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Obama: Russia must pull back troops from Ukraine border
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Posted on 03/28/2014 11:17:00 AM PDT by traumer

US President Barack Obama has urged Russia to "move back its troops" on Ukraine's border and lower tensions.

Russia is believed to have massed a force of several thousand troops close to Ukraine's eastern frontier.

Mr Obama told CBS News it may "be an effort to intimidate Ukraine, or it may be that [Russia has] additional plans."

Meanwhile, a Russian security official has said intelligence measures are being stepped up to counter Western threats to Moscow's influence.

Russia annexed the Crimea peninsula from Ukraine after voters in the region backed the move in a 16 March referendum. But both actions were condemned as illegal on Thursday by the UN General Assembly.

Fears are growing that other parts of Ukraine with large ethnic Russian populations could also be of interest to Moscow.

'US hysteria' Federal Security Service (FSB) deputy head Alexander Malevany said Russia was facing "a sharp increase in external threats to the state".

"The lawful desire of the peoples of Crimea and eastern Ukrainian regions is causing hysteria in the United States and its allies," he was quoted as saying by Interfax.

Mr Malevany said Moscow was taking "offensive intelligence measures" to counter Western efforts to "weaken Russian influence in a region that is of vital importance".

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: hissyfit; obama; obamaukraine; putin; russia; ukraincrisis; ukraine; ukraineborder; ukrainecrisis
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1 posted on 03/28/2014 11:17:00 AM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer

Cue the giggles from Pooty.


2 posted on 03/28/2014 11:18:33 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: traumer

So they can stay as long as they stay away from the border?


3 posted on 03/28/2014 11:18:35 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: traumer
Russia is believed to have massed a force of several thousand troops close to Ukraine's eastern frontier.

Believe by who? Based on what evidence? I haven't seen any.

4 posted on 03/28/2014 11:20:35 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: traumer

Or else?


5 posted on 03/28/2014 11:21:04 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: traumer

Putin obviously perceives no price to pay this administration.


6 posted on 03/28/2014 11:21:33 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: dfwgator

7 posted on 03/28/2014 11:24:42 AM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer

Obama, if you can’t say anything useful, just shut up.


8 posted on 03/28/2014 11:24:59 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: traumer

This is serious. He may resort to issuing yet another “executive order” to tell Russia where it may station its armies.


9 posted on 03/28/2014 11:26:29 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: faithhopecharity

If he’s really serious, he’ll threaten to impose ObamaCare on Russia.


10 posted on 03/28/2014 11:27:00 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: traumer

Can’t Bammy go vacation in the Crimea for a while?


11 posted on 03/28/2014 11:28:11 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: traumer

Is he going to issue a strongly-worded letter in crayon and sprayed with perfume?


12 posted on 03/28/2014 11:28:26 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: faithhopecharity

As a loud roar of laughter is heard from the 100,000 troops on the UK border!


13 posted on 03/28/2014 11:28:55 AM PDT by DocJhn
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To: traumer

Rachel Maddow never looked that good!


14 posted on 03/28/2014 11:29:26 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: traumer

Bammy is double dog daring him...


15 posted on 03/28/2014 11:29:33 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: traumer

Rachel Maddow never looked that good!

And this is Hugh!


16 posted on 03/28/2014 11:30:00 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: traumer
US President Barack Obama has urged Russia to "move back its troops" on Ukraine's border and lower tensions.

Uh-Oh! Putin's in big trouble now! Obama has stopped expressing "deep concern" and has stepped it up to "urging" Russia not to go any further. Can a "pretty please, with sugar on top" be far behind?

17 posted on 03/28/2014 11:30:16 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: traumer

Another yellow line in the snow.


18 posted on 03/28/2014 11:30:42 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: traumer

Ordering the Russians to get clear of the border is pretty serious. The only way it would have been more serious would have been if he specified the direction - back towards Russia or further into the Crimea.


19 posted on 03/28/2014 11:32:41 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: dfwgator

The Russians will never accept Obamacare. They’d take that as an act of war.


20 posted on 03/28/2014 11:32:52 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: traumer
I actually think Putin, after having taken the full measure of Obama, is allowing the U.S. (Obama) to throw down the gauntlet and finish the rounds of reassuring Eastern European NATO members. Why? Because he knows Obama is an empty suit, who will do nothing when the tanks roll.

He gets Ukraine either way, but by waiting, he may also get Eastern Europe, who will be too scared to challenge Russia in the future, with the U.S. having proved itself a paper tiger.

21 posted on 03/28/2014 11:33:29 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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Hell, if I were Putin given Obama’s empty threats, I station troops in the Aleutians ready to take Alaska back.


22 posted on 03/28/2014 11:38:08 AM PDT by masadaman
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To: traumer

Since this whole situation is one that obama created, obama’s words mean nothing since obama said he was flexible. When stupid people like obama say something he should at least attempt to think and be intelligent before speaking but for obama that would mean he would have to have the ability to think which is a trait obama does not have. Go sit down somewhere obama and be quiet before you create more trouble, please. This planet does not need a World War of your making!!!


23 posted on 03/28/2014 11:39:32 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: traumer

Do it or I’ll give you such a Tweet!!!


24 posted on 03/28/2014 11:43:59 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Enemies Beware: Obama has a phone and a # and he knows how to use them.)
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To: masadaman

...and Putin laughs....and we can only shake our heads at what passes for leadership in this country


25 posted on 03/28/2014 11:50:15 AM PDT by rights with responsibilities
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To: traumer

From the mouth of the great Obummer, I’m sure Putin is quivering in his boots.


26 posted on 03/28/2014 11:51:36 AM PDT by Vinylly (?)
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To: traumer

“No, not my gentle son. The mere sight of him would only encourage an enemy to take over the whole country...”

http://www.thelin.net/laurent/cinema/films/tt0112573/123008.jpg


27 posted on 03/28/2014 11:52:06 AM PDT by BrewingFrog (I brew, therefore I am!)
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To: dfwgator

He’ll draw another Red Line!!!!!!!


28 posted on 03/28/2014 11:55:20 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Tastes like Heaven, Burns like Hell! Mmmmmm. What is it?)
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To: Mygirlsmom
Do it or I’ll give you such a Tweet!!!

Ha...maybe he will Twerk him...../snicker

29 posted on 03/28/2014 11:56:14 AM PDT by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: traumer

Or what, Barky?


30 posted on 03/28/2014 11:56:56 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: Genoa

Anybody got any red chalk to hand him?


31 posted on 03/28/2014 11:57:02 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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stfu Barry.. everyone knows you don’t mean it.


32 posted on 03/28/2014 11:57:07 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: traumer

...or what?


33 posted on 03/28/2014 12:08:02 PM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: Mygirlsmom

Well done!


34 posted on 03/28/2014 12:10:07 PM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: traumer

“Obama: Russia must pull back troops from Ukraine border”

Or what, Mr. Mom-jeans?

Seriously. WHAT, EXACTLY, are you going to do if Putin DOESN’T order his troops to be pulled back? Are you going to tell him, “STOP, or I shall tell you to STOP again” like the old Monty Python routine? That might be entertaining, but it is hardly a wise or well thought-out policy.

We have no significant military forces in the area, the Soviets, errr, Russians have phenomenol nearby numerical superiority;

We have no substantial reserves of forces to send into the area and, if we did, they’d have to transit a gauntlet of Russian air, naval and land forces just to get there, let alone do anything about dislodging tens of thousands of dug-in Russians from positions hundreds of miles from the Crimean Peninsula;

This is a VITAL area for Russia and it isn’t at all vital to us.

Our nation is very tired of fighting pointless ground wars (you, yourself being a pretty constant (and annoying) reminder of that in 2007 and 2008); and (last but certainly not least)

Russia has several thousand nukes.

SO, GENIUS, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? It is quite evident that you didn’t take the advice of Officer Jimmy Malone from “The Untouchables” to avoid going into a gun fight with a knife - in fact, your reckless and petulant pouting and posturing toward Russia and Putin is far more like going to war armed with a straw and a limited supply of spitballs.

Hey, DUMBASS, didn’t they teach you that it is not very healthy to try to bluff nuclear-armed ex-KGB colonels at community organizer school?

Tell you what, jackass, I’ll bet dollars to donuts that Putin will find (or create) some fairly transparent excuse to invade Ukraine within the next 6 months, and will take and annex all of Ukraine’s heavily industrialized areas. YOU will have been to blame, because of your empty threats you have been and are making. You are poking a nuke-armed grizzly bear with a sharp stick, and the results will not be even remotely good...YOU F’ING MORON.


35 posted on 03/28/2014 12:10:39 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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Yep. I mean, what other conclusion is there?

Next he’ll threaten to go tell his mommy. She’s no longer living, so maybe he’ll substitute Mrs. Farrakhan.


36 posted on 03/28/2014 12:18:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: traumer
Obama: "Russia must pull back troops from Ukraine border or I'll stomp my feet and have a tantrum. You ain't gonna like, either!"
37 posted on 03/28/2014 12:19:04 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: P-Marlowe

Good one...

And so much fertile ground for enhancement too. I’ll take a pass rather than get piled on. LOL


38 posted on 03/28/2014 12:19:37 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: traumer

“That ought to do it Ray”-Dr. Peter Venkman.


39 posted on 03/28/2014 12:19:59 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Ancesthntr

about 42 hours is my best guess.


40 posted on 03/28/2014 12:28:32 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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correction ... and prayers am wrong ... T-30 hours till russia moves.


41 posted on 03/28/2014 12:33:00 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: traumer

By Zen analogy to his speech the other day at the Euro conference, “what is the sound of one hand clapping?”

I don’t think anyone pays attention to O on the international scene.


42 posted on 03/28/2014 12:39:15 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: traumer

Putin to Obama...”Yeah you and what army”.


43 posted on 03/28/2014 1:04:25 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: traumer

Putin to Obama: “LOL.”


44 posted on 03/28/2014 1:06:37 PM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: traumer

what it said:
Obama: Russia must pull back troops from Ukraine border
what I read:

Obama: Russia must pull black troops from Ukraine border

nap time.........


45 posted on 03/28/2014 1:06:40 PM PDT by Einherjar
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“must”...or what? Clown Prince nobama and his Clown Car administration are completely feckless and limp.


46 posted on 03/28/2014 1:11:43 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Ancesthntr

Wow, what a great take-down of Bath House!

I really want Putin to school this tin-horn loudmouth - and Putin pummeling Bath House is almost unbearable to watch :)


47 posted on 03/28/2014 1:20:21 PM PDT by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: traumer

Clearly the little fellow hasn’t learned not to make demands that won’t be accommodated?


48 posted on 03/28/2014 2:52:37 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: no-to-illegals

Yeah, I hope you’re wrong, too, but I think not. I’m actually closer to the hours/days theory than 6 months, but sometimes these things take time. But time is very definitely limited for Ukraine. Its all about a very bad roll of the geopolitical dice...and nobody’s fault who is alive right now.


49 posted on 03/28/2014 3:11:47 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: bkopto
Wow, what a great take-down of Bath House!

I really want Putin to school this tin-horn loudmouth - and Putin pummeling Bath House is almost unbearable to watch :)

Thanks. I'd also like to see Bath House taken down a few notches...but only politically, because he's the President for all of us no matter how much that rankles us.

The problem we have is that this petulent little man-child, this girly-man who is very clearly gay or bi (which, while usually irrelevant, really pisses off old-world, macho guys like Putin), this telegenic guy with a gift for gab (and not much else, and only then with a functioning teleprompter), who has been given a pass or a promotion at every stage of his life BECAUSE he's half Black, who has NEVER had to do anything tough in his life and has never dealt with people like Putin - he can VERY easily miscalculate and get us into a shooting war with the Russkies. It is ALWAYS that way - the weak, contemptible little shits that somehow or other end up running big democracies and don't have a clue about how to play in a rough neighborhood - THEY are the ones that start wars. Their very weakness invites aggression and causes a naturally aggressive foreign leader to step JUST over the line that causes a war. You NEVER see this with a Reagan or a Churchill running things (and the only reason it happened with Thatcher was that she was both a woman and relatively new in office...that, and that the Argentines running the show there at that time were particularly stupid).

Batten down the hatches - there is a real risk of war extending into Europe if Czar Vladimir I decides to retake the Ukraine.

50 posted on 03/28/2014 3:27:59 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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