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GOP Rep. Hunter slams reported proposal to ban tobacco sales on Navy bases, ships
FOX News ^ | March 28, 2014 | FoxNews.com

Posted on 03/29/2014 3:21:00 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Republican Rep. Duncan Hunter is speaking out against a reported proposal being considered by the Navy to ban the sale of tobacco products on all its bases and ships, calling it a “political decision.”

The Military Times reported Monday that Navy officials are considering removing tobacco from all retail outlets, including exchange-operated sales venues and Morale, Welfare and Recreation program outlets. Navy commissaries do not sell tobacco products.

Hunter, a Marine veteran who served two tours in Iraq and one in Afghanistan, said in a letter to Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus he strongly opposes the ban, saying it will limit or restrict service members from purchasing legal products.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; atf; california; duncanhunter; iraq; marines; nannystate; navy; raymabus; tobacco
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1 posted on 03/29/2014 3:21:00 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: SheLion; Eric Blair 2084; -YYZ-; 31R1O; 383rr; AFreeBird; AGreatPer; Alamo-Girl; Alia; altura; ...

May God bless our sailors and marines, and may God condemn what the upper echelons are doing to them!

Nanny State PING!


2 posted on 03/29/2014 3:22:04 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

You can kill or be killed for nanny but she’ll protect you from tobacco. /s


3 posted on 03/29/2014 3:23:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Here we go again with a new anti - tobacco war
4 posted on 03/29/2014 3:23:41 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I wonder when they are going to go back and begin airbrushing (or photoshop) cigarettes from old movies and photos?

That is too much trouble, perhaps they will just ban any movie or photo with cigarettes in them.


5 posted on 03/29/2014 3:25:50 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I do not doubt that our climate changes. I only doubt that anything man does has any effect.)
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To: cripplecreek

Treating people like children and soldiers of all people. Disgusting. People can make their own choices.


6 posted on 03/29/2014 3:26:00 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: cripplecreek

Treating people like children and soldiers of all people. Disgusting. People can make their own choices.


7 posted on 03/29/2014 3:26:23 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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8 posted on 03/29/2014 3:27:42 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Navy officials are considering removing tobacco from all retail outlets, for those who'd like to speak to the matter http://www.navy.mil/submit/contacts.asp
9 posted on 03/29/2014 3:28:42 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If we had been good, his dad would be our president now.


10 posted on 03/29/2014 3:31:01 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: smokingfrog
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11 posted on 03/29/2014 3:31:06 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

These MF’ers don’t even try to hide their utter contempt for the military anymore.
I cannot believe how much the NAVY has changed since I left active duty in 1993.


12 posted on 03/29/2014 3:31:31 PM PDT by hillarys cankles
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To: familyop

I voted for Duncan Hunter Sr in the primary.


13 posted on 03/29/2014 3:31:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
LOL!

Let me guess - they'll ban tobacco sales, but begin selling marijuana.
14 posted on 03/29/2014 3:39:46 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

There are times I sympathize strongly with libertarians.


15 posted on 03/29/2014 3:40:53 PM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Alcohol must be next, because Zero plans to take away the Firearms. Thanks Tolerance Sucks Rocks.


16 posted on 03/29/2014 3:41:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Obama is now making Jimmy Carter look like Attila the Hun /focus/news/3138768/posts)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
F-ing communists Democrats have destroyed most of what America was and what is left are childlike kids totally depended on King Obama and his sick ilk.
17 posted on 03/29/2014 3:41:37 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: familyop

There would have been no one better to deal with Putin/Russia or any other existential threat to the U.S.


18 posted on 03/29/2014 3:41:39 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: CIB-173RDABN
I did two tours in VN, I never had less than a carton of Camels available, most newbies liked Tampax tipped butts.

There is nothing like a Camel after spending a day of avoiding getting your ass shot off. You lean back in your hole before the two and two, relax and think I must have been insane to fill out the 1049.

19 posted on 03/29/2014 3:52:22 PM PDT by Little Bill (EVICT Queen Jean)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Thanks for the link. I don’t use tobacco but the troops who do should be able to purchase it on base. They have fought too many wars protecting the rights of the people trying to take their rights from them. I let them know my take on it.


20 posted on 03/29/2014 3:55:48 PM PDT by Hurricane
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I thought we considered Prohibition a mistake?

Now it rears it’s ugly head again.


21 posted on 03/29/2014 3:56:17 PM PDT by what's up (su)
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To: Hurricane

Smoke em if you got em.....

Thanks.


22 posted on 03/29/2014 3:59:43 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Little Bill

C Rations came with cigarettes. I did not (and still do not) smoke, so I was able to trade for things I wanted.


23 posted on 03/29/2014 4:00:15 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I do not doubt that our climate changes. I only doubt that anything man does has any effect.)
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To: indthkr

and fashionable pink frocks..... for the “gender” confused


24 posted on 03/29/2014 4:01:50 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Ray rump ranger Mabus is in charge. He'd sell out his Mother for notoriety.
25 posted on 03/29/2014 4:06:15 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Little Bill

Yes, I too remember Vietnam when the only fun I got out of life for months on end was smoking cigarettes and scratching my jungle rot.


26 posted on 03/29/2014 4:15:11 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war,and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Little Bill

A 1049 huh. Dum bass. Me too.


27 posted on 03/29/2014 4:26:05 PM PDT by Rannug ("all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Smokers are degenerates, dispicable,stupid, polluters, worse than child molesters and should be shunned and beat down at every opportunity./s

They should also keep paying tobacco taxes.


28 posted on 03/29/2014 4:34:52 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I wasn’t a habit smoker when I was in. But still before each cruse I stocked up on some Swishers for an occasional treat from the grind. Wisely I stocked enough to pass a few around. Some things you take for granted on land become luxuries and special treats on a long cruise. The prevailing hazards I inhaled on the ship far exceeded what years of smoking could do to my lungs.


29 posted on 03/29/2014 4:36:31 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cripplecreek
One of my favorite authors and commentator on society generally is Florence king. I searched for years (unsuccessfully) to find the complete column about smoking, without success. But here is the gist of it...

Miss [Florence] King on smoking: "It's this: I think suicide qua suicide is weak and shameful, but maybe, if I just keep smoking, I can hasten my exit from this Walpurgisnacht called America and escape the mephitic cultural collapse that Nice-Nelly conservatism is powerless to stop.

"This is probably wishful thinking in view of my family's medical history, but it points up another benefit of cigarettes we no longer hear about: consolation. Even the word is gone from the language now, but it was what came through in World War II newsreels showing weary soldiers and refugees lighting up. In their most despairing moments a cigarette was all they had, and increasingly I feel the same way."

30 posted on 03/29/2014 4:38:45 PM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Sadly, there’s a few on this site that are cheering this proposal.


31 posted on 03/29/2014 4:39:19 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." --Quigley)
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To: RandallFlagg
Sadly, there’s a few on this site that are cheering this proposal.

Given the size of Free Republic, enough people post such that any subject, good or bad, will be either supported or condemned. It's inevitable.

32 posted on 03/29/2014 4:50:31 PM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: hillarys cankles
“These MF’ers don’t even try to hide their utter contempt for the military anymore.
I cannot believe how much the NAVY has changed since I left active duty in 1993.”
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When I went aboard my first ship in 1960 (fresh out of Basic to a Fletcher class destroyer) sea store cigs. were .10C a pack $1.00 a carton and we used to get under way a couple of times a year and steam out into international waters just so everyone could buy cases of cancer sticks. When I retired in the early eight's things had already started to change and not for the better. The modern Navy? I think I could only stand about 10 mins of it.
33 posted on 03/29/2014 4:52:55 PM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Let’s see. Tobacco is legal. It is not mentioned under the UCMJ in any way. Tobacco normally takes decades before there is any serious health effect. Those effects tend to be short lived and fatal, thus actually cheaper than paying pensions into someone’s 90’s.

But sodomy is specifically banned by the UCMJ. Sodomy is inherently dangerous. Sodomy spreads HIV and other diseases which take how long before they create very expensive health problems?

So, let’s ban tobacco and bring on the open homosexuals!


34 posted on 03/29/2014 4:54:50 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

These people are dumber than dirt.


35 posted on 03/29/2014 5:07:23 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

But pole smoking is just fine!


36 posted on 03/29/2014 5:08:55 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Just so long as they don’t ban pot sales ...


37 posted on 03/29/2014 5:20:30 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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But pole smoking is just fine!

Not to mention diving on the hairy yield sign and the ol' Hershey Highway.

38 posted on 03/29/2014 5:34:08 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: logic101.net
FGS even the Geneva Conventions have a section regarding tobacco.

As in "Prisoners of War shall have access to tobacco and tobacco products".

And these supposedly FREE men and women, who would like the opportunity to enjoy a LEGAL product.

Liberals plain suck.

If a liberal "doesn't like" something you do, he bans it.

39 posted on 03/29/2014 6:01:20 PM PDT by boop (I just wanted a President. But I got a rock.)
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To: hillarys cankles

I’m glad I got out in 1993 after 4 years. I was told my options if I stayed in and it boiled down to two more years on the worst run destroyer in the fleet. I was the last of the A gang engine men old guard who knew most of the routines and tricks. No bonus, no promotion since the rate was full, and the guy who was going to be my replacement went UA and got kicked out. The seabees were wide open and I had some construction experience. The verdict was you’re staying.

I was 22 and had no obligations so I got out.


40 posted on 03/29/2014 6:01:49 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


41 posted on 03/29/2014 7:45:52 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
He added he thinks that the Navy and Marines Corps should have more pressing issues to attend to than tobacco.

my sentiments exactly

42 posted on 03/29/2014 9:58:17 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: smokingfrog

"The smoking lamp is lighted in all authorized spaces."

43 posted on 03/29/2014 10:12:28 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: mongo141
When I went aboard my first ship in 1960 (fresh out of Basic to a Fletcher class destroyer) sea store cigs. were .10C a pack $1.00 a carton and we used to get under way a couple of times a year and steam out into international waters just so everyone could buy cases of cancer sticks. When I retired in the early eight's things had already started to change and not for the better. The modern Navy? I think I could only stand about 10 mins of it.

I came in '82. I think sea stores were 25 cents by then. You could still pretty much smoke anywhere on the ship except your rack. The big change was about '94 or '95. Smoking allowed only in a designated smoking area on the weather decks. We had a very anti-tobacco CO at the time. He wanted to get rid of all the smokes on the ship, even to the point of giving them away to other commands if he could. The Suppo was panicking thinking of the loss he would have to eat and talked the CO out of it. CO gave us a smoking area on the weather decks and then said the weather decks are secured at sunset, therefore smoking lamp is out at sunset. Sucked in the winter when sunset was 1600. UA smoking went way up. DCA talked the CO into letting us smoke in the tank deck after sunset, told him there was going to be a fire otherwise. We really liked this CO overall, but on the issue of smoking he was a irrational prick.

44 posted on 03/29/2014 10:29:26 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I am an honorably discharged veteran of both the US Army and the US Navy. I would counsel young people today to avoid the military. I never thought I would feel this way. It’s a sad thing.


45 posted on 03/29/2014 10:44:32 PM PDT by Octar
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To: RandallFlagg

who cheering?


46 posted on 03/29/2014 11:16:42 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: RitchieAprile; DannyTN; Drango

DannyTN, Drango, and some other tobaccophobes.
I saw you commenting on the, “Let’s make ecigarettes illegal,” thread a couple of days ago.

People who have the twisted desire to control other people?
I have no use for them.


47 posted on 03/30/2014 2:44:36 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." --Quigley)
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To: cripplecreek

WE TRIED!


48 posted on 03/30/2014 3:29:09 AM PDT by Cheapskate (Play loud and carry BIG sticks!)
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To: RandallFlagg; DannyTN

Yaawwwnnnn. Cigarette smoking diminishes fitness. It’s common sense that we should want our troops to be as fit as possible.

PS: I like Duncan Hunter a lot. He rocks.


49 posted on 03/30/2014 6:04:45 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango

I smoked while I served. Never was an issue.
A lot of my pals never smoked until they were deployed. They all did an absolutely excellent job doing what they did.
Are you in favor of our heroes doing their jobs while suffering the forced prohibition of nicotine, and the increased distractions that it causes?
Possibly making them less effective while performing their constitutional duties just so you can feel better about yourself and your coveted control over their lives?


50 posted on 03/30/2014 6:38:09 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." --Quigley)
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