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California: By the way, that bullet train isnít actually going to be as fast as we said it would be
Hot Air ^ | March 28, 2014 | Erika Johnsen

Posted on 03/28/2014 9:18:01 PM PDT by george76

When California first put the issue of building a high-speed bullet train between Los Angeles and San Francisco before voters, Gov. Jerry Brown made all sorts of nifty-sounding promises about how efficient, convenient, and fiscally sound a choice the rail line would be for Californians.

All of those promises have more or less turned out to be a sham by now, as the train’s costs have exploded and its deadlines pushed way back, and now it appears that that less-than-three-hour ride Californians were originally promised… well, probably isn’t.

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who really considers a mounting “wall of debt” and a slew of unfunded pension liabilities a crisis?

(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: agenda21; boondoggle; bullettrain; california; highspeedrail; highspeedtrain; highspeedtrains; jerrybrown; losangeles; masstransit; sanfrancisco; train; un21; williegreen
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1 posted on 03/28/2014 9:18:01 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

The Bullet Train To Nowhere.

Film at 11.


2 posted on 03/28/2014 9:22:14 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: george76

It can’t go slower than promised because the ballot measure we passed requires it to.


3 posted on 03/28/2014 9:24:48 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Yes, You are always right /S)
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To: george76
Paying for this:

Getting this:


4 posted on 03/28/2014 9:25:53 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: george76

Going to nowhere, fast.


5 posted on 03/28/2014 9:27:34 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: ThomasThomas

It will never be built. Its the White Elephant of Trains. It doesn’t come anywhere near to justifying its exorbitant price tag.

Only liberals could love 19th Century transportation technology. This is the 21st Century version of the buggy and whip. Its dated.

And no one wants it.


6 posted on 03/28/2014 9:29:20 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: george76

They need to call Joe Isuzu!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FE-XurEfQo


7 posted on 03/28/2014 9:29:59 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: george76

It’s going to be decades before the train runs slow.


8 posted on 03/28/2014 9:30:13 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: george76

Nothing but an enormous land-grab scam.


9 posted on 03/28/2014 9:30:32 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: GeronL

Willie Green Memorial Ping.


10 posted on 03/28/2014 9:38:15 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: george76

The bullit train is only a mechanism to launder money. It doesn’t have to work as promised.


11 posted on 03/28/2014 9:41:38 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: george76

It was just another tidal wave of bullcrap from Calli politicians as usual. Bullet train my ass!

This entire project should be killed along with the careers of any and all of these idiots who are responsible for this boondoggle.


12 posted on 03/28/2014 10:01:06 PM PDT by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Or Barak Isuuzu


13 posted on 03/28/2014 10:08:27 PM PDT by Cheapskate (Play loud and carry BIG sticks!)
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To: Bullish

Do the math. $120,000,000,000/12,000,000 families in California = a brand new $10,000 car for every family in California. The $10,000 assumes a bulk discount when the state of Ca gives the purchase order for 12,000,000 autos to Toyota.


14 posted on 03/28/2014 10:11:31 PM PDT by robert14 (cng)
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To: Paladin2

The reason bullet trains won’t work in this country is that it will take special track, completely segregated from all access. That means 20ft fencing the whole way to keep idiots from throwing objects at the train to see what will happen.


15 posted on 03/28/2014 10:12:02 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Army Air Corps

Kudos. I was wondering if there would be a Willie Green reference here.


16 posted on 03/28/2014 10:14:21 PM PDT by FreedomOfExpression
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To: george76

The only thing high speed about this is Dianne Feinstein’s ballooning bank account.


17 posted on 03/28/2014 10:20:13 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: robert14

10k doesn’t buy much of a car these days. But a boondoggle bullet train will funnel lots and lots of taxpayer money to unions, and lots of that money will end up in the democrats campaign coffers.

That’s really all this whole thing is all about.


18 posted on 03/28/2014 10:23:10 PM PDT by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: UCANSEE2

Nerf Train


19 posted on 03/28/2014 10:23:53 PM PDT by PLMerite
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To: robert14

You mean Chevrolet, not Toyota, I think.

Government Motors could make the Kali’s a hell of a deal as long as the US is still intact and not broken up into several parts.


20 posted on 03/28/2014 10:26:04 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: george76

Boy, no one saw this coming.


21 posted on 03/28/2014 10:42:17 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: george76

In fact, its not even a train.

Its a panelled van stuffed with Mexicans.


22 posted on 03/28/2014 11:21:01 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: george76

One way plane ticket from Los Angeles to San Francisco $69
Flight time: 1/hr 25/mins

Train ticket $100,000,000,000 <- Carl Sagan billions & billions


23 posted on 03/28/2014 11:23:56 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: minnesota_bound
Here's a money saving idea that I think most Californians would go for:

We give the union leaders 1 million dollars each, and no train will be built. And we'll even forget the idea came up.

Deal?

24 posted on 03/28/2014 11:34:51 PM PDT by boop (I just wanted a President. But I got a rock.)
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To: Army Air Corps

Always good for a lol


25 posted on 03/28/2014 11:35:17 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: goldstategop

26 posted on 03/28/2014 11:36:40 PM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: george76
Got to hand it to Gov. Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown: a superduper high speed bullet train that runs from nowhere to noplace. A train that's slower than anticipated!

Who'd have thought all the billions of dollars spent (and programmed to be spent) and the Donkeys still can't get 19th century technology to work?

27 posted on 03/29/2014 2:07:10 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: george76
Is it any wonder that railroads played a major part in Atlas Shrugs?
28 posted on 03/29/2014 2:12:50 AM PDT by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: ThomasThomas

Pelosi: “We have to pass this bill to see how fast this train really goes”.


29 posted on 03/29/2014 3:15:57 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: USNBandit
I'd love to see the liberals pitch that fence as an ironclad deterrent while telling us no border fence will ever work.
30 posted on 03/29/2014 3:19:36 AM PDT by Rastus
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To: george76

High speed rail is like solar energy a scam to send money to state to fund and pay off other people or programs.


31 posted on 03/29/2014 4:06:24 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Im missing a jumbo jet with 235 passengers has anyone seen it?)
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To: george76

Probably for the best - who wants to be going high speed, on rails, in an area known for so many earthquakes?


32 posted on 03/29/2014 5:27:34 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: george76

Can someone do the math for me? What’s a 3hr10min trip between LA and SF, in terms of average mph?


33 posted on 03/29/2014 5:31:15 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: george76

If you like your train speed, you can keep your train speed.


34 posted on 03/29/2014 6:03:40 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: 1rudeboy
What’s a 3hr10min trip between LA and SF, in terms of average mph?

It depends.

If you start from L.A. and go NORTH, it's 380 miles in 190 min, that's 2 miles/min or 120 MPH.

If you start from L.A. and go SOUTH, it's 25000 miles in 190 min, that's 131 miles/min, or about 8000 MPH.

35 posted on 03/29/2014 6:08:05 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: george76

It won’t be as fast, but it will be three times more expensive.


36 posted on 03/29/2014 6:11:46 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

The Willie Green memorial train ping. :’)

Thanks george76.


37 posted on 03/29/2014 6:13:42 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alreadyposted/index)
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Of course, the best part about this will be the precedent-setting strike by the drivers and crewmembers who haven’t even been hired yet but want better working conditions, pay, and benefits.


38 posted on 03/29/2014 6:14:59 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alreadyposted/index)
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To: george76

The only way the bullet train could work is if the tracks went out of California.


39 posted on 03/29/2014 7:16:56 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: SunkenCiv

The MoonBeam eXpre$$ courtesy of aRnolD SchwarzenKennedy

hurtling illegals from the border to the valley fields..

at the speed of a semi- loaded with melons and pot.

a unholy symbiotic relationship that foots the bill

out of the pocketbooks of folk that will never ride it.

a black hole right here in California?

Yes, Virginia, they do exist.


40 posted on 03/29/2014 9:17:47 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_1A_(2008)

The California Bullet Train And The Impervious Jerry Brown

More than half of Californians oppose an expensive rail project supported by Gov. Jerry Brown that would take riders between Los Angeles and San Francisco in less than three hours. That doesn’t seem to bother Brown — and it doesn’t seem to be hurting him either.

posted on March 27, 2014 at 11:17pm EDT

Hunter Schwarz

http://www.buzzfeed.com/hunterschwarz/the-california-bullet-train-and-the-impervious-jerry-brown


41 posted on 03/29/2014 9:42:48 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alreadyposted/index)
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To: george76
America's "high speed rail"


42 posted on 03/29/2014 9:46:30 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: Bullish
10k doesn’t buy much of a car these days. But a boondoggle bullet train will funnel lots and lots of taxpayer money to unions, and lots of that money will end up in the democrats campaign coffers. That’s really all this whole thing is all about.

Ding, ding, ding - we have a thread winnah!!!

43 posted on 03/29/2014 10:43:23 AM PDT by GOPJ (Save Your Country , Fire A Democrat - freeper molso209)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Yeah, good luck with those speeds.

It's been discussed before, but in order to get up to 100 mph, you need time, and you can't slow down to 20 mph every 30 miles to safely pass through small towns.

First, because it's not legal, second, because it's not safe, third, unless you want to get off in these small towns, it's completely worthless.

A bullet train from LA to Vegas makes sense.

And I could actually see it making a profit.

To Gov. Moonbeam: RE-THINK this!

You can pay your union goon masters their tribute and actually create something of value.

Seriously. How many old fogeys take buses to Atlantic City out of Philadelphia? Lotsa.

Now imagine selling the fogeys on a train that will get you to Vegas in a couple of hours.

And get you home in a reasonable time.

Win-win.

And I'll bet the Vegas casinos would chip in for some of the costs.

44 posted on 03/29/2014 7:16:37 PM PDT by boop (I just wanted a President. But I got a rock.)
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To: boop

Anyone that’s driven the 15 on Friday night to Vegas or Sunday night back to LA knows there’s money in a bullet train back and forth.


45 posted on 03/30/2014 9:41:19 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Domandred

Two lines to Barstow. One from Burbank one from Ontario..

One line from Barstow to Vegas.

Gambling on the train

Gov should go to Nevada and meet with Vegas mayor, nv governor and hotel owners. $5 per day room tax.

No public funds except right of way planning and environmental report.


46 posted on 03/30/2014 9:48:28 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: george76
They converted a bunch of railroad tracks in my area into "rail trails". I take my dog walking there. Don't have to worry about getting hit by a car though sometimes those bicyclists can get pretty close. Jogging moms pushing baby carriages in front of them present a minor hazard as well. Other than that, a very pleasurable walk in most any kind of weather.


47 posted on 03/30/2014 9:54:10 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: george76
By the way, that bullet train isn’t actually going to be as fast as we said it would be.

By the way, that _______________ isn’t actually going to be as ___________ as we said it would be.

POLITICS 101


48 posted on 03/30/2014 4:18:58 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boop

Please!

Run for President next time!!!!

The Gordian knot has been riven asunder!


49 posted on 03/30/2014 4:21:13 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: 1rudeboy
What’s a 3hr10min trip between LA and SF, in terms of average mph?

The math will be a bit fuzzy; because there is some time spent doing enjoyable things in a TERMINAL at each end of the trip.

50 posted on 03/30/2014 4:22:38 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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