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Holder says feds will recognize Michigan same-sex marriages despite governor's decision
foxnews.com ^ | 3/28/13 | ap

Posted on 03/28/2014 7:30:19 AM PDT by ColdOne

ttorney General Eric Holder said Friday that the federal government will recognize about 300 same-sex marriages performed in Michigan before a federal appeals court halted them, despite a decision by Michigan's governor not to recognize those unions.

The decision means federal benefits will be extended to those couples -- including the ability to file taxes jointly, get Social Security benefits for spouses and request legal immigration status for partners.

"These families will be eligible for all relevant federal benefits on the same terms as other same-sex marriages," Holder said in a statement.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: ericholder; gaymarriage; holder; homosexualagenda; michigan; obamanation; ricksnyder; sodomy; ssm

1 posted on 03/28/2014 7:30:19 AM PDT by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

It is not a good thing to defy the will of the people.


2 posted on 03/28/2014 7:32:36 AM PDT by Slyfox (When Jesus sees a momma holding her little baby, it reminds him of his own momma.)
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To: ColdOne

can I ask a stupid question? If the legality of these marriages is unclear, how can the attorney general unilaterally decide he will recognize them??

Is this just another example of the lawlessness of the Obama administration? In this case, since the administration favors homosexual marriage, they have decided to act, before the appeals court has even heard the case?????


3 posted on 03/28/2014 7:33:25 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (as)
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To: ColdOne

Think of all those Democrat voters!

/s/

IMHO


4 posted on 03/28/2014 7:34:01 AM PDT by ripley
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To: Amendment10

Ping.


5 posted on 03/28/2014 7:36:57 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: ColdOne

Lawlessness.


6 posted on 03/28/2014 7:42:02 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: ColdOne
Holder said Friday that law and state's rights mean nothing to us, and the federal government will recognize about 300 same-sex marriages
7 posted on 03/28/2014 7:46:41 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: ColdOne

Righteousness at the state level won’t do much good when God lets His hand of judgment fall on the whole country.


8 posted on 03/28/2014 7:47:43 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Is this just another example of the lawlessness of the Obama administration? In this case, since the administration favors homosexual marriage, they have decided to act, before the appeals court has even heard the case?????

Bingo! You nailed it.

9 posted on 03/28/2014 7:47:45 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: ColdOne

Belongs in breaking.


10 posted on 03/28/2014 7:51:42 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: ColdOne
federal government will recognize about 300 same-sex marriages performed in Michigan before a federal appeals court halted them, despite a decision by Michigan's governor not to recognize those unions.

I don't believe it's accurate to they Michigan's governor decided not to recognize "those unions." This from MSU State News: Snyder: Gay marriages valid, but no benefits yet

"Gov. Rick Snyder declared the marriages of about 300 same-sex couples married in Michigan valid Wednesday, but newlyweds shouldn’t expect to see full marriage benefits yet.

In a statement, Snyder said the state would recognize the legality of the same-sex marriages that took place on Saturday after U.S. District Judge Bernard Friedman’s ruling struck down the ban.

Snyder made clear the state thought the marriages — conducted between the ruling and the stay — were legal, but did not go so far as to grant the newly-married couples full marriage rights in the state.

After Snyder and Attorney General Bill Schuette’s request for a temporary stay was granted Saturday evening, the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals decided to continue the motion until a decision is made by the higher court.

“After comprehensive legal review of state law and all recent court rulings, we have concluded that same-sex couples were legally married at county clerk offices,” Snyder said in the statement. However, the couples’ marriage benefits are suspended until “further court rulings are issued on this matter,” the statement said.

The state’s current stance on the matter will prevent couples from taking on the usual benefits of married couples, such as filing taxes as a married couple, insurance coverage and employee benefits for the time being.

“If you are married and you own a car and you transfer ownership to your spouse, there is no tax to pay. Same-sex couples have to pay,” MSU law professor Mae Kuykendall said.

“The governor didn’t want to say (Saturday’s marriages are) invalid and will be ignored, but he didn’t want to treat them as full marriages."

According to Kuykendall, Michigan’s same-sex marriages would still be recognized in other jurisdictions where gay marriage is legal, such as New York, even if they are not yet recognized in Michigan.

A similar incident occurred in the United States v. Windsor case last year, Kuykendall said, where Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg referred to the marriages under the new ruling as “skim milk” marriages.

In a statement released Wednesday, Ingham County Clerk Barb Byrum asked Snyder and Schuette to “put Michigan on the right side of history.”

“When it comes to making Michigan a forward-looking state, Governor Snyder and Attorney General Schuette need to lead or get out of the way,” Byrum said in a statement.

11 posted on 03/28/2014 7:53:12 AM PDT by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: ColdOne
When the top cop in the nation ignores the laws on the books, judicial opinions handed down, ignores states rights, and ignores his oath to uphold such laws and the US Constitution, then you know the current RULERS in America have successfully perpetrated a bloodless COUP D'ÉTAT.

America in deep slumber in front of their 92" LCD TV feasting on porn and sports. All the while we are "enjoying" the results coming out of our Roman Senate.
12 posted on 03/28/2014 7:54:35 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: ColdOne

I believe that whenever the Feds “recognize” behavior not legal in the States, they should have the involved parties moved to The District of Columbia to live.


13 posted on 03/28/2014 8:00:38 AM PDT by dagogo redux
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To: ColdOne
Holder appears to be a leading prophet for the great apostasy and rebellion.

Thanks to his efforts, to partially quote Luke's Uncle Owen, "...there'll be hell to pay."

14 posted on 03/28/2014 8:01:00 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: ColdOne

I think the Articles of Confederation gave too much authority to the feds.


15 posted on 03/28/2014 8:03:13 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: ColdOne
10th Amendment where are thou?
16 posted on 03/28/2014 8:05:41 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: ColdOne

Just a thought, but sooner or later Republicans (and if we wish hard enough, conservatives) will be in power.

Will the left sit quietly by while a Republican administration follows Holders lead and only enforce laws he wants to enforce?

(That was a rhetorical question, we all know once we have a Republican administration we will again be hearing about abuse of power, calls for special prosecutors and the Imperial President.


17 posted on 03/28/2014 8:08:38 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I do not doubt that our climate changes. I only doubt that anything man does has any effect.)
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To: ColdOne

The criminal attorney general needs to answer to a special prosecutor.


18 posted on 03/28/2014 8:10:03 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Genoa

It won’t be long if we continue down this path!


19 posted on 03/28/2014 8:20:42 AM PDT by Keen-Minded
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To: Dilbert San Diego; P-Marlowe

I agree. How can you recognize what didn’t take place?


20 posted on 03/28/2014 8:33:53 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Slyfox

For more than five years they’ve defied the people. There is no longer a “united states”. There is only one state. I don’t understand why people even vote for state offices anymore.


21 posted on 03/28/2014 8:35:46 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: ColdOne

Sure am glad WithHolder has his priorities straight. I mean, it’s obviously much more important to recognize homosexual ‘marriage’ than it is to, say, comply with legitimate oversight requests for documents relating to official misconduct in the IRS.


22 posted on 03/28/2014 8:36:31 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Slyfox
It is not a good thing to defy the will of the people.

Right, and most certainly it is not a good idea to defy the will of almighty God.

23 posted on 03/28/2014 8:38:26 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

With a republican administration we’ll also be hearing “We need to move forward.”


24 posted on 03/28/2014 8:39:00 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: ColdOne

Of all marriages say in a State like Michigan, I’d surmise the same-sex unions percentage would be .00005% or something. Too bad so much ink in the press is over this topic. Political Football.


25 posted on 03/28/2014 8:54:34 AM PDT by BeadCounter (morning glory evening grace)
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To: ColdOne

So what gives him the right to just jump into the fray and make such a declaration? Once again, Obama’s lawless regime is fighting against the wishes of the people and breaking laws that go against the socialist/anti-colonialist concepts of his administration. Someone PLEASE ARREST THIS MAN!


26 posted on 03/28/2014 8:55:49 AM PDT by ducttape45
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To: BeadCounter

It actually is the media covering up the top story this week on the Obamacare scam before the March 31st deadline with a story to make the base feel like they are being wronged and now vindicated.

Oh look, there’s a squirrel!

Too bad so much ink in the press is over this topic. Political Football.


27 posted on 03/28/2014 9:12:53 AM PDT by Dacula
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To: ColdOne

Holders’s DOJ——Book Em’ Dano!


28 posted on 03/28/2014 9:13:11 AM PDT by FreedomGuru (Time for torches and pitchforks.)
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To: ColdOne

so a judge stated this sham is not marriage but Holder said screw you judge, we do what we want and we will recognize what we want regardless of the law.

and the outrage from our side is where???


29 posted on 03/28/2014 9:14:43 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: GBA
Thanks to his efforts, to partially quote Luke's Uncle Owen, "...there'll be hell to pay."

You get a Gold Star for being able to fluidly throw a Star Wars reference into the topic. I'd quit and go home while ahead, if I were you :-)

30 posted on 03/28/2014 9:24:38 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: ColdOne

GTH, Eric Holder.


31 posted on 03/28/2014 9:27:38 AM PDT by madison10
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To: VerySadAmerican
There still is a United States and it is us, We the People. We have to look past the smoke and mirrors.

We need to follow those who have reliably shown themselves to follow God.

To do otherwise is to follow Holder, Obama, Jarrett, Hillary, etc. into hell.

32 posted on 03/28/2014 9:29:40 AM PDT by Slyfox (When Jesus sees a momma holding her little baby, it reminds him of his own momma.)
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To: ColdOne

Anything to further wreck America....


33 posted on 03/28/2014 9:35:09 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: GBA; MeshugeMikey; cyn; 444Flyer
Holder appears to be a leading prophet for the great apostasy and rebellion.

I was just thinking of this yesterday, and now here is your particular description. Reminds me of

2 Thess 2

6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity [lawlessness] doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked* be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

*459 anomos {an'-om-os}
from 1 (as a negative particle) and 3551; TDNT - 4:1086,646; adj

AV - without law 4, transgressor 2, wicked 2, lawless 1, unlawful 1; 10

Now maybe the keyword associations here WRT Obama, Holder, and the *Justice* Department are merely coincidence, but unlikely, as it is a fitting picture of these lawless "keepers" of the law. Metaphorically accurate at minimum.

When the "leader of the free world" can be (and routinely is) described as a lawless, lying, thieving despot whose spirit and behavior are indistinguishable from that of an evil, ruthless, communist dictator... the world has a severe instability problem. Sinkhole City.

"spirit of his (the Lord's) mouth" = truth

"brightness of his (its?) coming" = light of truth

Sunlight, God's bleach.

34 posted on 03/28/2014 9:59:03 AM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: ColdOne

They literally a short time ago argued DOMA was illegal because only states can define marriage. Now they turn around and ignore the state’s definition of marriage.


35 posted on 03/28/2014 10:08:58 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Ezekiel
Barack Obama and all those like him are the Modern Day Biblical ASSyrians!

Sent by God to Punish America!

" if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven.... and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land..."
36 posted on 03/28/2014 10:32:31 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Cheerio

The GOP is asleep. The kenyan can do whatever he wants.


37 posted on 03/28/2014 10:54:39 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: MeshugeMikey
Barack Obama and all those like him are the Modern Day Biblical ASSyrians!

Sent by God to Punish America!

Excellent point. Those were the folks who dispersed the Northern Kingdom into utter oblivion, being the instrument of God's punishment for the severe idolatry and whoredoms of the House of Israel.

America is being revealed as modern nation that represents the last days regathering of the lost tribes aka Ephraim or House of Joseph. Emphasis on LOST, not to mention the over-the-top irony of her prophets (prophecy experts) who ask, "Where is America in Biblical Prophecy?" or "Why isn't America mentioned in Biblical Prophecy?"

Good thing the real prophets wrote for the benefit of a small remnant, not the stadium crowds.

38 posted on 03/28/2014 10:57:02 AM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: Ezekiel

Values and the relationship between mans values and God’s choices never change.


39 posted on 03/28/2014 11:00:54 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: MeshugeMikey
Values and the relationship between mans values and God’s choices never change.

Goes a long way in explaining why Obama campaigned on the [lying] promise of "Change you can believe in". Truth doesn't change, but the obamahordes are determined to believe otherwise.

40 posted on 03/28/2014 11:13:08 AM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: Ezekiel

I have never been more offended than I have been about the regimes choice of the word HOPE....as a SLOGAN!


41 posted on 03/28/2014 11:16:44 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

he would probably recognize marriages to children and goats if it advanced an agenda


42 posted on 03/28/2014 11:21:20 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: ColdOne
In a tyranny, everyone is a criminal, except for the government and criminals who work for the government.

Eric Holder is nothing more than a racist thug criminal.

43 posted on 03/28/2014 12:36:51 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Dilbert San Diego
...how can the attorney general unilaterally decide he will recognize them??

"It is good to be the King!" (or the King's Prime Minister)

44 posted on 03/28/2014 1:34:34 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: ColdOne

I live in Michigan i do not recognize the marriages of these idiots. What my vote against faggot marriages does not count. Holder is to uphold the US Constitution. See I do not recognize the marriages so I do matter for something. what benefits none will be granted.


45 posted on 03/28/2014 5:32:23 PM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: grobdriver

That statement should scare the hell out of everybody! Yet most people still choose to sleep. God help us all!


46 posted on 03/29/2014 7:11:00 AM PDT by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: ColdOne

Screw you and your little 10th Amendment!


47 posted on 03/30/2014 3:44:10 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: ColdOne

under whose authority? Holder is just AG not legislature.


48 posted on 04/04/2014 6:47:13 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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