11:44:44 AM PDT by Peet (The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal. - Aristotle)
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To: chessplayer

Why did the name “Clint Eastwood” pop into my head? /rhetorical


48 posted on 03/28/2014 11:45:04 AM PDT by Peet (The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal. - Aristotle)
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To: chessplayer

...Now all they need is a small village with a ‘fishing’ problem.


49 posted on 03/28/2014 12:02:25 PM PDT by BlueDragon (You can observe a lot just by watching. Yogi Berra)
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