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Harry Reid: Why, I never said Republican stories about ObamaCare were lies
CainTV.com ^ | March 28, 2014 | Herman Cain

Posted on 03/28/2014 5:53:55 PM PDT by Kaslin

Whatever could you be talking about?

You have to see this one to believe it, folks. In fact, even that might not be enough. I've seen it, and I can't believe it. I yield to no one in my subterranean opinion of Harry Reid, but how can you . . . what could possibly lead you to . . . who would ever think they could get away with . . . just watch:

Harry Reid Says He Never Called ObamaCare Stories Lies

Seriously, what is this? We all know Reid is shameless and will say anything, presumably operating on the theory that the media will never call him out, no matter what he says. But . . . this?

I tried to come up with a scenario in which he had honestly forgotten having said it, but with as much coverage as it received, there is really no way you can find that theory plausible, unless he is simply not all there in some way that's above my pay grade to diagnose. Maybe someone just writes this stuff for him and he just gets up there and reads it and really doesn't give too much thought to what's he's saying. It's entirely possible that he doesn't read the conservative media that repeated his statement for weeks on end, but surely he has aides savvy enough to keep an eye on these things, and who would know that he couldn't get up and deny what there is clear video evidence of his having done, yes?

Or . . . is Reid just amusing himself here? Is he so confident that the media will never call him out that he is willing to get up and say something this brazen - knowing full well that everyone's jaws are dropping - and simply walk away grinning and muttering under his breath, "You'll never catch me"?

All I know is this: Ladies and gentlemen, this is the leader of the United States Senate. If you are not recoiling in horror at that realization, I do not know what else to tell you.


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1 posted on 03/28/2014 5:53:55 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
First, I want to make it very clear that Harry Reid is a liar.

Secondly, I would like to say that I never called Harry Reid a liar.

2 posted on 03/28/2014 5:55:27 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Kaslin

He lied the first time and he lied the second time. See the pattern?


3 posted on 03/28/2014 5:57:39 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Liar! I read what you wrote. :)


4 posted on 03/28/2014 5:59:00 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: Kaslin
Harry Reid:" Why, I never said Republican stories about ObamaCare were lies"

Two reasons :
Brain Fart !
Ole TImers !

5 posted on 03/28/2014 5:59:06 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: ClearCase_guy

As a (very) old hand here, I must acknowledge that your posts over the years are good and...you are (very) funny.

Bless you!


6 posted on 03/28/2014 6:00:25 PM PDT by esopman (Blessings on Freepers Everywhere and Their Most Intelligent Designer)
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To: esopman

shucks!


7 posted on 03/28/2014 6:01:29 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Kaslin
THird Reason :Harry Reid:" Why, I never said Republican stories about ObamaCare were lies"

Habitual liar with no social redeaming conscience
Brain dead psychophant !

8 posted on 03/28/2014 6:01:38 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Kaslin

How did a guy who spent his life in “public service” become a multimillionaire?


9 posted on 03/28/2014 6:02:35 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Kaslin

There was a lot of coverage on his quote, true. However it’d be easy for him to avoid it. He probably sticks to CNNABCNBCCBS. I’m sure they didn’t report on it.


10 posted on 03/28/2014 6:02:37 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (I'd use the /S tag but is it really necessary?)
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To: Kaslin
The senile twit should not be allowed access to a sharp pencil.
11 posted on 03/28/2014 6:04:29 PM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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To: Kaslin

HaHa! Well, he did say, “...to my recollection...”

Too funny...


12 posted on 03/28/2014 6:07:34 PM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Hatteras

Dingy needs to be collected and recollected until he is gone.


13 posted on 03/28/2014 6:10:02 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Kaslin

14 posted on 03/28/2014 6:11:34 PM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Secondly, I would like to say that I never called Harry Reid a liar.

Well, I was pretty sure I remembered you saying he was a liar. But if you say not then maybe I just misremembered.

15 posted on 03/28/2014 6:12:06 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Kaslin

when Obamas big mega-lie “if you like your plan you can keep your plan” was first exposed as a lie, the first thing he tried was to deny he ever said it. Then he tried to water it down with “I meant you could keep it as long as it meets govt standards” or some other such bogus arguments. Then finally he just stopped talking about it altogether (and of course the MSM liars stopped asking about it).

So maybe Harry “The Ritz” Reid will follow that same game plan.


16 posted on 03/28/2014 6:12:12 PM PDT by uncitizen (Impeach the Communist Already!)
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To: Kaslin

“The internet is an inconvenient truth. I never should have invented it when I was starring in the movie `Love Story’ at Harvard—with my future wife, Morgan Fairchild.”
Alvin Gore VIII


17 posted on 03/28/2014 6:13:33 PM PDT by tumblindice (Are all Democrats inveterate, habitual liars?)
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To: Kaslin

But...But...


18 posted on 03/28/2014 6:14:24 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: RightGeek
How did a guy who spent his life in “public service” become a multimillionaire?

Becoming a multimillionaire through a lifetime of graft is one thing, but living at the Ritz is rubbing our noses in it.

He's all for the little guy, doncha know.

19 posted on 03/28/2014 6:14:26 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Kaslin

I’m amazed (a) that the Dems allow that tool to be one of their most prominent politicians, (b) that the Mormons allow that tool to be one of their most prominent public figures and arguably their single most prominent politician, and (c) that that tool hasn’t wound up in a hole somewhere in the outback of southern Nevada.


20 posted on 03/28/2014 6:16:02 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: RightGeek
How did a guy who spent his life in “public service” become a multimillionaire?

Just like Mayor Daley (1) of Chicago, he brought his lunch to work.

21 posted on 03/28/2014 6:18:28 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: smoothsailing

Yikes! There is a troll hiding behind Harry’s right shoulder. I wonder if he knows. Maybe that is the one whispering into Harry’s ear all the crazy things he should say.


22 posted on 03/28/2014 6:36:56 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: Kaslin

Ol’ Harry is trying the Jedi Mind Trick.


23 posted on 03/28/2014 6:43:26 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Kaslin

He needs an attitude adjustment, by those he has slandered.


24 posted on 03/28/2014 6:43:56 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Kaslin

Why should he care if he lied or not?
It’s not like anybody at CNN/NBC/MSBC/ABC/CBS/WashPost/NYTimes/Pacifica/The DailyShow/Colbert/TheView/E! etc. is going to call him out for it, (Not if they want to keep those cushy media jobs, at least).


25 posted on 03/28/2014 6:45:09 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Kaslin

I have written about 5 replies(I have closed my posting comments) to this ***** but feel I will get banned from FR which I have avoided for 15 years. This guy has ceded all credibility with his Romney has not paid taxes comment. Lying is not only a part and partial of his makeup, it is who he is.


26 posted on 03/28/2014 6:57:53 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
He lied the first time and he lied the second time. See the pattern?

He's a MORMON?

27 posted on 03/28/2014 6:59:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
He's a MORMON? You have one too many M's there.
28 posted on 03/28/2014 7:00:18 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Moorings
There is a troll hiding behind Harry’s right shoulder.

I don't know if you noticed, but there is one behind his left shoulder too. Could it be.....DiLauro?

29 posted on 03/28/2014 7:00:47 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: smoothsailing

Wait!

I have a burning in my bosom!!!

30 posted on 03/28/2014 7:00:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Starstruck

... it is who he is.


31 posted on 03/28/2014 7:02:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: dfwgator

32 posted on 03/28/2014 7:03:46 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: dfwgator

(Ignore the green one; giving you the 3rd finger away from his little one.)


33 posted on 03/28/2014 7:04:21 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Gabrial

We should all sent him sharp pencils.


34 posted on 03/28/2014 7:52:01 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Kaslin

Harry Reid is a senile old bastard. Yes,Harry, I did say it and I won’t lie that I didn’t say you are.


35 posted on 03/28/2014 8:07:10 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: Kaslin

I know you think you heard what you thought I said, but what I said is not what you think you heard, even if I said what you think you heard.


36 posted on 03/28/2014 8:20:34 PM PDT by Rocky (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. George Orwell)
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To: Kaslin
I've spent all of my evenings these last few months in the memory unit of an assisted care facility and have seen quite a lot of that sort of behavior and denial.

Sad when it happens, but maybe he can get some help before it progresses too far.

He might want to look into getting some early care and please, take gal pal Nancy along. She's also showing all the signs.

37 posted on 03/28/2014 8:32:30 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Kaslin

The people of Nevada must be so proud!


38 posted on 03/28/2014 8:46:29 PM PDT by falcon99
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To: Kaslin

The man is simply insane....


39 posted on 03/28/2014 9:00:47 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Of course he is so...he’s a DIM/LIB.


40 posted on 03/28/2014 9:22:43 PM PDT by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp)
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To: Army Air Corps

Brilliantly put! This period in American government should honestly be written in the history books as the Jedi Mind Trick Era. They lie to us, then wave the hand in front of us saying, “What I just told you is the truth. You needn’t question it.”


41 posted on 03/28/2014 9:58:33 PM PDT by mbennett203 ("Bulrog, a tough brute ninja who has dedicated his life to eradicating the world from hippies.")
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To: Kaslin
He is exercising his power and control. He'll lie, then say he didn't lie, which is also a lie.
Hubris or Ego, he's in his world and nobody can stop him, or Will. Pathetic Voters.
42 posted on 03/28/2014 10:18:53 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: ExCTCitizen

How dare you insult senile old bastards:-)


43 posted on 03/28/2014 10:36:26 PM PDT by Kevin in California
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To: Rocky

He gets it honest...


 
"I Don't Know..."
 
 
 
 
 In case you don't recognize the title of this post, it is part of President Hinckley's answer to a reporter's question that appeared in the August 4 1997 issue of Time magazine. The reporter referenced the King Follett discourse. The answer supplied and the manner in which it was delivered caused the reporter to draw some false conclusions about a very important doctrine.

In that discourse, the prophet Joseph Smith said, "If the veil were rent today, and the great God who holds this world in its orbit, and who upholds all worlds and all things by His power, was to make himself visible—I say, if you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in form—like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man." (See also D&C 130:22)

The article referred to Lorenzo Snow's couplet, "As man is now, God once was; as God now is, man may become." The reporter said, "God the Father was once a man as we are. This is something that Christian writers are always addressing." President Hinckley was then asked, "Is this the teaching of the church today, that God the Father was once a man like we are?"

The bothersome reply

"I don't know that we teach it. I don't know that we emphasize it. I haven't heard it discussed for a long time in public discourse. I don't know. I don't know all the circumstances under which that statement was made. I understand the philosophical background behind it, but I don't know a lot about it, and I don't think others know a lot about it."

The reporter wrote, "On whether his church still holds that God the Father was once a man, he sounded uncertain." That's an unfortunate conclusion. Of course I wasn't at the interview and neither were you but I'll bet the reporter mistook careful thoughtfulness for uncertainty. This doctrine is indeed deep territory and not something that is taught outside the LDS Church.



An earlier and similar interview

The San Francisco Chronicle, published an interview with President Hinckley in April of 1997. The reporter asked, "There are some significant differences in your beliefs. For instance, don't Mormon's believe that God was once a man?" President Hinckley responded, "I wouldn't say that. There is a little couplet coined, 'As man is, God once was. As God is, man may become.'"

He then said, "Now that's more of a couplet than anything else. That gets into some pretty deep theology that we don't know very much about." The reporter pounced on this. "So you're saying that the church is still struggling to understand this? " President Hinckley responded, "Well, as God is, man may become. We believe in eternal progression. Very strongly."

President Hinckley's response

President Hinckley said in October 1997 General Conference: "I personally have been much quoted, and in a few instances misquoted and misunderstood. I think that's to be expected. None of you need worry because you read something that was incompletely reported. You need not worry that I do not understand some matters of doctrine.

"I think I understand them thoroughly, and it is unfortunate that the reporting may not make this clear. I hope you will never look to the public press as the authority on the doctrines of the Church." And there lies the whole point of my post today. Some members did indeed become a little concerned by the exchanges they read in the press reports of those interviews.

Does the Church still teach this?

I know this is old news but it still bothers some people when they discover the anti-Mormon attacks floating around on the Internet. President Hinckley was right. We really don't know much about how our Heavenly Father became a God. The idea that he passed through a mortal probationary state like you and me is certainly not documented in any scripture of which I know.

However, it is still taught. In the Gospel Principles manual in the chapter on exaltation we read, "Joseph Smith taught: "It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the character of God. . . . He was once a man like us; . . . God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pp. 345-46)."

Summary and conclusion

I don't know why this should bother anyone. The doctrine is true. Joseph Smith knew a whole lot more about this than I do. President Hinckley also knew a whole lot more about this doctrine than he was willing to share with reporters who did not have the background to understand it. It must have been difficult for President Hinckley to hold back and not teach it in those interviews.

It didn't bother me when I read the interviews back in 1997 and it doesn't bother me today. However, I know it does bother some people. We each have trials of our faith. I have never depended on an intellectual understanding of the gospel in order to accept it and live it. There are some things that just can't be fully comprehended without the temple, prayer and faith.



There are some things that just can't be fully comprehended without the temple, prayer and faith.

44 posted on 03/29/2014 12:34:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: falcon99
The people of Nevada must be so proud!

The people of BYU are...


http://www.deseretnews.com/article/695217316/Reid-gets-warm-reception-at-BYU.html?pg=all

45 posted on 03/29/2014 12:38:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kevin in California
How dare you insult senile old bastards:-)


46 posted on 03/29/2014 12:41:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

How did a guy who.....become a multimillionaire? And apparently only owns one tie?


47 posted on 03/29/2014 12:45:49 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Kaslin

Obamacare end-stage dementia. H.e has it!


48 posted on 03/29/2014 12:51:43 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Kaslin
The guy is senile!
49 posted on 03/29/2014 1:58:24 AM PDT by vigilante2 (Re-elect nobody)
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To: Safetgiver
And apparently only owns one tie?

WHAT!!??!!


 
I've got PLENTY of ties; whippersnapper!!
 
 
https://www.google.com/search?q=Harry+Reid&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-ContextMenu&rlz=1I7ADRA_enUS475&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=C5U2U6uEFceBqwGDsIHoCg&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1366&bih=571

50 posted on 03/29/2014 2:46:00 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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