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Probe launched into fireman handcuffed during call (Louisiana)
WBRZ.com ^ | March 26, 2014 | Chris Nakamoto

Posted on 03/29/2014 9:20:42 PM PDT by Timber Rattler

Less than 24 hours after the News 2 Investigative Unit aired a story about a fireman getting handcuffed during a 911 call, the State Fire Marshal's Office launched an investigation into the incident.

It happened Monday night in the 100 block of Cherry Street. According to witnesses, a firefighter rendering aid during a medical call was asked to move his fire truck. The fire truck had flashing lights turned on and was parked on the side of the street. When he refused, a New Roads Police officer handcuffed and detained the fireman.

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Initially, New Roads Police Chief Kevin McDonald told News 2 the issue was resolved. Less than 24 hours later, he said his department will comply with the State Fire Marshal's investigation.

"I have tasked detectives today to begin that investigation," Deputy Chief Brant Thompson said. "They will be conducting interviews and other information concerning what is seen as a very unfortunate incident that occurred in New Roads."

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On Wednesday, New Roads Police Chief Kevin McDonald claimed the fireman made a sarcastic remark to his officer when he asked him to move his truck, which is why he was detained. McDonald reiterated that he has no plans to discipline the officer.

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The New Roads Fire Chief told News 2 he didn't want to comment because he has to work closely with the town police. He did say his firefighter did everything he was supposed to do.

(Excerpt) Read more at wbrz.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: cop; copsarefags; detained; donutwatch; fireman; leo
This incident is very similar to the one in California that happened a few weeks back:

Firefighter arrested by CHP after dispute at crash site

This fire chief in Louisiana sounds rather gutless.

1 posted on 03/29/2014 9:20:42 PM PDT by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler; Alaska Wolf; TexasFreeper2009

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2 posted on 03/29/2014 9:24:30 PM PDT by null and void ( Everything evil in the world may not be Islamic but everything Islamic is evil.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Oh yeah. Most cops have common sense not to interfere with firemen and their work.

Those who don’t... wind up dead.


3 posted on 03/29/2014 9:25:40 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Timber Rattler

“no plans to discipline the officer”

Incredible.


4 posted on 03/29/2014 9:30:51 PM PDT by Ray76 (Profit from the mistakes of others, you'll never live long enough to make them all yourself.)
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To: Timber Rattler
On Wednesday, New Roads Police Chief Kevin McDonald claimed the fireman made a sarcastic remark to his officer when he asked him to move his truck, which is why he was detained. McDonald reiterated that he has no plans to discipline the officer.

Oh no! he made a sarcastic comment to the officer, mothers hide your children and lock the doors, there's sarcasm on the loose! Who let this panty waist that could'nt possibly have passed a psych exam on the force? I strongly suspect nepotism being involved.

5 posted on 03/29/2014 9:33:30 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Ray76

Its about pushing egos. Some cops don’t understand how incredibly dangerous the scene of a fire or a disaster can be.

Every one has to obey firefighters’ orders. They’re experienced professionals and even smart-aleck cops should defer to them.

There’s always a reason for the way fire vehicles are parked at an emergency scene.


6 posted on 03/29/2014 9:34:01 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Timber Rattler
the doughnut muncher better double up on his fire insurance...
7 posted on 03/29/2014 9:34:48 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Timber Rattler

Thanks for posting that link. I knew from headline that was what happened. It’s a nationwide issue.


8 posted on 03/29/2014 9:35:52 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: goldstategop
Oh yeah. Most cops have common sense not to interfere with firemen and their work. Those who don’t... wind up dead.

Funny how the firefighters might move a little slower when the officer wraps that cruiser around something. My Chief would have reamed that cop's arse so bad he wouldn't have been able to sit on a barstool without sliding over it.

9 posted on 03/29/2014 9:36:18 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Timber Rattler

My Fd has had similar problems with some of the NJ Road Nazi

We park an apparatus to block lane while our crews is working
on accident/vehicle fires

Road Nazi say have o keep road open at all costs - even if
risks our men..........


10 posted on 03/29/2014 9:36:24 PM PDT by njslim (T)
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To: Ray76

Another cops outta control story. Well I know I got arrested for trumped up charges like Jaywalk, fail to ID & disobey officer round of charges trying to protest a politician.I was on foot.
USC 42 Section 1983 civil rights cases are very hard to litigate as the prisoners have overused the crap out of it and created widespread cynicism. High nigh impossible to get a lawyer...it SUCKS!


11 posted on 03/29/2014 9:36:41 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: Ray76

““no plans to discipline the officer””

SOP! “Vee are zee politzei , vee don’t got to answer to nobody. Zu get in our vey, vee arrest you.”


12 posted on 03/29/2014 9:36:44 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Ray76

Not really. The Chief doesn’t have to discipline him; all he has to do is remind the cop that the fireman is the guy who has to decide whether it’s safe to approach his wrecked cruiser so he can be pulled to safety.


13 posted on 03/29/2014 9:37:13 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Mastador1

Firemen are men. Cops are fags.


14 posted on 03/29/2014 9:37:19 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Timber Rattler
the fireman made a sarcastic remark to his officer

There you have it: contempt of cop; lock him up and throw away the key any semblance of common sense.

15 posted on 03/29/2014 9:38:29 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Operating out of weakness? Imagine if he was working from a position of strength!)
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To: Timber Rattler

16 posted on 03/29/2014 9:45:07 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Richard Warman censors free speech.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Many years ago I knew a state trooper (former classmate) who was killed by a drunk driver crashing through an emergency call for a car fire. After that happened the policy changed such that any fire trucks on the scene were required to be parked as traffic barriers to protect emergency personnel.


17 posted on 03/29/2014 9:47:29 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Timber Rattler

What specific statute says sarcastic comments are illegal?


18 posted on 03/29/2014 9:47:42 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: Timber Rattler
I don't know who this is but this made me laugh, or cry - whose police are out of control and which will soon make the former East German communist stasi state look like Toytown

Even they, some islamic country it seems, know our police are out of control???

We are seriously in trouble in foreign policy with this bungling dingdong as president. Seriously.

19 posted on 03/29/2014 9:49:20 PM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: njslim

The NJ river Nazi’s are worse. I don’t have picture to post but I’ve seen enough of them to instinctively know their Nazis. Some one should find a picture one one. powder blue uniform.


20 posted on 03/29/2014 9:57:17 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: Timber Rattler
This incident is very similar to the one in California that happened a few weeks back:
Firefighter arrested by CHP after dispute at crash site

There is an update on that case.

Firefighter files claim against CHP over arrest

21 posted on 03/29/2014 9:59:40 PM PDT by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: Timber Rattler

Odd, it seems as if firefighters are getting a lot more “forgiving” than I recall them ever being. Was a time when arresting a firefighter on scene over a parked vehicle, while he was providing patient care, would have ended badly for Officer Incompetent.

Maybe I’ve just spent too much time around Irish fireFighters.

Stories like this illustrate why many states specify via legislation that Fire/EMS have control of emergency scenes and not the local ticket-pushers. Restraining a first-responder while said person is providing patient care is fifty-thousand shades of stupid.


22 posted on 03/29/2014 10:10:08 PM PDT by jameslalor
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To: Sirius Lee

no fire fighters in “the village people”


23 posted on 03/29/2014 10:11:52 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: Timber Rattler

Better not expect mutual aid or promptness when this officer needs them...


24 posted on 03/29/2014 10:13:41 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Timber Rattler

Note to firefighters: leave the Dalmatian home, otherwise your fire becomes a vicious dog attack-shooting by doughnut chomper.


25 posted on 03/29/2014 10:24:41 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: NonValueAdded

Actually, the fireman was lucky the cop did not shoot him.


26 posted on 03/29/2014 10:32:44 PM PDT by sport
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To: Husker24

“I was in fear of my life.” That covers all the sins. The bullets start flying immediately.


27 posted on 03/29/2014 10:34:34 PM PDT by sport
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To: sport

good thing the Dalmatian wasn’t there


28 posted on 03/29/2014 10:50:16 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Operating out of weakness? Imagine if he was working from a position of strength!)
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To: Timber Rattler

Firefighters try to help. Paramedics try to help. Police officers, not so much.


29 posted on 03/29/2014 10:58:55 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: coloradan

Just had a guy on the local news about the Oso Landslide in Washington. He said he could hear a baby crying and nobody was going in. He started to go in and they said he couldn’t - it was too dangerous. He had a few choice words for them.

There was a photo of him on top of the mud pile carrying the baby out. Other non-official people in the background helping the mom that was still trapped. (The guy asked the mom (two broken legs and trapped “Is it okay if I take your baby?”). Mom is out of the hospital, and the baby is improving.

The folks in those small mountain communities are real close. Whoever was telling them not to go in was smart though in not trying to arrest them. The fatality count would have gone higher.


30 posted on 03/29/2014 11:40:59 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: Timber Rattler

What amazes me about this is it is not too far from where the idiot cops got themselves in trouble arresting the officials at a high school football game. Are the police there so insular that they did not even hear about the Covington incident?

I suspect this is going to end badly for the cop and the chief of police who is apparently to stupid to know in the calm light of day his guy was way out of line.


31 posted on 03/30/2014 12:35:07 AM PDT by JLS
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To: Timber Rattler

And the libs don’t give a second thought to let such people open carry...most of them are very poor shots (I’ve watched the at the range when they qualify). But give them a badge and any loonie can carry a gun...but I can’t?


32 posted on 03/30/2014 3:43:06 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: South40
Hmmmm...so despite the CHP spin it seems that the situation in California has NOT been resolved after all.

Gilleon said there have been other tensions between the CHP and Chula Vista firefighters at freeway crash scenes, including one in 2010 and one two weeks after Gregoire’s detention.

33 posted on 03/30/2014 3:48:47 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: goldstategop

I mean involve with many emergency scenes.

Just because it is a big emergency vehicle doesn’t mean it should just be parked any where.

There are many reason to want it moved after it arrived.

To ease the flow of traffic, to offer better protection, not to create a bigger hazard. Are just three of them.

I seen both police, fire and EMS get a hard on over who is right.

Who was the OIC, the matter should have been taken up with them.

Firemen are not always right nor are police or EMS.


34 posted on 03/30/2014 4:36:03 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: NonValueAdded
Right. It was like redirected aggression against the firefighter because, darn it, the police couldn't find any dogs handy to shoot. Or homeless mentally ill either!

What's a policeman to do? Just go for the nearest people to handcuff. Not as fun as shooting but there was probably at least a small power surge.

35 posted on 03/30/2014 4:38:55 AM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: Chode

The hydrant in front of his house just got ‘disabled’.


36 posted on 03/30/2014 5:27:45 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Methinks that fire department will be slow to respond to any calls for help involving an officer’s house on fire or a dangerous car accident......


37 posted on 03/30/2014 5:35:12 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: carriage_hill
i have no doubt... what an eeeediot
38 posted on 03/30/2014 8:14:00 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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