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EPA agents raid ammunition company on alleged ‘environmental violations’
Daily Caller ^ | 12:11 PM 03/28/2014 | Michael Bastasch

Posted on 03/30/2014 7:42:36 AM PDT by Hoodat

Environmental Protection Agency and FBI agents raided the ammunition company USA Brass over alleged “environmental violations” early Thursday morning.

NBC Montana was tipped off by witnesses that federal investigators were there until at least 4 a.m. on Thursday. Federal agents could be seen going through the company’s building and taking items to a truck parked outside. EPA lead criminal investigator Bert Marsden said that the agency was looking into alleged “environmental violations” by USA Brass.

“We are investigating alleged violations of environmental law,” Marsden said on Thursday. “An investigation takes as long as it takes, and I can’t provide any details as it relates to that.”

“I can make a statement that there is no immediate threat to the public or the community at this time,” said Marsden.

It’s unclear exactly what the environmental violations were, but USA Brass has come under fire from federal agencies before for lead exposure. USA Brass cleans and resells used ammunition casings, and NBC Montana reports that local health officials found elevated levels of lead in the blood of 22 current and former employees.

Last September, the company was fined more than $45,000 by the U.S. Labor Department for 10 serious violations. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) also found that USA Brass has overexposed workers to lead and failed to “provide basic safeguards to reduce lead exposure, including breathing protection and protective clothing,” reports NBC Montana. . .


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; epa; epaoutofcontrol; lead; osha; secondamendment; usabrass
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Lead exposure in the workplace is an OSHA issue. Not sure why the EPA and FBI decided to get involved.
1 posted on 03/30/2014 7:42:36 AM PDT by Hoodat
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To: Hoodat

When are people going to start shooting back at these goons?


2 posted on 03/30/2014 7:44:10 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Hoodat
Lead exposure in the workplace is an OSHA issue. Not sure why the EPA and FBI decided to get involved.

A message being sent...intimidation.

With some exceptions, gun restriction laws are not getting through. Look for all kinds of more subtle ways of intimidating the firearms industry and hampering gun ownership.

3 posted on 03/30/2014 7:45:22 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Hoodat

Sounds like a disgruntled ex-employee and/or federal harassment. This administration is corrupt and out to dissemble America.


4 posted on 03/30/2014 7:45:39 AM PDT by soycd
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To: Gaffer
When are people going to start shooting back at these goons?

Good question. If/when that happens, look for the floodgates to open. Then the serious jackbooted crackdown, followed by who knows what.

5 posted on 03/30/2014 7:47:59 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Hoodat

You notice that they are going to chip away and harass until they eventually have their way with taking away gun rights.

They are nibbling daily. Pretty soon they won’t be nibbling, they will take big bites.


6 posted on 03/30/2014 7:49:48 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Hoodat

“Not sure why the EPA and FBI decided to get involved. “

Because it’s a liberal agenda item. The astonishing thing is that the FBI has in the last two weeks arrested several Democrats. Those agents are risking their careers and they know it. It’s similar to...say, the 1938 Berlin cops arrested a few Nazi party leaders.


7 posted on 03/30/2014 7:50:24 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Hoodat

tThe lead probably came from infant/toddler nibbling on painted wooden cribs made in China, and fishing sinkers-
Impossible to prove from whence came the lead.


8 posted on 03/30/2014 7:50:55 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: Gaffer

I do think the government wants that. It would allow them to take some special actions. But in the end, they will be sorry.


9 posted on 03/30/2014 7:51:32 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Hoodat

USA Brass is causing Global Warming at the direction of George W. Bush. I am surprized that NOAA wasn’t involved in the raid as well. NASA should have paricipated to make sure Muslims were reached out to also.


10 posted on 03/30/2014 7:51:32 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Stop wishing for a perfect world. You may get it. Who will you talk to then?)
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To: dforest

That big bite will likely be more than they can chew. They will continue to nibble, it is all they can do.


11 posted on 03/30/2014 7:51:36 AM PDT by Antihero101607
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To: Antihero101607

Don’t be caught off guard, this nibbling is becoming more frequent.


12 posted on 03/30/2014 7:52:48 AM PDT by dforest
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To: ChildOfThe60s

For me, when they start to wonder whether they’ll be coming home at night is a good thing, IMO.


13 posted on 03/30/2014 7:54:16 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Hoodat

Instead of buying ammunition now the government is just going to steal it!


14 posted on 03/30/2014 7:55:30 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Hoodat

Many wastes contaminated with lead are federal hazardous wastes [over]regulated by EPA.


15 posted on 03/30/2014 7:57:31 AM PDT by umgud
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To: Hoodat

How many of the > 1 billion hollow-point rounds bought by the Feds have gone to the EPA?

A return to the original four federal departments would be the greatest gift this country could ever receive (along with robust term limits in all three branches, and repeal of the 17th).

Can we at least get a Tyrannical Protection Agency proposed before the next civil war starts? It’ll have to be a rush job, though.


16 posted on 03/30/2014 7:59:10 AM PDT by dagogo redux
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To: Hoodat
When in the course of Human Events ..."
17 posted on 03/30/2014 7:59:50 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Operating out of weakness? Imagine if he was working from a position of strength!)
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To: NonValueAdded

Don’t stop there. Keep going.


18 posted on 03/30/2014 8:01:51 AM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Hoodat

Can they get any more blatant and obvious?


19 posted on 03/30/2014 8:02:14 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Don Corleone

ahahahaha THANK YOU!


20 posted on 03/30/2014 8:02:57 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Gen.Blather

Another way to limit gun owner 2nd A rights. Well I am stocked piled for a while. For both the 9 mm Ruger and my Taurus Ultra Lite revolver 38. And Taurus just moved to state Income Tax free Tennessee. :-), need to beef up the 12 gauge though. Since we have great grands, we have a gun safe. I’m the CCW permit holder.


21 posted on 03/30/2014 8:03:41 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: Hoodat
Not sure why the EPA and FBI decided to get involved.

The IRS will be next.

Now that the US feral government is under the control of the totalitarian socialists, government agencies are all weapons now.

22 posted on 03/30/2014 8:08:03 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it.")
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To: Hoodat

Not sure why the EPA and FBI decided to get involved.

Because OSHA can’t ban the use of lead in bullets and neither OSHA nor the EPA can come in with an armed attack.

Ok, now that I think about it they might be able to now; but they need some on the job training since they didn’t used to be able to.

Forgot about the Hope and Change.


23 posted on 03/30/2014 8:11:30 AM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: Hoodat
Not sure why the EPA and FBI decided to get involved.

Oh, I think it's pretty clear. They don't want the problem solved, they want to shut down the place period.

24 posted on 03/30/2014 8:17:21 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Hoodat

Are there any government departments left who don’t have their own “SWAT” team? This joint is getting worse than the old Third Reich. With more and more Federal employees being armed every day, the importance of the Second Amendment becomes more obvious.


25 posted on 03/30/2014 8:17:33 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Trust no one.)
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To: Hoodat
Feral.gov is public enemy #1

That halfrican is but a dull tan tøøl.

That muffled sound is a whirlwind growing  .  .  .

26 posted on 03/30/2014 8:20:06 AM PDT by tomkat (can you hear it now ?)
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To: Gen.Blather
The astonishing thing is that the FBI has in the last two weeks arrested several Democrats. Those agents are risking their careers and they know it. It’s similar to...say, the 1938 Berlin cops arrested a few Nazi party leaders.

It is a measure of how smug they feel about their agenda, that is all. Hitler has that bunch of homos out running around making people miserable--until he had them rounded up, too.

Maybe someone threatened to disclose how much of the so called 'gun violence' problem is actually a false flag operation like fast and furious. We're at the point where Conservatives would tell the Government to get stuffed, have it on tape, and would blow the story wide open on the web, so the Gummint needs to have insiders pull off their dirty work.

27 posted on 03/30/2014 8:25:07 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer; All
Are there any government departments
left who don’thave their own “SWAT” team?
the Senior Citizens/Preschoolers/kindergärtners...

28 posted on 03/30/2014 8:26:01 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: Antihero101607
That big bite will likely be more than they can chew.

I think they did that in Connecticut already.

29 posted on 03/30/2014 8:26:03 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Hoodat

Being an “ammo mfg plant”, the ATF should have had jurisdiction and been first on the scene.

Any reason for them to suspend any of the FFL class licensees required to operate such a business in the U.S. would make them jump for joy at the justification of their existence.

Reminds me of the scene from Ghostbusters when the EPA guys says’ “If he does that again you can shoot him.”


30 posted on 03/30/2014 8:31:33 AM PDT by Delta 21 (If you like your freedom, you can keep your freedom. Period.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
"...followed by who knows what."

Followed by a Declaration of Martial Law and suspension of the Constitution under President for life Obama.

(Peace be upon Him)

31 posted on 03/30/2014 8:34:17 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war,and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: DJ Taylor; ChildOfThe60s
Followed by a Declaration of Martial Law and suspension of the Constitution under President for life Obama.

(Peace be upon Him)

Excuse me, but you misspelled piss...


32 posted on 03/30/2014 8:43:26 AM PDT by WVKayaker ("Help spread the good news; we can send helpmates to the good guys in D.C." -Sarah Palin, March 13)
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To: Hoodat
Not sure why the EPA and FBI decided to get involved.

Probably checking to see how they dispose of tainted waste water or other items into the environment. The FBI? Not sure but why not? It's a Fed party. Maybe the local Field Office Director reloads his own.

33 posted on 03/30/2014 8:57:36 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Truth sounds like hate...to those who hate truth.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Not about environmental violations it’s about setting up a plan to shut down munitions plants thru the EPA with FBI muscle. Back dooring anti gun legislation


34 posted on 03/30/2014 9:02:34 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Im missing a jumbo jet with 235 passengers has anyone seen it?)
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To: soycd

“This administration is corrupt and out to dissemble America.”

Should be: Dismantle...or disassemble.

Arguably, “dissemble”, ‘to mislead as to the true nature of’ is applicable to the Admins’ activities, but I don’t think it’s what you meant.


35 posted on 03/30/2014 9:04:46 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

“Then the serious jackbooted crackdown, followed by who knows what. “

Let me help you out here. Then the 1776 solution. Coming sooner than you think. :-)


36 posted on 03/30/2014 9:15:01 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Hoodat

“...I can make a statement that there is no immediate threat to the public or the community at this time,” said Marsden...

You’re the threat, Marsden.
A visit from the EPA is always a threat to the public and the community. Heck, while snooping around, you might find 6 inches of standing water in an adjacent field for more than a week, and declare the whole area a protected wetland. That’s what you EPA jerkoffs do.


37 posted on 03/30/2014 9:23:05 AM PDT by smedley64
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To: smedley64

If you don’t vote Republican in the mid-terms and in 2016, you can expect lots more of this. Get it folks?


38 posted on 03/30/2014 9:28:52 AM PDT by flaglady47 (Oppressors can tyranize only w/a standing army-enslaved press-disarmed populace)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

You are correct. I meant to spell disassemble. At this point, any negative connotation will work with this administration.


39 posted on 03/30/2014 9:41:32 AM PDT by soycd
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To: Hoodat
Lead exposure in the workplace is an OSHA issue. Not sure why the EPA and FBI decided to get involved.

Just letting every agency try on their jackboots.

40 posted on 03/30/2014 9:47:34 AM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Hoodat

being anti lead is as emotional a religion as being anti co2. The lead police congregate at the EPA

OSHA is not sufficiently radical and pure of heart


41 posted on 03/30/2014 9:52:43 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: soycd

To me it sounds like the company failed to take proper safeguards against lead exposure.....

I worked in the automation industry supervising installations. If lead was found in existing paint, we had to call in the guys in the spacesuits, very expensive..

if 20 plus employees had elevated levels of lead in their blood, then the company is, in my mind, criminally neglegent and completely responsible for both the health damage and all medical expenses.

the officers of this company should be in prison


42 posted on 03/30/2014 10:15:47 AM PDT by joe fonebone (a socialist is just a juvenile communist)
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To: Gaffer

“When are people going to start shooting back at these goons?”

In the long run we have to clean out the universities which are the breeding ground for this Marxist bullsh*t. It’s where their policy makers go to hide when they’re out of power and need to make some easy money.


43 posted on 03/30/2014 11:12:49 AM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: dagogo redux
"Can we at least get a Tyrannical Protection Agency"

Tyranny is already quite protected by Fed State and Local gov'ts.

We need a Liberty and Constitution Protection Agency.

44 posted on 03/30/2014 11:17:08 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: bert
"The lead police congregate at the EPA"

Why are automotive batteries not yet banned?

45 posted on 03/30/2014 11:20:56 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: joe fonebone
Most everybody has lead stored in their body, Hg too.

The question is how much?

I'm an ancient "survivor" of leaded gasoline and doing just fine thanks.

46 posted on 03/30/2014 11:23:24 AM PDT by Paladin2
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the officers of this company should be in prison

USA Brass will simply load their brass and jobs onto a mostly empty return boat and reopen as China Brass.

47 posted on 03/30/2014 11:37:45 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Hoodat; All
Please bear in mind that I'm not trying to criminalize the owners of USA Brass or their parents with this post.

Also, I believe that both workers in the work place and the environment need to be legislatively protected. But until the Constitution is appropriately amended, such protection must come from the states and not from the federal government.

As a consequence the parents of the owners of USA Brass not making sure that their children were taught about the federal government's constitutionally limited powers, the owners of USA Brass were evidently not able to argue the following concerning the EPA raid. (Note that this same argument also applies to OSHA where intrastate private property is concerned.)

With the exception of the federal entities indicated in the Constitution's Clauses 16 & 17 of Section 8 of Article I as examples, entities under the exclusive legislative control of Congress, the States have never amended the Constitution to grant Congress the specific powers to legislatively protect either the environment or workers in the workplace where intrastate property is concerned.

In fact, the Founding States had made the 10th Amendment to clarify that the Constitution's silence about such issues means that they are automatically and uniquely state power issues.

Again, the only reason, imo, that owners of USA Brass have reluctantly replied "How high?" when the constitutionally undefined EPA shouted "JUMP!" is because the owners are evidently clueless about the federal government's constitutionally limited powers.

Also, as I've mentioned in related threads, even if the states had delegated to Congress, via the Constitution, the specific powers to regulate workplace conditions and the environment, the Founding States had made the first numbered clauses in the Constitution, Sections 1-3 of Article I, evidently a good place to hide them from citizens, to clarify that all federal legislative powers are vested in the elected members of Congress. So Congress has a constitutional monopoly on federal legislative powers whether it wants it or not.

So by unconstitutionally delegating legislative powers to the non-elected bureaucrats running the EPA and OSHA, powers in this case that the States have never constitutionally delegated to Congress, Congress is wrongly protecting nonexistent federal legislative powers from the wrath of the voters in blatant defiance of the Sections 1-3 indicated above.

Finally, remember that your constitutionally powerful state lawmakers aren't lifting a finger to protect citizens from a corrupt federal government that likes to ignore its constitutionally limited powers because your state lawmakers are undoubtedly as constitutionally clueless as the voters who elected them are.

Are we having fun yet? =^O

Finally, with all due respect to the family and friends of the late President Nixon, he was constitutionally negligent, imo, to sign the bill which established the EPA, and also the bill which established OSHA.

What a mess! :^(

48 posted on 03/30/2014 12:06:16 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Paladin2

i am probably older than you...

there is a difference between nominal contact and repeated high level of exposure...

hell, i have made sinkers out of lead....

i do not have elevated levels of lead in my body...

failure to take proper safeguards for your employees is criminal, and these guys put cash in their pockets at the expense of their employees very right to live..

they belong in prison, or they should be forced to perform the work the way they had their employees perform the work for a period of 5 years...

take away from them what they took away from those that worked for them...


49 posted on 03/30/2014 12:49:23 PM PDT by joe fonebone (a socialist is just a juvenile communist)
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To: joe fonebone
Limited Facts in Evidence.

(Most Freepers seem to be Seasoned Citizenz....)

50 posted on 03/30/2014 12:56:42 PM PDT by Paladin2
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