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White House and Kremlin seem to have different recollections of Obama-Putin call
Wash Post ^ | 3-28-2014 | Adam Taylor

Posted on 03/28/2014 6:58:05 PM PDT by tcrlaf

On Friday, Russian President Vladimir Putin and U.S. President Barack Obama spoke on the phone. Given recent tensions over Ukraine and Crimea, dialogue seems like a good thing. However, were the two presidents really talking to each other? After reading the two official statements about the call, it sounds like they got some wires crossed or something.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: adamtaylor; crimea; momjeans; obama; obamatheidiot; putin; russia; thecatcher; ukraine
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To: tcrlaf

Putin’s “curing” Zero’s weak liberalism with Strong Communism...


41 posted on 03/28/2014 8:15:24 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: caww
"Obama is a liar, So why should any be "baffled" when he does so to make his case against Putin. He sure hasn't corrected past lies with the truth....he won't this either."

He is also a liar, when he claims that Crimea independence and its reintegration in the Russian Federation "are breaking the international law". There is no legal reason whatsoever to put sanctions on Russia.

The International Court of Justice, supreme arbiter in matters of international law, in 2010 ruled that the declaration of independence of Kosovo had been legal – and also, more generally, that throughout history, declarations of independence are never in conflict with international law. The judges said that the 20th century declarations of independence have been regarded as compatible and indeed supported by international law in the name of the principal of self-determination. So Crimea's declaration of independence is perfectly valid, as valid as it was the United States declaration of independence from England.

42 posted on 03/28/2014 8:16:32 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: tcrlaf
The Kremlin said in a statement that the Russian president drew Mr Obama’s attention to “the continued rampage of extremists” in Kiev and various regions of Ukraine.

It said these individuals were “committing acts of intimidation towards peaceful residents, government authorities and law enforcement agencies... with impunity”.

Mr Putin suggested examining possible steps the global community could take to help stabilise the situation, the Kremlin statement said.

He also expressed concern at an “effective blockade” of Moldova’s separatist region of Trans-Dniester, where Russia has troops.”

This is Putin projecting.

He is probably going to go into the Ukraine for the "good of the people there," and solve the problems of the so-called extremists, and he is probably going to go to Moldova to break the blockade.

That's what his forces are mobilizing on the borders for.

The Obama admin doesn't see it, and neither do the press lackeys that lick his heals.

43 posted on 03/28/2014 8:20:01 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Red Steel

There are five year olds more capable of foreign policy than Obama is.


44 posted on 03/28/2014 8:27:42 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: tcrlaf

This should clear the matter up.

It was recorded:

http://www.nbc.com/the-tonight-show/segments/2871


45 posted on 03/28/2014 8:29:12 PM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent / Cruz 2016)
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To: Viennacon

Americanski is more of an adjective to describe something. Americanitz would be the person who is an american.


46 posted on 03/28/2014 8:31:18 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: tcrlaf
Putin to Obama:

"I like my Black Sea peninsula, and I will keep it. Seriously..."

47 posted on 03/28/2014 8:31:44 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: tcrlaf

I recall that there were discrepancies in stories when Kerry “negotiated” with Iran. Kerry detailed sanctions and a commitment to abandon the nuke development program, and Iran said, what sanctions? The US lifted sanctions, gave us money, and we continue our program!


48 posted on 03/28/2014 8:47:09 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: DTogo

“I like my Black Sea peninsula, and I will keep it. Seriously...”

Crimeans like it too that way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmi7dQP3Wx0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v93sSoZlvA


49 posted on 03/28/2014 8:54:23 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite

Bottom line...a bird in hand...Crimea went with Russia willingly. ..and I don’t buy for a minute, as some have attempted to say, it was at the end of a gun. International observers and many others attest to the fair reporting of the results....and even id you remove a percentage they still went with Russia.

I think Obama and the Eu are just plenty peeved they could do nothing to stop Crimea from what it ultimately chose to do.

All this legality will be worked behind the scenes for years perhaps....but clearly the Us/EU and Russia were all willing to break International Law from the beginning of this entire affair....They just choose to interpret it as they will and are doing now.


50 posted on 03/28/2014 9:09:31 PM PDT by caww
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To: tcrlaf

Putin should be offering Bammy a free month’s stay on the Black Sea Beaches of Crimea.


51 posted on 03/28/2014 9:13:20 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Mike Darancette

I think you are correct. The one guy golf clapping at that European recent speech probably snapped something.


52 posted on 03/28/2014 9:14:04 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: tcrlaf

Hate to say it, but I’d more likely believe Putin than the liar-in-chief of our poor beleagered country.


53 posted on 03/28/2014 9:14:51 PM PDT by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos! Thank you David, Michael, Chris Txradioguy, JJ, CMS, & ALL Vets, too!l)
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To: caww

“Bottom line...a bird in hand...Crimea went with Russia willingly. ..and I don’t buy for a minute, as some have attempted to say, it was at the end of a gun. International observers and many others attest to the fair reporting of the results....and even id you remove a percentage they still went with Russia.”

Russia National anthem sung to celebrate Crimea referendum in Simferopol, on March 17; 20,000 people were thre.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiZGZ4hSnI4


54 posted on 03/28/2014 9:22:29 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: caww

Sevastopol Celebrates Referendum Results To Join Russia, 95.7% of Crimeans Voted To Join Russia

http://youtu.be/Qixiy6uY950


55 posted on 03/28/2014 9:27:02 PM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite
Very moving....some so full of pride, others even tearful. A ‘huge’ historical moment for these people...to them they are “Home”.

It's not hard to understand why Russian people are proud now..and Putin's ratings so high. Putin accomplished this in one of the most astounding and brilliant strategies executed ..... even our Military has said as much. It's very interesting reading and hearing some of their comments. They don't like Putin but they do respect the maneuvers Putin executed to accomplish his goal. Thank you for sharing this Marguerite.....they are right to celebrate....and I can say I saw this Historic moment.

Did you see the videos of the Crimea residents who went to Moscow for the signing. The ones taken by their own camera man to record it as they wanted?...I wanted to see the signing and the people...and Parliament members.....interesting to see them chatting beforehand. I saw more of the Kremlin in their videos than I've seen on line! What a work of art it is....and sooo Russian Style. Beautiful workmanship.

56 posted on 03/28/2014 9:50:30 PM PDT by caww
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To: TomGuy

Zero and his administration practice taqqiya, that’s all.


57 posted on 03/28/2014 10:29:19 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG

They don’t need to practice it. They’ve mastered it.


58 posted on 03/28/2014 10:33:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: LibFreeUSA

I never thought the day would come when I could trust what the Russian leader said more than my own President.


59 posted on 03/28/2014 10:39:13 PM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Mike Darancette

Stalin had no problem slaughtering between 2 and 4 million. And that was before WWII even started. I don’t see anything holding Putin back.


60 posted on 03/28/2014 10:42:33 PM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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