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Florida Alert! Video of Florida Sheriffs Association Opposition to Right to Bear Arms
NRA ^ | 29 Mar 2014

Posted on 03/29/2014 7:57:55 PM PDT by shove_it

Below is a link to a youtube video of some of the Testimony before the Florida House Judiciary Committee on Thursday, March 17, 2014. It shows the Florida Sheriffs Association OPEN OPPOSITION to your right to carry your firearms with you during a mandatory evacuation under a declared state of emergency.

Further, despite words of the Founding Fathers in the Second Amendment, it is their opinion that you only have a "right" to own firearms and not a "right" to bear firearms.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qogTYo4mPuo

Under the video screen you will see heading that says, "Published on Mar 28, 2014" and a short narrative. At the bottom of the narrative there is an option that says "Show more." Be sure to click on that "Show more" option to read the rest of the narrative.

The bill is HB-209 Firearms During Mandatory Evacuations by Representative Heather Fitzenhagen and others. Click Here to Read the Bill. The final vote on the bill by the House Judiciary Committee was 17-1. Committee members, ALL 12 Republicans and 5 of 6 Democrats stood up for YOUR rights.

If you want to watch the complete House Judiciary Committee hearing on this bill, along with questions and debate by Legislators who are members of the committee, click here and at the bottom of the screen and in time bar, move it to 1:40:00 to start the hearing on this bill.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; fl; florida

1 posted on 03/29/2014 7:57:55 PM PDT by shove_it
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To: shove_it; Joe Brower; seekthetruth; NonValueAdded; Joe Boucher

Florida and Brevard County pings

NVA: do you know how Sheriff Ivey voted on this?


2 posted on 03/29/2014 8:02:17 PM PDT by shove_it (my real nickname is Otter)
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To: shove_it

If the Florida Sheriffs Association can assure me that criminals don’t have guns, I may be willing to listen. Otherwise, I really don’t care to hear what they have to say.


3 posted on 03/29/2014 8:03:03 PM PDT by boycott
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To: shove_it

Here’s a live link to the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qogTYo4mPuo


4 posted on 03/29/2014 8:06:09 PM PDT by shove_it (my real nickname is Otter)
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To: boycott

Looks like the FL House is with you and me on that one.


5 posted on 03/29/2014 8:10:03 PM PDT by shove_it (my real nickname is Otter)
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To: shove_it

Bookmark


6 posted on 03/29/2014 8:13:13 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evastion are tools of deceit)
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To: shove_it

When it comes down to it, the police will do what their masters tell them too...... If they want to keep their pensions and healthcare.


7 posted on 03/29/2014 8:39:28 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: shove_it

Nope, but I’d be surprised if he supported it.


8 posted on 03/29/2014 8:49:08 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Operating out of weakness? Imagine if he was working from a position of strength!)
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To: baddog 219

That’s the problem with almost all of law enforcement.


9 posted on 03/29/2014 9:11:59 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: shove_it

This is B.S. The Sheriff’s Department wants people disarmed in an evacuation where they are most vulnerable. Do your job and leave law-abiding citizens alone!


10 posted on 03/29/2014 9:15:54 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededication to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: boycott

You just hit on the problem. There’s a state of emergency and a mass evacuation. I don’t want to be the only person out there without a gun.


11 posted on 03/29/2014 9:55:50 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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Florida is scared of the “wrong colored citizens” having guns, just like in CT.

In CT you MUST go to only one building in the entire state to spend $116 with four separate checks to APPLY to get a certificate to buy a long gun. The poor are overwhelmingly the “wrong color in CT” and the politicians knew that they don’t have transportation to get to Middletown, CT nor the spare $116.

Now you know why the CT gun law was passed. FL soon to follow.


12 posted on 03/30/2014 2:42:30 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: baddog 219

it’s true.
Like damn near ALL gub mint employees,
just sitting around watching the retirement clock.


13 posted on 03/30/2014 2:58:37 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: shove_it

Awful kind of them to make their opinions known.......in an election year.

Write all of their names down.
Put their names and constitutional violations on stickers.
Place stickers all over their counties.
Make them famous!


14 posted on 03/30/2014 3:14:15 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." --Quigley)
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To: shove_it

After Katrina, we had some Florida Troopers in the area to help keep things real. I was putting up a sign at the end of the road to warn potential looters that we were an armed community...I had my .357 strapped on when a Florida Trooper came by. He looked at the sign, glanced at me, then touched the brim of his hat and drove off. Sheriffs can be useful or detrimental but their positions are often political enough to give one doubts about their loyalties - Mike Byrd in our area of MS demonstrates that you never know...


15 posted on 03/30/2014 4:55:14 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: USCG SimTech
Now you know why the CT gun law was passed.

At the time I saw all that equality ballyhoo was meant for southern folks, not the ones up north.

Seven years after our schools were forcibly integrated, they were still burning buses in Boston in an effort to prevent their children from having to go across town and go to school with 'those people'.

16 posted on 03/30/2014 5:09:46 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Back in the 60’s we in the south didn’t even know we were discriminating ,until the government told us.


17 posted on 03/30/2014 6:05:53 AM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: shove_it

Oh no! We just sent them a nice donation too! Won’t happen again though....


18 posted on 03/30/2014 7:54:59 AM PDT by jch10 (Election Day, 2014. May be the most important day since Bunker Hill.)
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To: piroque
I still recall a kid in my newly integrated class ranting about how he worked on the farm with me, how we played together, but he'd be damned if he was going to learn with me. I wasn't offended, really, after all I'm white.

We remained friends even through the race riots in High School.

19 posted on 03/30/2014 8:06:50 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: trebb

That trooper must have come from somewhere north of South Florida.


20 posted on 03/30/2014 11:10:54 AM PDT by shove_it (my real nickname is Otter)
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To: shove_it

No surprise here. It seems sheriffs are about 50-50 for/against the right to keep and bear arms, based on the ones I have talked to and have given talks to our local militia organization. Oh, no, the NSA is coming to my house now!


21 posted on 03/30/2014 6:03:23 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...
Sp, politicians with badges care more about kissing the asses of their bosses more than protecting the God-given rights of the people they supposedly serve. What a surprise.

Florida Freeper


22 posted on 03/31/2014 8:13:55 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: shove_it

It figures that the Sheriff’s spokeswoman who carried the apposition message reminds of the mayonnaise-coiffed DWS.


23 posted on 03/31/2014 8:23:29 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: shove_it

I believe, Grady Judd, who is the President of the FSA, is opposed to his brethren on this, and has said so in the past. (from lack of total recall)


24 posted on 03/31/2014 8:30:35 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Joe Brower
The concept of them "serving the people" has gone the way of the DoDo bird. They no longer hide the fact that the people are slaves of the Government and that they are their overseers. If you lived in South Florida and walked up to a cop in North Florida, his attitude toward you would be that he would not piss in your mouth if your guts were on fire, Ditto with vice versa.

Years ago you could carry on a conversation with a cop under the same circumstances. The change is that they no longer consider you an equal. If you do not happen to be a cop, then you are just another criminal in their eyes.

25 posted on 03/31/2014 8:34:30 AM PDT by sport
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To: Bushbacker1; All

Here’s a recent statement from the FSA on HB-209 ‘clarifying’ their position:

Florida Sheriffs Association
March 28 · Edited
We have received correspondence today from several FSA members about some inaccurate information surrounding our position on HB 209 and the Second Amendment.

The Florida Sheriffs Association fully supports the Second Amendment rights of Florida’s citizens, and we affirm our ongoing support for Florida’s citizens to responsibly own firearms.

HB 209 authorizes those *without* concealed weapons permits to carry concealed on their person during a mandatory evacuation order. We believe that citizens that have gone through the concealed weapons permit process have the right to carry concealed and we believe that privilege should be protected for those individuals. If passed, it will be the first time Florida law authorizes someone without a permit to carry concealed.

Florida already has laws in place that authorize ANY lawful gun owner to transport their weapons in a car or public conveyance, therefore this legislation is unnecessary. If you have a concealed weapons permit then you can absolutely carry concealed and we support that. If you do not have a concealed weapons permit you can still take your guns with you in your car or on public transport—as long as they are securely encased and not readily accessible. We support this reasonable application of current law.

https://www.facebook.com/floridasheriffsassociation?ref=stream&hc_location=stream

They are getting slammed with negative comments following the statement.


26 posted on 03/31/2014 8:46:27 AM PDT by shove_it (my real nickname is Otter)
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To: Joe Brower

No surprise here. Who helped with the disappearing of Terri Schiavo? Sheriff Everett Rice Pinellas County. This is Terri’s Day commemorating March 31, 2005. Now everyone can see how they are. We already knew...


27 posted on 03/31/2014 9:02:20 AM PDT by floriduh voter (My ducks are not on the menu. They're funny looking dogs.)
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To: sport

In my county, the sheriff is at least an elected official. Trouble is, nowadays there’s too much of an influx of Yankees, and it’s polluting the vote.


28 posted on 03/31/2014 9:05:04 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: shove_it
You have to love it. In denying their bias, their 'reasoning' displays it all the more.
29 posted on 03/31/2014 9:06:22 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Joe Brower
Exactly. In one sentence they call bearing arms a right but it's a privilege ...

"We believe that citizens that have gone through the concealed weapons permit process have the right to carry concealed and we believe that privilege should be protected for those individuals."

Which is it, FSA, a right or a privelige?

30 posted on 03/31/2014 9:21:26 AM PDT by shove_it (my real nickname is Otter)
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To: Joe Brower

Everett Rice retired as Sheriff to run the legislature. He did that to vote against Terri’s life but memories fade but I think that’s what happened. I believe eventually, he LOST re-election. He also lost his bid to be Sheriff again.


31 posted on 03/31/2014 10:59:14 AM PDT by floriduh voter (My ducks are not on the menu. They're funny looking dogs.)
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To: shove_it; Joe Brower; MinuteGal; SoFloFreeper; left that other site; Joe Boucher; SeminoleCounty; ..
Florida Sheriffs Association Opposition to Right to Bear Arms


32 posted on 03/31/2014 3:59:22 PM PDT by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

Law enforcement?

That is the problem with ALL government employees! Local, state and federal.

They do what they are told rather than what is right or legal or constitutional.

Or, they get fired!


33 posted on 03/31/2014 3:59:42 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: shove_it

Boy that sounds familiar.

I’ve been through those before, there are NO cops around and the phones are likely overloaded.


34 posted on 03/31/2014 4:16:49 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: trebb

A couple years ago my house was broken into. I arrived shortly after the cops and told them there were guns in the house as they went in to clear it.

Short time later they asked me to check the guns. One cop asked me how many I had. Not in a friendly sort of way.


35 posted on 03/31/2014 4:20:44 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: shove_it

Key word in that statement “privilege “


36 posted on 03/31/2014 4:23:36 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Yup.


37 posted on 03/31/2014 5:20:01 PM PDT by shove_it (my real nickname is Otter)
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