Skip to comments.After Sandy, feds mull plan for artificial islands off New jersey, New York
Posted on 03/29/2014 8:21:02 AM PDT by don-o
SEASIDE HEIGHTS, N.J. A string of artificial islands off the coast of New Jersey and New York could blunt the impact of storm surges that proved so deadly during Superstorm Sandy, according to a proposal vying for attention and funding as the region continues its recovery.
It's a big proposal that would cost $10 billion to $12 billion. But it's also the kind of innovative idea that federal officials requested as they consider how best to protect the heavily populated region from future storms.
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First, double, possibly triple the estimated “cost”..and then add $1 billion a year for ongoing replenishment..
Get the Dutch involved — they know a lot about building artificial islands. See what they did in the Emirates.
I'll buy this... especially if they can utilize Tsunami and MH370 wreckage.
MOVE INLAND! I don’t want to pay taxes so you can rebuild you vacation/regular home over and over again.
I would say “possibly” to this, if they did it right.
In the ancient world, they were already aware of a big problem with artificial ports was that they tended to accumulate silt over time, eventually becoming non-navigable.
So they were able to design such ports so that the ocean currents would continually flush silt out of them.
However, in the case of the east coast, what they want are offshore islands that accumulate silt beyond their basic frame, and even beyond that, so it can be dredged and raise the islands a significant height above sea level.
Once above sea level, then the silt could have support members and concrete added to it to make it much more resistant to tidal surges.
I guarantee somebody will stick a couple of Ferris Wheels out there, maybe even another casino.
Shortly after they are finished, with the help of labor unions, they will find that the islands contribute to:
1) global warming
2) erosion to their north and south
3) the demise of the New Jersey Scrungefish
4) blocking the view
5) less winds to cool people on the beach
6) increased snow storms in the winter
7) more Republican votes
8) confusion among muzzlems looking for mecca
9) decreased numbers of illegal immigrants
10) increased respect for America throughout the world
For all of these reasons, and to stimulate jobs for labor unions, we will need to spend $50 billion to remove the islands. Upon further review, and consultation with labor unions, they will find that none of those ten reasons were actually valid, so the islands will be rebuilt at a cost of $100 billion.
... and then the rich will build homes on them & then we will have to build additional islands to protect the islands built to protect the shore...
I see a pattern here
Too stoopid for me (and my wallet)
Seaside and much of what people think of as the Jersey Shore is built on barrier islands. Yes, these are natural islands that they’re talking about building artificial ones to protect!
Swimming in the bays behind the islands isn’t as nice as the ocean so the barrier islands will always be built up. Just need to be prepared for things to get wiped out every few dozen years.
Time to withdraw.
Nature bats last
"It's turtles all the way down!"
If anyone wants to see the unintended consequences of this one just has tovisit Kailua and Lanikai beaches on Oahu’s windward side. To protect the beach houses the sand dunes were bulldozed and huge sea walls were placed between the beaches. One beach is flowing away, Kailua, and Lani Kai is unswimmable from so much filth that was normally swept away by the currents.
Nature bats last. That’s a nice motto!
Nature bats last. That’s a nice motto!
Not to mention that other stench: dredged up sand to create these islands. Living at the Jersey Shore can be strange.
To hamstring such a project, the carbon output necessary to accomplish it would be shown to just make those “superstorms” even worse. :’) Thanks don-o.
According to Buck Perry, this would be considered structure, so that would be a good thing. Just tell anybody about it.
The Big Dig - Part 2 ?
Too bad they couldn’t use what they dug out of Big Dig One to make Big Dig Two.
A barrier island for the barrier islands.
Let’s build those before we build the fence on the southern border that we were promised 7 years ago.
Careful they all might just tip over....
Must be imported Philadelphia legislators coming up with this crap
Let me get this straight-
Feds will build islands to stop
a hurricane that is TEN MILES HIGH!!
good luck with that plan.
Note that the federal Natural Response Plan of 2004 was justified partly because of the Congressional Act of 1803. This act provided relief for a fire in Portsmouth, New Hampshire.
However, note that the feds had probably bought land in Portsmouth for dock yard purposes (corrections welcome) using their Clause 17 powers. And if such was the case then federal funding for relief was evidently deemed justifiable under that clause.
It remains that states have never delegated to Congress, via the Constitution, the specific power to provide relief or safeguards against natural disasters for any arbitrary location. The problem is that the Congressional Act of 1803 gives the wrong impression, imo, that Congress can provide such relief and safeguards because citizens no longer understand Congress's limited power to tax and spend.
Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States. Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
I think that federal relief would be appropriate in many cases concerning natural disasters on non-federal land, but the Constitution needs to amended to grant Congress the specific power to provide such relief imo.
I agree with your assessment.
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