Posted on 03/30/2014 11:24:18 AM PDT by Morgana
I'm pissed right now and don't mind saying so.
This kind of thing has been typical of ‘Rat candidates for as long as I can remember.
Pose as “moderates” or even conservatives while running for office — but show their true pink once in office.
And of course with the power of pork (and without term limits), ‘Rat incumbents are likely to remain in office for a LONG time.
When dig down deep, all Democrats LOOOOOVE killing babies.
When are people gonna learn that there is no such thing as a pro-life Democrat?
I also think of Manchin. He's a dem, yes, but some of his votes don't seem to reflect the interests of WV, such as energy issues.
This guy got in, so did Manchin. W Va Democrats are good at lying to sound conservative when they are getting elected and then governing like Democrats. When are the West Virginia voters going to wake up to this?
OTOH - we have to keep murderers alive for twenty years or so but a child can be murdered after 20 weeks or less.
W. Virginia elected a governor who belongs to the leftist death cult party (i.e. the socialist democratic party), and then complain about their governor veto-ing a majority backed law. News flash! The democrats could care less what you peons in W. Virginia think! You are nothing but useful idiots who exist solely to further the party cause, and will be discarded, and in this case aborted, when the party elite are through with you.
Welcome to the club of pissed off Americans. Our ranks are swelling by the day, and will soon reach critical mass.
Well, maybe he is just not “THAT” pro-life, okay? I mean, 20 weeks? Come on! /sarc
We need to change our words. Start saying 5 months instead of 20 weeks. “Would you agree with abortion after 5 months?” Somehow, when the unit is weeks, it’s easier to dismiss as earlier in the pregnancy.
That smarmy New Yorker stuff is highly contagious.
There are no pro-life democrats.
Pursuant to Section 7-14 of the WV Constitution, on non-budgetary bills, a gubernatorial veto may be overridden by a simple majority of members in each house. http://www.legis.state.wv.us/WVCODE/WV_CON.cfm#articleVII
So if the Democrat legislators don’t override that damn veto, we know that the whole thing was a sham to trick voters into thinking that they’re actually pro-life.
Twenty weeks? I note that the doctor's statement was excerpted and I suspect an agenda on the part of the editor.
I just checked with my wife, who is a Masters' Degreed Clinical Nurse Specialist at the Neonatal Intensive Care Unit at a major hospital in Silicon Valley, CA. I don't have a problem with the proposed ban, but facts are facts and we should not be overstating our case. The statement as quoted above is an exaggeration of current NICU capability. As of now, twenty-three weeks is considered the threshold of viability. With very few exceptions, even children born at 23 weeks have life-long problems resulting from the early delivery. Serious lung, hearing, and sight deficits are the most common. They just had a case in which they had to risk the mother's life to get her to 23 weeks. They would not have done that had they any other option.
“I also think of Manchin. He’s a dem, yes, but some of his votes don’t seem to reflect the interests of WV, such as energy issues.”
Not to mention the Senate Gun Bill.
Maybe the Internet hasn’t reached West Virginia yet, and the Dems there CAN STILL campaign on set of issues and then govern exactly opposite?
Anyone know how often states that only require a majority to overrides vetoes, fail to do so? Seems rather pointless to have a veto at all if a super-majority is not required.
In WV, an override takes a majority *of the membership* of each house, so, in theory, a bill may have been passed by a majority of those voting, with abstentions, absences and vacancies not counting against it, but for the override they’d be included in the denominator.
I recall thinking that the WV abortion bill passed by a comfortable margin, so it would take a lot of Democrats changing their votes to have an override fail. Of course, the override would need to be introduced in the hiuse in which the bill originated, and I have no idea what it takes to introduce an override.
Valid point, seems like giving the Governor veto power would be useless if the legislature could override it by simple majority. Still, I’ve read the WV legislature might not override his veto anyway because a few phony “pro-life” RATs might flip-flop when the override measure comes up. Reminds me of Congressman Lipinski voting against Obamacare and campaigning on “I was a principled Dem who stood against Obama” blah blah blah, then voting NO on repealing it.
Also, what constituents “supermajority”? In Illinois, it’s less than the 2/3rds requirement at the federal level, but it still takes 60% of the legislature to override a veto. I’d say that counts as a supermajority (which sadly the Dems now have). Maybe some states have an even greater threshold, like requiring 3/4ths majority to override the Governor.
I remember the 67% override requirement of the U.S. constitution vs. 60% override requirement of the state constitution was an important essay on my H.S. constitution test. (gotta wonder about the freepers who make up their own definition of “republic” to justify their anti-17th amendment talking points that nobody used until a decade ago, and then claiming I flunked my constitution test when I use the correct, universally-accepted definitions of “republic” and “democracy”. I have to assume they took their “constitution test” in communist China because they have the talking points used by the communists to justify Tiananmen Square down pat (”Democracy=MOB RULE!!! Most EVIL form of government EVER to exist! MUST be crushed!!”)
Easy answer, same old one: NEVER!
“what constituents “supermajority””
Well, any threshold over 50%+1. I think every states leg (that uses supermajorities) uses either 2/3s or 3/5s. 3/4s of states required to ratify amendments is the only use of 3/4s that I’m aware of.
In addition to veto overrides I know IL requires 3/5s to ratify any federal amendment.
Remember the Cook County Board used to require a four fifths(!) majority to override the President’s veto, the only county in the state with such a ridiculously high threshold! Stroger used the veto to great effect until the state leg passed legislation in 2009 lowering the threshold to 3/5s.
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