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Federal agreement is only way to reach Ukraine settlement Lavrov (Russia lays out terms to Obama)
Voice of Russia ^ | 3/30/14 | Voice of Russia

Posted on 03/30/2014 9:52:09 AM PDT by jimbo123

Russia believes that the only way for Ukraine to reach a settlement is to sign a federal agreement, said Russian Foreign Minister, Sergei Lavrov, in an interview with the anchor of the 'Saturday News with Sergei Brilev' TV programme earlier today. "Current developments in Ukraine have resulted from a deep statehood crisis, triggered, among other things, by the inability (I’d hate to think of reluctance) of every successive leader coming to power to reconcile the interests of Ukraine’s western region and Ukraine’s South-East", the Russian Foreign Minister said. "This cannot continue that way anymore".

"We are certain that Ukraine needs profound constitutional reform. In all fairness, we can’t see any other way to ensure the stable development of Ukraine but to sign a federal agreement", Lavrov said.

"Some may know better and are, perhaps, capable of finding some magic spell to ensure living in a unitary state, with people in the West, on the one hand, and the South-East, on the other, celebrating different holidays, honouring different heroes, developing different types of economy, speaking different languages, thinking differently and gravitating towards different European civilised cultures but I think it’s pretty difficult to live in a unitary state like that", Lavrov said.

"We suggested that things be put right in all areas at once, the more so since an obligation to that end was signed by Vitaly Klitshcko, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, Oleg Tyagnibok, and the Foreign Ministers of Germany, France and Poland. We further suggested that a constitutional reform be launched at once, one that would prove comprehensive and involve every single political force and region, with equal voting rights. We suggested that they start negotiating a federation that would grant each region sweeping powers in the fields of economy, finance, culture, language, and education, as well as external economic and cultural

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Russia lays out Ukraine federalization terms to Obama/Kerry after 100,000 Russian troops are in now fully place in Russia, Belarus and Moldova and supply lines have been established.
1 posted on 03/30/2014 9:52:09 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

The important question is: Did Obama pick Wisconsin over Arizona? /sarc


2 posted on 03/30/2014 9:56:07 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: jimbo123

Obama can and will be appeased because he is in so far over his head it will be easy to manipulate him and the western media that will proclaim his slightest achievement as an earth shaking victory. Chamberlain’s folly wasn’t recognized as folly until it was too late.


3 posted on 03/30/2014 10:01:05 AM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: jimbo123

The United States is in decline and Ronald Reagan is not only not President but a extreme socialist / moderate communist is President. This was predictable.

We are probably lucky they aren’t demanding Poland yet. They will get around to it though. They will push, until someone who’s able
pushes back.


4 posted on 03/30/2014 10:03:54 AM PDT by Honcho
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To: jimbo123

Russia’s compromise equals “I win, you lose”. Obama is sure to buy it. When you don’t value freedom in your own country, can you support it elsewhere.

Obama = Globalist + Socialist/Crony Capitalist = Communist

Putin = Ultranationalist + Socialist/Crony Capitalist = Fascist.


5 posted on 03/30/2014 10:17:40 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: jimbo123

Google Ukraine and soros and you may see the real story behind the story. It maybe that putin is the man we shold back.


6 posted on 03/30/2014 10:18:58 AM PDT by amnestynone (Lindsey Graham is a feckless, duplicitous, treacherous, double dealing backstabbing corksucker.)
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To: jimbo123

Four postings this cycle citing Kremlin news resouces all pushing for a “ constitutional solution” for a neighbor (Ukraine) urged from a country which held a phoney plebicite (Russia) annexing one piece of it where they have a naval base and were ignoring treaty agreements. And has the equivalent of 4 armor divisions already on their soverign territory. Being supported and advocated by the usual suspects who should be rounded up and deported.


7 posted on 03/30/2014 10:34:02 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: jimbo123

Russians are a minority in about 95% of Rump Ukraine.


8 posted on 03/30/2014 10:46:51 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: mosesdapoet

Kremlin news resources lay out the official position of Russia and their intentions are very clear. Similar to our own “Kremlin” news resources that lay out the official position of the Obama administration.

And regarding the constitutional changes, what’s wrong with the citizens of the Oblasts electing their own governors instead of having them appointed by Kiev? Do you also support Obama appointing all of the governors for each of our states instead of them being elected by their citizens?


9 posted on 03/30/2014 10:47:35 AM PDT by jimbo123
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Jimbo

You have to realize that there are many on FR, old cold warriors such as myself(though I no longer subscribe), that are opposed to anything that could in any way benefit Russia.

It does not matter how reasonable, fair or decent that thing may be.

10 posted on 03/30/2014 11:02:11 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

My point is that this isn’t our business neither is it NATO’s business. Especially with flunkees like Obama, Kerry, Nelund, Jarrett, Soros running things. It’s between Ukraine, Russia, Poland, Germany and France to work things out.


11 posted on 03/30/2014 11:10:46 AM PDT by jimbo123
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It's between Ukraine, Russia, Poland, Germany, and France to work things out.

Why France? The other ones might want to tweak the borders to their advantage. I'd add to that list Turkey.

I would think it's in the interest of everyone EXCEPT the global manipulators who wanted instability and a takeover of Ukranian assets to solve this mess. Ukraine had over 20 years; it's a failed state, and the thugs who led the coup have nothing positive to offer. (unless someone's in the market for really accurate snipers)

It seems rational that Ukraine be split and the borders realigned after this many years. And, yeah, DUH...a vote is legitimate and a violent coup is not.

12 posted on 03/30/2014 11:23:40 AM PDT by grania
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To: Mariner

What if it benefits all Ukrainians?

More freedom is not about whether Russia stands to gain; its whether it preserves Ukraine as a country.

Unless of course you don’t mind Ukraine being carved up.


13 posted on 03/30/2014 11:31:57 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
"Unless of course you don’t mind Ukraine being carved up."

I cannot perceive a Vital US Interest there.

Maybe there is one, but I can't see it.

I understand the humanitarian interest and I understand the furtherance of Liberty interest. I can even see an interest in preventing Russian from exercising power.

But from my point of view none crosses the threshold to warrant any real, non-military action by the USA.

We should wag our finger a couple of times and get back to drilling/fracking.

14 posted on 03/30/2014 12:06:24 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: jimbo123
My point is that this isn’t our business....It’s between Ukraine, Russia,

Really? How so Russia?

15 posted on 03/30/2014 12:20:23 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: grania
I would think it's in the interest of everyone EXCEPT the global manipulators who wanted instability and a takeover of Ukranian assets to solve this mess. Ukraine had over 20 years; it's a failed state, and the thugs who led the coup have nothing positive to offer. (unless someone's in the market for really accurate snipers) It seems rational that Ukraine be split and the borders realigned after this many years.

Another who doesn't believe in self determination.

16 posted on 03/30/2014 12:21:40 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: amnestynone

Yeah, back Putin if you’re for an autocratic former KGB man who stole $75billion from his own people, supported the communist party instead of Reagan, Solidarity, Thatcher, and the Pope, and whose sole claim to power is that he’s vicious enough suppress anyone else in Russia who’d aspire to serve the Russian people. Putin’s a scumbag.


17 posted on 03/30/2014 12:23:54 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: FreeReign

I believe in the ballot box. That isn’t self-determination?


18 posted on 03/30/2014 12:25:29 PM PDT by grania
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To: grania
I believe in the ballot box. That isn’t self-determination?

You just said that Ukraine should be split.


19 posted on 03/30/2014 12:33:12 PM PDT by FreeReign
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