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Video: County commissioner violates federal judge’s order, mentions Jesus at meeting
hotair.com ^ | 3/28/14 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 03/28/2014 8:17:11 AM PDT by cotton1706

Can a public official mention Jesus at an official meeting? According to a federal judge in Maryland, the answer is no. According to Carroll County commissioner Robin Frazier, it’s yes — and she’s willing to go to jail to defend what she sees is her right to free speech and religious expression:

Commissioner defies judge's order, talks Jesus

“Out of respect for my colleagues — I’m not sure how strongly they feel about it. I’m willing to go to jail over it,” Frazier said during the meeting, referring to Jesus Christ twice despite the ruling.

“(Let) the Lord Jesus Christ to admit me to render these deserved thanks and praises for thy manifold mercies extended toward me. Let thy blessings guide this day, and forever, through Jesus Christ and his blessed form of prayer, I conclude my weak petitions,” she said during the meeting.

After receiving complaints, some Carroll County residents and a group called American Humanist Association issued a warning to the board about “sectarian prayer” during meetings in 2012 and then followed up with a lawsuit in April 2013.

“After the judge has already agreed with us that that’s what’s going on, I think it’s particularly troubling that one of the council members saw fit to violate not only the Constitution but the judge’s very specifically ruling that they can’t be doing this,” said Monica Miller, an attorney for the American Humanist Association.

This fellow seemed to have the best take on the situation:

“My concern is, really, who cares? If they say Jesus, I mean, does it really offend anybody?” questioned resident Brian Resch.

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1 posted on 03/28/2014 8:17:11 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

What nation do I live in. This goes against everything I know and love about this country. This is the exact stuff we grew up fearing about the Soviet Union!!!


2 posted on 03/28/2014 8:18:50 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: Phillyred

Correct. This is the problem with progressives, thye want to make us mindless robots. So when thye run their mouths about how bad it is in other countries with their freedoms.
Our government is no better.


3 posted on 03/28/2014 8:22:42 AM PDT by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: cotton1706

John 15:18-25
New International Version (NIV)

The World Hates the Disciples
18 “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. 19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. 20 Remember what I told you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’[a] If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also. 21 They will treat you this way because of my name, for they do not know the one who sent me. 22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin; but now they have no excuse for their sin. 23 Whoever hates me hates my Father as well. 24 If I had not done among them the works no one else did, they would not be guilty of sin. As it is, they have seen, and yet they have hated both me and my Father. 25 But this is to fulfill what is written in their Law: ‘They hated me without reason.’


4 posted on 03/28/2014 8:33:57 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Admin Moderator

Dupe. Just posted....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3138338/posts


5 posted on 03/28/2014 8:34:25 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: cotton1706
Any law repugnant to the Constitution is void....

the federal judge is trying to overthrow the government, it is not his place to "abridge free speech" it is his place to enforce the oath that he took, and receives wages and compensation for holding his position.

(its called breach of contract if he fails to do so)

If he wishes to write an amendment to the Constitution.... then follow the f'en procedures.

6 posted on 03/28/2014 8:38:19 AM PDT by SERE_DOC ( “The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” TJ.)
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To: cotton1706

Can a public official mention Jesus at an official meeting? According to a federal judge in Maryland, the answer is no.

A public official can fall to their knees and pray to God at an official meeting if they desire. That is according to the US Constitution.


7 posted on 03/28/2014 8:52:49 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
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To: cotton1706

“After the judge has already agreed with us that that’s what’s going on, I think it’s particularly troubling that one of the council members saw fit to violate not only the Constitution but the judge’s very specifically ruling that they can’t be doing this,” said Monica Miller, an attorney for the American Humanist Association.

You have to have more bends then a pretzel to think the Constitution prohibits mention Jesus at a meeting.


8 posted on 03/28/2014 8:54:55 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
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To: cotton1706

Members of the Humanist Cult are intolerant bigots.


9 posted on 03/28/2014 9:06:34 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Phillyred

We now live in a country that has speech police! There is absolutely nothing whatsoever in the US Constitution that gives government the right to limit religious speech. #1 we have a constitutional right to say what we want (even if some find it offensive) and #2 we have a constitutional right to practice our religions. One doesn’t give up those rights simply because they’re associated in some way with government.

Even if one doesn’t want to hear the name Jesus, think about where these laws lead! It’s destroying the civil society—not defending it! We’re giving government the right to police what we say, and that power could be turned against anyone of us at any time. Not only that, but it creates a litigious society where citizens run to government to browbeat their neighbors. Don’t like what someone says? Sue ‘em! It’s sick.

Again, even if one wants to silence Christians, just think of the can of worms that’s opened up when we give the government the power to police offensive or religious speech!


10 posted on 03/28/2014 9:30:40 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Sodomy and abortion: the only constitutional "rights" cherished by Democrats.)
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To: cotton1706

God bless this woman.


11 posted on 03/28/2014 9:46:47 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (God is not the author of confusion. 1 Cor 13: 33)
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To: CitizenUSA

It’s incredible. And these judges who struggle with the interpretation of our laws....all they have to do is look at a few history books! Read a few federalist papers to get their intent.. But nooooo, it’s so much more complicated than that.


12 posted on 03/28/2014 9:57:33 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: cotton1706

The judge isn’t going to do anything about this, and the judge knows it.


13 posted on 03/28/2014 10:32:13 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Phillyred

American Humanist Association.
They want their religion followed to the letter of mans law.
Every one else must abandon theirs.


14 posted on 03/28/2014 10:42:43 AM PDT by spudville
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