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Time to scrap the mortgage interest deduction: Simplify the Tax Code and Lower Tax Rates for All
Washington Examiner ^ | 03/27/2014 | Philip Klein

Posted on 03/28/2014 7:03:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

In the coming weeks, Americans will spend an average of 13 hours and $210 to prepare their federal taxes. Beyond the compliance burden the federal tax code imposes, it also distorts economic activity and discriminates against some taxpayers in favor of others. But one of its most egregiously unfair provisions is also among its most popular - the mortgage interest deduction.

In theory, the mortgage interest deduction is supposed to encourage home ownership, a questionable goal for government to begin with. The purpose of taxes is to raise money to finance government services, not to manipulate human behavior or economic activity.

When lawmakers tell taxpayers that they can keep more of their money – but only if they spend that money the way politicians want – it’s just as much an exertion of government power as a spending program.

Allowing individuals to deduct mortgage interest payments drives up taxes on other Americans given the need to recoup the lost revenue, or, alternatively, adds to the deficit. The mortgage interest deduction itself drains $100 billion annually from the U.S. Treasury. When other tax policies meant to encourage home ownership are added - including the deductibility of state and local property taxes and the exemption of capital gains taxes from selling a home - that number rises to $175 billion.

But even if one were to accept that boosting home ownership is a worthy goal for government, the interest deduction and accompanying tax benefits for homeowners should be seen as a miserable failure. That's the conclusion of economists Andrew Hanson, Ike Brannon, and Zackary Hawley in a study prepared for the R Street Institute, a right-of-center think tank, and published in National Affairs.

The authors took a detailed look at the distribution of existing tax benefits for home ownership and found that the benefits do more to help wealthier Americans purchase larger homes than they do to encourage lower-income Americans who otherwise would be renting to purchase homes in the first place.

The study found that in Atlanta, Denver, Detroit, Minneapolis, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Seattle and Washington, D.C., 80 percent of taxpayers earning more than $100,000 claimed the deduction, compared with just 25 percent of those earning less.

In monetary terms, the deduction is also significantly more valuable for higher-income households.

The deduction applies to mortgage debt of up to $1 million and debt from second homes can count toward that amount. Furthermore, because high-income earners are taxed at a higher rate, each dollar of earnings they get to deduct from their taxes is worth more.

A family with a household income of $500,000 with $1 million in mortgage debt being financed at 4 percent would generate $16,000 per year in tax savings, according to the authors’ calculations. In contrast, a household earning near the national median income of $51,000 with a home worth $221,000 (the median price), would receive tax savings of one-tenth that amount.

There are several leading objections to scrapping the mortgage interest deduction. One is that it would drive down home prices. Another is that American homeowners already purchased homes and did tax planning on the assumption that the tax benefit would be in place.

As to the first argument, while it’s true that limiting or eliminating the deduction would reduce the artificially inflated value of homes, that would be true of homes everywhere. That means homes would be cheaper for people shopping for new homes, as well as those hoping to sell their current homes and purchase new ones.

Also, proposals to reform the mortgage interest deduction can be designed to phase in the changes over time, so that homeowners can gradually adjust.

Recently, House Ways and Means Chairman Rep. David Camp, R-Mich., offered a comprehensive tax reform proposal that would allow individuals with existing mortgages to keep the deduction as is, while gradually reducing the cap to $500,000 for new mortgages. Another idea proposed by the authors is to change the deduction to a flat rate tax credit, to “limit the subsidy provided to upper-income taxpayers while simultaneously expanding it at the lower end of the income distribution.”

My preferred approach would be to slowly phase it out over time as part of a broader tax reform that lowered tax rates for everybody.


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KEYWORDS: excisetax; incometax; mortgage; obamataxhikes; salestax; tax; taxes
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1 posted on 03/28/2014 7:03:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

All the mortgage tax deduction does is help inflate the price of homes.


2 posted on 03/28/2014 7:06:55 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Not going to happen. Only retiring politicians would vote for something like that.


3 posted on 03/28/2014 7:07:21 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: SeekAndFind

There’s no such thing as “fair” taxes. The two words should never be in the same paragraph, let alone in the same sentence or next to each other.


4 posted on 03/28/2014 7:07:29 AM PDT by abb
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To: SeekAndFind

but I bought it as an “invuhst muhnt”...............

sheesh, like you get a tax break for having a huge unpaid debt

people are so stupid


5 posted on 03/28/2014 7:07:43 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SeekAndFind

OK, so professionals will just form a corporation, have it buy a house, and rent it to themselves. All mortgage interest, maintenance, etc will be business expenses.


6 posted on 03/28/2014 7:07:52 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If people had to send a check to Government (State, Local & Federal) every MONTH and actually SAW how ripped off we all are, the White House would be stormed and the Tax Codes would be changed overnight.

Let’s do the same for sales taxes, too, and gasoline taxes and every other hidden ‘fee’ we pay each and every day.

Infuriating! And they now wish to take away the meager CRUMBS they throw to we RESPONSIBLE, hard-working Taxpayers?

Eff that!


7 posted on 03/28/2014 7:08:49 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: SeekAndFind

If 10% is good enough for God, 1% should be good enough for government.


8 posted on 03/28/2014 7:08:59 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SeekAndFind

Does anyone still deduct mortgage interest? I haven’t for years - I use Standard Deductions and thats it.

I wish the article had hard and fast numbers for the total US taxpayers who itemize for mortgage interest. I bet its not much.


9 posted on 03/28/2014 7:09:40 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve been in favor of scrapping this deduction since the mid-1980’s. And I was able to take the deduction back then. The problem is that most people vote their wallets (which is one reason we are in the mess we’re in) and are against it because they will lose one of their deductions.

Interestingly, because interest rates are so low and in many parts of the country you can get an amazing home for under $200k. When compared to the standard deduction, it means the mortgage deduction has become a dedection for the upper middle class and above.

But yeah, simplify the dang tax code. This would be another step i the right direction.


10 posted on 03/28/2014 7:09:49 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You are correct. And the analysis in the article is also correct in saying that it is a welfare program primarily for rich people. Makes no sense. Get rid of it.


11 posted on 03/28/2014 7:10:00 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: PapaBear3625

“OK, so professionals will just form a corporation, have it buy a house, and rent it to themselves. All mortgage interest, maintenance, etc will be business expenses.”

We plan on doing exactly that when we start farming full time. ;)


12 posted on 03/28/2014 7:10:03 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Texas Eagle

1% would never support the Empire.


13 posted on 03/28/2014 7:10:10 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: SeekAndFind

I just never get over sometimes hearing idiots partly justify their purchase of a home because of the tax deduction, as if it were free money in their pocket.


14 posted on 03/28/2014 7:10:21 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Wolfie

Heh, heh. That’s the idea.


15 posted on 03/28/2014 7:10:44 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: KoRn
I just never get over sometimes hearing idiots partly justify their purchase of a home because of the tax deduction, as if it were free money in their pocket.

Perfectly valid, though, when comparing the cost of a mortgage to paying rent.

16 posted on 03/28/2014 7:12:49 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: SeekAndFind

The real estate lobby is by far bigger than any other self interest group in DC. Dropping the deduction ain’t happening.


17 posted on 03/28/2014 7:14:11 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: abb

How about fairER taxes?
Taxes based on consumption instead of income (which is a measure of your productivity).

Of course, if we want the only “biblical approved” tax, it would be a head tax.


18 posted on 03/28/2014 7:14:36 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m sorry, absent from this math is taxes that actually cover what the federal government spends, not the current taxed amount. So if we add in all the government actually spends in a given year, taxes go up. Strange this concept, paying for the outrageous spending by the government, but hey, that’s how you actually reform the system.

Then again, such an idea would explode the Taxed Enough Already party.

Quick, let’s give away more money! There’s a government worker out there who doesn’t currently have the opportunity to double dip on their pensions.


19 posted on 03/28/2014 7:15:12 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: SeekAndFind; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ..

The mortgage interest deduction isn’t worth much because rates have been so low for so long. But getting rid of it just amounts to an income tax increase.

Flat income tax.

Personal exemptions should be worth, say, $25,000, so the income tax cuts would fall disproportionately on those who don’t make a lot. The other exemptions would be for retirement accounts and medical spending accounts. Health insurance would be made the responsibility of the citizen.

Eliminate most or all federal excise taxes, in particular, the retail fuel tax, replacing that example with a $10 a barrel tax on imports *and* exports of fuel (crude and refined), then eliminate the “carbon” BS and open up drilling. Prohibit state excise tax increase on fuel.

Impose a 2 percent federal sales tax, exempting food, but also defining food (iow, reform food stamps so that they can’t be used for junk food). Prohibit state sales tax increases, or maybe cap them at 5 percent. California for example used to have a different sales tax rate in each suburb, as I recall from my 1984 trip to LA.


20 posted on 03/28/2014 7:15:14 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alreadyposted/index)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Here’s my plan - eliminate withholding and move tax day to October 31.

Think about it.


21 posted on 03/28/2014 7:15:20 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind

And put Tax Lawyers and Accountants out of work?
Never happen.


22 posted on 03/28/2014 7:15:41 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind
The purpose of taxes is to raise money to finance government services, not to manipulate human behavior or economic activity.

That might be, but the purpose of the tax code is strictly about manipulating behavior.

23 posted on 03/28/2014 7:15:42 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Operating out of weakness? Imagine if he was working from a position of strength!)
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To: SeekAndFind

This old idea is nothing more than offering a bait and switch. The bait is lower taxes overall but the switch is that taxes never go down or away. The fed is not the only taxing entity that takes money from us for carrying a mortgage. State, county, local all have fingers in the pie. If anything, taxes would go up at those levels.


24 posted on 03/28/2014 7:16:12 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Oh, and as to your statement about responsible people?

Those are EXACTLY the people that Obama seeks to cut off at the knees. EVERY policy of his has that intent and effect.


25 posted on 03/28/2014 7:16:19 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Simple. Evil. Perfect. *SMIRK*

It’s SO depressing to look at my paycheck stubs even though I put every DIME I can into pre-tax dollars for my 401K and my health care!


26 posted on 03/28/2014 7:17:50 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: MrB

“Those are EXACTLY the people that Obama seeks to cut off at the knees.”

I’m only 5’1”. I’m fighting THAT, too, LOL!


27 posted on 03/28/2014 7:18:43 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: KoRn

Analyze this math -

100k loan at 3.5% interest.
Interest is tax deductible making it actually around 2.1%.
Inflation is 4-7%.

Who’s paying whom?


28 posted on 03/28/2014 7:18:44 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind

Need to do away with all deductions and go with a flat tax.

Have one personal exemption equal to the poverty line of about $12,000 and every dime after be taxed at one flat rate.

Married single one kid or 20, every dime after the personal exemption is taxed.

That would instantly end the class warfare and it would assure that liberals couldn’t get elected on ‘taxing the rich.’

It would be damn hard to get support for raising taxes if everyone paid the same rate.

It would also force high tax liberal states to fund their own BS ideas, because those high state and local taxes wouldn’t be deductible!


29 posted on 03/28/2014 7:19:30 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: MrB
Here’s my plan - eliminate withholding and move tax day to October 31.

IMO, you wouldn't need to move the date. If withholding went, away, everything else would take care of itself. Do some research sometimes on the legislative debate when it was first enacted in 1943. The title is the "Current Payment Tax Act of 1943."

30 posted on 03/28/2014 7:20:19 AM PDT by abb
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To: abb

Moving the date is just my frosting on the cupcake.

Election day is a week after that, usually.


31 posted on 03/28/2014 7:21:52 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind
The purpose of taxes is to raise money to finance government services, not to manipulate human behavior or economic activity.
Heh. No legislator thinks that is the function of taxes or any other law. All of the laws aim to regulate behavior, ESPECIALLY tax laws.
32 posted on 03/28/2014 7:23:03 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: KoRn

There seem to be an awful lot of people who don’t understand that if you pay $1000 for a tax deductible expense and it saves you $200 in taxes, you’re still out $800.


33 posted on 03/28/2014 7:23:52 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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To: SunkenCiv

“California for example used to have a different sales tax rate in each suburb, as I recall from my 1984 trip to LA.”

The situation with sales tax is similar here in the Bay Area, and probably statewide.


34 posted on 03/28/2014 7:25:51 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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To: yldstrk

The majority of most people’s net worth is their house. Doing away with the mortgage deduction will decrease the value of their largest asset.

Doing away with the mortgage deduction would be right up there with confiscating 401k accounts as a way to harm working people.


35 posted on 03/28/2014 7:26:25 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll agree to that as soon as the legislature names one useless government agency they are going to shutter. Let me help them choose: EPA, TSA, Dept of Educ, DHS take your pick.


36 posted on 03/28/2014 7:26:30 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Time to scrap the income tax. Period.


37 posted on 03/28/2014 7:26:50 AM PDT by upsdriver
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To: SeekAndFind

The Tax code - and special interests trying to game it - are a HUGE source of corruption in washington.

Flat tax - personal and child deductions only. NOTHING else.


38 posted on 03/28/2014 7:27:12 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: MrB

Actually, I would trade away all the deductions, etc., if withholding were abolished.

http://www.taxhistory.com/1943.html

http://www.taxhistory.org/civilization/Documents/Withholding/hst29051/29051-1.htm

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/03/repeal_the_current_tax_payment_act_of_1943.html

http://www.taxhistory.org/thp/readings.nsf/cf7c9c870b600b9585256df80075b9dd/671f701c110a19d985256e430079173d?OpenDocument

http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/serials/files/cato-journal/1995/1/cj14n3-1.pdf
EVOLUTION OF FEDERAL INCOME TAX WITHHOLDING: THE MACHINERY OF INSTITUTIONAL CHANGE


39 posted on 03/28/2014 7:27:46 AM PDT by abb
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Not going to happen. Only retiring politicians would vote for something like that.

Yup.

40 posted on 03/28/2014 7:28:25 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: abb

But there are more unfair taxes than others.

The mortgage deduction should be phased out, say, on a five-year schedule.


41 posted on 03/28/2014 7:31:11 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

The problem is who gets to decide what is “fair” and “unfair.” I would trade all the “deductions” for abolition of withholding.


42 posted on 03/28/2014 7:34:01 AM PDT by abb
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To: yldstrk
but I bought it as an “invuhst muhnt”............... sheesh, like you get a tax break for having a huge unpaid debt

Yes and no. You have to pay to live somewhere. People know how much they can afford versus renting based on that tax deduction. Several of my kids bought their first homes with a monthly payment identical to their rent payments. After the tax deductions for property taxes and mortgage interest, owning the home was actually cheaper.

By the way, I completely support a flat tax and would love to see the mortgage deduction taken away. As an added bonus, it'd hit the limosine libs hard. ;)

43 posted on 03/28/2014 7:35:15 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: SeekAndFind

ping


44 posted on 03/28/2014 7:39:02 AM PDT by gattaca (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Ecclesiastes10:2)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

Getting rid of ‘just’ the mortgage interest deduction would screw the middle class taxpayers.

It is often their biggest itemized deduction, and when coupled with state and local taxes, chartable contributions, tools and uniforms for work, etc is the only way they can file long form. Without it they’re screwed.

Much better to eliminate all deductions and go with a flat tax.


45 posted on 03/28/2014 7:43:08 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: SeekAndFind

Of all the problems with the tax code, the mortgage interest deduction is dead last in what needs to be changed. That and a health insurance deduction for individuals should be the only deductions available. Also charitable dedications.


46 posted on 03/28/2014 7:50:56 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

My thoughts mirror yours. It has been such a long slog for the past 6 years with having a ‘target’ on our backs for being responsible!

I have a compromise; take my home interest deduction IF they also take that pitiful child credit allowed to illegals who claim 8 thousand kids! Deal?!


47 posted on 03/28/2014 7:51:16 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: SeekAndFind

A flat tax is a fair tax, and everyone being taxed has a franchise on tax policy at that point.

Right now, the takers vote themselves more stuff that the makers have to pay for. This creates more takers, which gives them an enhanced ability to pass more votes.

The canoe then tips.

I’m for eliminating ALL deductions, just as soon as someone says, “Pay 10 percent of everything - that’s it - and everyone has to do it, 8 to 80, lame, cripple, or crazy”

Even the Russians figured this one out.

Hell, I aspire to serfdom. That was 25%. I’m paying an aggregate of 54% now across all entities, not including utilities and special tax districts.


48 posted on 03/28/2014 7:55:28 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: SeekAndFind

The tax code subsidizes debt and taxes profit. Can anyone offer a cogent argument in favor of this?


49 posted on 03/28/2014 7:55:37 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: abb

Eliminating withholding would stab the beast in the heart.


50 posted on 03/28/2014 7:57:05 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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