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Navy says goodbye to arson-damaged nuclear submarine at formal decommissioning ceremony
Fox News/AP ^ | March 28, 2014

Posted on 03/28/2014 11:20:00 AM PDT by kingattax

Edited on 03/28/2014 11:21:02 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

KITTERY, MAINE – The Navy has said goodbye to the fire-damaged USS Miami.

A formal decommissioning ceremony was held Friday at Portsmouth Naval Shipyard in Maine, where the nuclear-powered submarine was ravaged by a May 2012 fire set by a shipyard worker.


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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arson; fifthcolumn; nationalsecurity; nuclearsub; sabotage

1 posted on 03/28/2014 11:20:00 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

I thought it was an accident.


2 posted on 03/28/2014 11:20:49 AM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: kingattax

Who knows whether this was a rational decision, balancing the cost of repair against a new sub, or just one more Obama move to disarm the US.

I hadn’t heard that the fire was set, either.

Terrorism? Or mental problems? I suppose we’re unlikely to find out.


3 posted on 03/28/2014 11:23:46 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: kingattax

And the fire was deliberately set by an idiot who wanted to go home early...


4 posted on 03/28/2014 11:24:05 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: kingattax
fire set by a shipyard worker...

who is now doing serious time in federal prison.
5 posted on 03/28/2014 11:24:12 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar

Rated firing squad or keelhauling.


6 posted on 03/28/2014 11:25:24 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: Steely Tom

I don’t recall the exact details, but in essence a civilian worker wanted to take some time off, so he set a fire. It destroyed the sub.

I noticed in recent years that there is less and less quality control on workers employed on government projects. At my last company they were actively working on allowing convicted felons to work in the plant, to give them another chance. That attitude is pervading the defense industry and it’s driven directly by the government.


7 posted on 03/28/2014 11:26:15 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: kingattax

a real statement would have been a refit.


8 posted on 03/28/2014 11:26:53 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: kingattax

Why is the arsonist still breathing? TRAITOR!


9 posted on 03/28/2014 11:29:13 AM PDT by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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To: wally_bert

I wonder what the replacement cost is.

Too bad, even “donating” every usable organ from the idiot wouldn’t even put a dent in it.


10 posted on 03/28/2014 11:31:21 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Freeport; wally_bert

If he does more than 5 years, I’ll eat my hat.


11 posted on 03/28/2014 11:34:26 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: The Antiyuppie

Last I heard the cost of repairing the damage was half of what a complete new sub would have cost.

I think its the right thing, scrap it and start all over, a sub needs steel that has a known strength, fire damages steel, especially HY90 or stronger.

And I agree they should hang the guy or have him executed by a firing squad. A half a billion dollars of OUR money wasted by a guy that just wanted to get off work early, thats despicable in its lowest form.


12 posted on 03/28/2014 11:35:16 AM PDT by Spartan302
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To: Steely Tom
Really? It was in all the papers (and on FR)

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/07/26/worker-set-fire-to-submarine-so-he-could-leave-early/

13 posted on 03/28/2014 11:35:18 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: kingattax
Shipyard worker sentenced to 17 years for $400 million submarine fire (CNN)
14 posted on 03/28/2014 11:37:19 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Gen.Blather

“I don’t recall the exact details, but in essence a civilian worker wanted to take some time off...”

Looks as if he was quite successful in his quest for taking some time off.


15 posted on 03/28/2014 11:42:37 AM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Gen.Blather

I have no problem with giving ex-felons a second chance. They serve their time as a way of paying for their crime. Once the sentence is served, should they continue to pay for the rest of their lives?

Granted, if they screw up the second chance, I don’t know that they’d deserve much mercy the third time around.


16 posted on 03/28/2014 11:44:19 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Gen.Blather
Oh yeah. When I read the word "arson," I immediately thought "sabotage by a foreign agent."

I forgot that it actually was arson, but not (strictly speaking) sabotage.

17 posted on 03/28/2014 11:48:00 AM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: kingattax

Check for soetoro. Pass out candy.


18 posted on 03/28/2014 11:48:33 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: kingattax

I cannot remember where that worker was transferred to...was it the West Wing, or was it the IRS?

Or perhaps if he’s really crooked, was it the NSA?


19 posted on 03/28/2014 11:54:42 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: IronJack

“I have no problem with giving ex-felons a second chance.”

I’ve worked with several. In general, they’re charming and you can’t, on meeting them, imagine why they got in trouble. Some have serious drug problems. They’ll promise they’ll be in on Saturday and not show. They’ll have wonderful excuses, but they were hung over or still stoned. Others have poor decision making capability and they act impulsively to the detriment of everybody. Some become irrationally violent.

So, if you had a plant stuffed full of expensive, delicate material or equipment and processes you needed to keep confidential who would you like to hire, somebody who has never gotten themselves convicted of a felony or a former felon? Of the several former felons I’ve known and the ones I’ve known of, I’d never hire them again. But I’m certain some people do get better. The question is, do you want to hire them and take that risk? And, if they do hurt somebody on the job, say, by braking their jaw, what defense will you use when you get sued?


20 posted on 03/28/2014 11:56:38 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

death....from a SSN 649 vet.


21 posted on 03/28/2014 11:58:12 AM PDT by chasio649
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To: All

the yard in Kittery should go to the top of the BRAC list because of this..


22 posted on 03/28/2014 11:58:32 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: kingattax

All the problems with Subs began when they stopped naming them after fish. Dont mess with Neptune!!


23 posted on 03/28/2014 12:05:05 PM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles (Remember, you can't spell "progressive" without "SS".)
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To: Da Coyote

nope in prison-

Waiting for executive reprieve


24 posted on 03/28/2014 12:31:08 PM PDT by mj1234
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To: kingattax

WMUR coverage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOfohqMAWbo


25 posted on 03/28/2014 1:09:37 PM PDT by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: Gen.Blather

Yep. There are a lot of reasons not to hire them. It’s a matter of personal values. I’ve made my share of mistakes and I’m awfully glad someone was willing to take a chance on me. I’ve decided to pass that along.


26 posted on 03/28/2014 1:16:51 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: IronJack

“I’ve decided to pass that along.”

The problem as I see it is that we were not allowed to interview, look at records and make choices. The company I worked for had to hire 350 employees off the welfare roles. We didn’t have choices as to which ones. (The deal was the city gave us the plant for $1/year. They made up for it by charging $30,000/month for the electricity, though.) If we could have evaluated each man it probably would have been different, but that might have been “racist.” Although, the one actual on-the-floor fist fight was between two whites. But the drug tests failed only the blacks. The decision was made to stop drug testing as anything that divides people by race is automatically defined as racist. (Frankly, I think this was wrong and a mistake. We could have solved most of our problems by using drug testing.)

This was a defense plant and that’s probably not the place to put an ex-con you can’t evaluate. Some of the employees got angry at management and numerous sealed units came back filled with urine. It had to be introduced on the production line. It cost thousands of dollars.

I’m glad your situation worked out. Bless you.


27 posted on 03/28/2014 1:26:59 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: IronJack

Oh, you know, I forgot what is probably the most important point. None of these former convicts wanted a job. They were perfectly happy on welfare. They were angry and resentful. It was obvious and that is probably the thing I’d look for if hiring a former convict.

I have a Christian friend who runs Classic Consoles. He hires only ex-cons (roughly 30) and has a wonderful record. I spent several hours there and from watching the body language I got the impression that at least one and probably two of the men keep everything honest and calm.


28 posted on 03/28/2014 1:45:36 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: SpaceBar

“who is now doing serious time in federal prison. “

Should have been hung on a gibbet erected on the Washington Mall with live coverage by all of the networks.


29 posted on 03/28/2014 2:05:00 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Spartan302

Um... the manufacturer gets paid by the US Treasury upon receipt of the good. This is an issue between the shipyard and the contractor.


30 posted on 03/28/2014 8:36:52 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Freeport

If someone had died in the fire he would have been charged with murder.


31 posted on 03/29/2014 6:58:56 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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